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juliaoceania -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:27:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: topcat

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl
That's why I'm surprised TopCat was so mean. Straight male doms normally don't like to think about two men getting it on.

Mean? Don't mistake my grandmotherly kindness for an attack. And don't be so quick to brand every straight male dom with your parochial homophobic worldveiw.


You know I have never been with a gay or bi man to my knowledge, but I have had this rule since I first started dating... I do not date homophobes. I think that if what other people do with their genitalia is so threatening to the man in my life that it emotionally disturbs him, that means he may be leaning that way himself and in denial about it.

The fact is a man that is secure in his sexuality is not going to care what other people do with theirs




AquaticSub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:28:56 PM)

Amen




porthuronsub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:31:00 PM)

I think your first concern should be if they are disease free regardless of who they slept with.  In your vanilla life did you always want to know about every woman your boyfriends slept with?  Are you one of those women that have to know the others complete sexual history?  If not, and it is in the guys past what does it matter to you.
I assume that you must think crossdressers are gay too.  After all they were women's clothing.




gooddogbenji -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:33:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I just think potential partners have a right to know if someone has engaged in bisexual acts before sleeping with them.


Rights are a funny thing, because they have two very important factors involved:  Who grants them and who is willing to defend them.

For example, the reason human rights are often abused is because no one is willing to defend a poor Chinese "criminal" from the Chinese prison system, mostly because that would involve WWIII starting.

So, in this case, you are granting this right to people the world over.  And who is willing to defend it?





Wow.  That much support, eh?

Don't get me wrong, I agree that people should know a potential partner's history, but to say it should be written in the profile is a bit much, no?

I can just picture the profiles now....

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  December, 1996 - Jenny Peters, 19, blonde, blue eyes, size 2, great ass.  Decent sex.
January, 1997 - Alicia Jones, 21, brunette, brown eyes, size 1, huge tits.  Almost fell asleep.
January, 1997 - Kate Goodman, 18, redhead, green eyes, size 2, slim.  Shook me all night long.


Yours,


benji




juliaoceania -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:34:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

I think your first concern should be if they are disease free regardless of who they slept with.  In your vanilla life did you always want to know about every woman your boyfriends slept with?  Are you one of those women that have to know the others complete sexual history?  If not, and it is in the guys past what does it matter to you.
I assume that you must think crossdressers are gay too.  After all they were women's clothing.


My first concern is if my Dom shared my values (including accepting people regardless of orientation), he does share my values.

I am not concerned about what he may have done in the past with anyone. We are both disease free and celibate for 6 months prior to testing... that was all that concerned me.




porthuronsub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:37:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: porthuronsub

I think your first concern should be if they are disease free regardless of who they slept with.  In your vanilla life did you always want to know about every woman your boyfriends slept with?  Are you one of those women that have to know the others complete sexual history?  If not, and it is in the guys past what does it matter to you.
I assume that you must think crossdressers are gay too.  After all they were women's clothing.


My first concern is if my Dom shared my values (including accepting people regardless of orientation), he does share my values.

I am not concerned about what he may have done in the past with anyone. We are both disease free and celibate for 6 months prior to testing... that was all that concerned me.


Mine as well.  But it doesn't seem to be hers.  She seems to be locked on their sexual orientation.




juliaoceania -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:38:59 PM)

Well my experience in life, we get that on which we focus. Take the guy who fears his mate will cheat on him, he is always getting the gal who cheats.. self fulfilling prophecy




bandit25 -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:39:16 PM)

I was thinking the same thing.  I guess if someone's sexual orientation squicks you, then don't fuck the guy.  Sounds pretty simple to me.  Wasn't directed to you, porthuronsub.

How about that?  Seems as tho I'm pretty black and white too!~  LOL!




porthuronsub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:44:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I was thinking the same thing.  I guess if someone's sexual orientation squicks you, then don't fuck the guy.  Sounds pretty simple to me.  Wasn't directed to you, porthuronsub.

How about that?  Seems as tho I'm pretty black and white too!~  LOL!


In a more sensical kinda way




bandit25 -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 4:56:51 PM)

I think a lot of the people on this thread have given you some pretty good advice, dbg.  You simply don't seem ready for any type of D/s relationship...maybe not any type at all.  I'm not being mean, you just have so many limits....hard limits at that.  I agree with cjenny...try and find a vanilla man and introduce some kink to the relationship gradually. 




AquaticSub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:21:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think a lot of the people on this thread have given you some pretty good advice, dbg.  You simply don't seem ready for any type of D/s relationship...maybe not any type at all.  I'm not being mean, you just have so many limits....hard limits at that.  I agree with cjenny...try and find a vanilla man and introduce some kink to the relationship gradually. 


I think this may be the best advice she's gotten. Let's hope she gives it a listen.




FelinePersuasion -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:30:41 PM)

that's her problem them.
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

What happens if she finds this out 2 years into the relationship and is totally grossed out by it?




Valyraen -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:32:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think a lot of the people on this thread have given you some pretty good advice, dbg.  You simply don't seem ready for any type of D/s relationship...maybe not any type at all.  I'm not being mean, you just have so many limits....hard limits at that.  I agree with cjenny...try and find a vanilla man and introduce some kink to the relationship gradually. 


I really can't stress how strongly I agree with this. As a straight male who's never had anything approaching a bisexual experience, dbg, you're quite possibly the last person on this planet I'd consider entering a relationship with, simply from the attitudes you've expressed in this post. TopCat wasn't being mean... he was just being honest. Honey, you've got more issues than a borderline-bipolar, ADHD, possibly-recovering anorexic ex-girlfriend of mine, and the list of what was wrong with her headspace was long enough to bungee jump with. The worst part about it is that you're unwilling to acknowledge even the possibility of these issues, let alone work on them. Aqua's got issues (she'll be the first person to admit that), but she's at least willing to acknowledge them and try to minimize their effects.




spankmepink11 -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:33:04 PM)

There's nothing i can  add here that hasn't already been said...over....and over....and over...

I just wanted to give a shout out to the guy from Port Huron...( I grew up in Marine City!)       [sm=hello.gif]




FukinTroll -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:33:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji


I can just picture the profiles now....

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  December, 1996 - Jenny Peters, 19, blonde, blue eyes, size 2, great ass.  Decent sex.
January, 1997 - Alicia Jones, 21, brunette, brown eyes, size 1, huge tits.  Almost fell asleep.
January, 1997 - Kate Goodman, 18, redhead, green eyes, size 2, slim.  Shook me all night long.


Yours,


benji


Tried that. They said something about a bandwidth problem.




Valyraen -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:34:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

I think a lot of the people on this thread have given you some pretty good advice, dbg.  You simply don't seem ready for any type of D/s relationship...maybe not any type at all.  I'm not being mean, you just have so many limits....hard limits at that.  I agree with cjenny...try and find a vanilla man and introduce some kink to the relationship gradually. 


I think this may be the best advice she's gotten. Let's hope she gives it a listen.


Anyone want to hold their breath until that happens? I'll have paramedics standing by...




KatyLied -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:35:44 PM)

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I think that if what other people do with their genitalia is so threatening to the man in my life that it emotionally disturbs him, that means he may be leaning that way himself and in denial about it.


Amen, goes for chicks too.  Anyone who repeatedly throws down the "doth protest too much" card, well don't be surprised if some may find you self-loathing and a bit latent in what you profess to hate.




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:36:19 PM)

all i can say is that, any male that does it (or wants to be "forced" to do it) ARE bisexual. it's us straight guys that would fight tooth and nail to prevent such things from happening.




happypervert -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:37:22 PM)

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.try and find a vanilla man and introduce some kink to the relationship gradually.

I don't think this is a good idea -- she appears to have a serious sadistic streak considering the way she always tortures us by trying to cram her dimwitted ideas down our throats. I think she could put her , um . . . "talents" to work as a pro domina specializing in mind fucks.




AquaticSub -> RE: honesty about sexual orientation (2/19/2007 5:39:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

all i can say is that, any male that does it (or wants to be "forced" to do it) ARE bisexual. it's us straight guys that would fight tooth and nail to prevent such things from happening.


You two really should get together. I mean, clearly no one ever does anything they genuinely don't want to do to please their owner. Clearly.

I guess this means the straights are right. The subs really are in control according to you and bad girl.




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