Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Childhood accidents cause fetishism?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> Childhood accidents cause fetishism? Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 3:29:36 AM   
MsCfromMelbourne


Posts: 777
Joined: 2/15/2007
Status: offline 		Psychiatric research claims there is a correlation between being a fetishist and having a body part (usually a finger) cut off or nearly cut off as a small child.

One paper says fetishism can also be traced to witnessing a mutiliating event or having a bloody operation as a kid, but the more common explanation is a bleeding injury.

I got terrible burns to my arm when I was 6.  Has anyone else here had a horrible accident as a kid, probably to your hand?

And ......if you never had a nasty accident, how come you are still a sick f*ck???!!


< Message edited by MsCfromMelbourne -- 2/25/2007 3:32:34 AM >
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 4:12:30 AM   
eyesopened


Posts: 2798
Joined: 6/12/2006
From: Tampa, FL
Status: offline 		WTF???  To what kinds of fetish does this "research" refer?  Other than after childbirth i have never had a stitch. i have never had a broken bone or had any other major accident during my childhood or after, certainly not a bleeding injury nor have i ever witnessed one.  i would question the validity of the research.

_____________________________

Proudly owned by InkedMaster. He is the one i obey, serve, honor and love.

No one is honored for what they've received. Honor is the reward for what has been given.

(in reply to MsCfromMelbourne)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 4:16:48 AM   
MsCfromMelbourne


Posts: 777
Joined: 2/15/2007
Status: offline 		So you are female with a fetish?  That's really unusual.  The subjects were all male.

(in reply to eyesopened)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 4:18:57 AM   
Jasmyn


Posts: 1234
Joined: 2/6/2004
From: New Zealand
Status: offline 		MsC ... interesting theory .. .do you have a link to the research?

_____________________________

quote:

"To learn the art of submission a slave must first give up the desires that drew him to submission in the first place." Mistress Jasmyn Jan 2005.


Visit My Website


(in reply to MsCfromMelbourne)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 4:25:29 AM   
bastardandthewen


Posts: 40
Joined: 11/3/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MsCfromMelbourne

So you are female with a fetish?  That's really unusual.  The subjects were all male.


If you are implying that this unnammed "research" deals only with men; why bother mentioning your own past experience?

(in reply to MsCfromMelbourne)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 4:29:09 AM   
Termyn8or


Posts: 18681
Joined: 11/12/2005
Status: offline 		Well, when I was about five I up and grabbed something hot out of the oven and had a huge blister on my hand. I don't really know if that caused it, but I am kinkier than a four foot garden hose with 45 knots in it.

I do believe that something in early childhood causes people to be kinky, but I am not so sure it has to involve trauma. I have postulated before, look at what we do to kids, strap them down in chairs (carseats), put them in cages (cribs, playpens), diapers (somewhat like a chastity belt).

Perhaps some kinksters are just trying to recreate an earlier time in life, one without responsbility, one without control over one's own actions.

???

T

(in reply to Jasmyn)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 4:53:58 AM   
eyesopened


Posts: 2798
Joined: 6/12/2006
From: Tampa, FL
Status: offline 		i'm sorry, nothing in your original post said anything about the subjects being only male.  Are you suggesting only males have fetishes?  Do i need more coffee?

_____________________________

Proudly owned by InkedMaster. He is the one i obey, serve, honor and love.

No one is honored for what they've received. Honor is the reward for what has been given.

(in reply to MsCfromMelbourne)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 5:08:24 AM   
OnyxGoddess


Posts: 242
Joined: 4/18/2005
Status: offline 		Hmmm....as a trained Psychology researcher I'd have to say "show me the study."  I don't feel that fetishes are derived from some childhood trauma.  I feel fetish arises out of curiousity that we have even as children.  We explore our curiousity and it we like it and it gives us pleasure we repeat the event.  Interesting the study subjects were all male.  Leads me to believe this is just another piece of "research" to explain away the doings of men and make it ok. 

(in reply to eyesopened)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 5:11:15 AM   
subnstudent


Posts: 105
Joined: 9/18/2006
Status: offline 		There might be some merit to this... I heard something about 'exotic becomes erotic'... can't remember for the life of me where, but this theory's been out there for a while.

(in reply to eyesopened)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 5:30:48 AM   
Jasmyn


Posts: 1234
Joined: 2/6/2004
From: New Zealand
Status: offline
quote:

Are you suggesting only males have fetishes? 
 
Fetishism in women is a rarity, not unheard of, but rare in comparison to men.  Keeping in mind, strictly speaking, fetishism is considered an inanimate object or body part the fetisher focuses on and/or requires to be sexually aroused or sexually fullfilled.

< Message edited by Jasmyn -- 2/25/2007 5:31:34 AM >

_____________________________

quote:

"To learn the art of submission a slave must first give up the desires that drew him to submission in the first place." Mistress Jasmyn Jan 2005.


Visit My Website


(in reply to eyesopened)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 5:46:20 AM   
Driver1961


Posts: 459
Joined: 9/8/2005
Status: offline 		He dips His lid to all;

Well in my short experience as a Lifestyle Dom I have encountered (r/t) 6 subs that declare childhood trauma (giving details) as being their key to being subs and at least 3 others who described very clear sub type experiences as under sixers.

Just because there is no known clear statistics on this, does not negate (in my view) what appears to be a common link to subs and most prob Dom/mes.  

Hey we all have psychological problems- it is we who make them a problem.

Warm regards to all.  Driver. 

_____________________________

Dance as though nobody is watching!

(in reply to Jasmyn)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 5:48:43 AM   
eyesopened


Posts: 2798
Joined: 6/12/2006
From: Tampa, FL
Status: offline 		Thank you for clarifying.  The OP confused me with relating her own experience, and asking why someone is "as sick fuck"  and while i don't fixate upon a specific object or body part i do fixate on bondage for arousal.  i don't know if that classifies as fetish or not.  By your clarification i guess it doesn't but i'm still confused since the original post didn't say this research was limited to male subjects.  i plead stupid.  sorry.

_____________________________

Proudly owned by InkedMaster. He is the one i obey, serve, honor and love.

No one is honored for what they've received. Honor is the reward for what has been given.

(in reply to Jasmyn)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 8:47:36 AM   
Padriag


Posts: 2633
Joined: 3/30/2005
Status: offline 		I don't know to what "research" you refer but it sounds highly dubious.  While various childhood experiences (which need not be traumas) can, and do, sometimes result in fetishes and other behaviors; it cannot be reduced into such bizarre over-simplifications as "having a body part cut off results in the development of X fetish."  Whatever you read is likely the ramblings of some fringe pseudo-science.

The development of behaviors in individuals is the result of highly individualized experiences.  What makes the results of these unique is that for each individual not only do the experiences differ, but just as importantly so do the combinations of experiences and the perception of these experiences.  Because of this, it is just not possible to state that X experience always results in Y behavior, behaviorism is more complex than that.

Thus while one person might have a fetish about blonds because their mother was blond, another with a blond mother might develop a fetish about brunettes, simply because the combination of various other experiences and the perception of those experiences differed in each individual.  Understanding why each developed as they did requires understanding that history of relevant reinforcers.  So while it is sometimes possible to trace the development of a fetish in a person, doing so generally requires (except in very rare circumstances) the identification of multiple influences / events that resulted in the development of that one behavior (fetish).

_____________________________

Padriag

A stern discipline pervades all nature, which is a little cruel so that it may be very kind - Edmund Spencer

(in reply to MsCfromMelbourne)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 8:55:39 AM   
Amaros


Posts: 1363
Joined: 7/25/2005
Status: offline 		I had my foreskin amputated as a baby, does that count? 

(in reply to Padriag)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 8:57:40 AM   
toservez


Posts: 1733
Joined: 9/7/2006
From: All over now in Minnesota
Status: offline 		I am guessing it was one of those studies that took a conclusion and worked backwards. The old if you are not like everyone else you must have gotten screwed up.

Do I think that people who had bad things happen as a child might have a higher chance to live a life like ours then people with “normal” childhoods, yes, but not because it made them into it but because they have either grown comfortable in their own skin or accepted, happy or not, that they feel different and therefore in a way feel more free to pursue these feelings and drives. In other words they are not as tied down to society’s expectations.

Studies like this always have many problems and for me the biggest one is trying to quantify what trauma is and not factoring in how many who live society’s “normal life” also had these traumas.


_____________________________

I am sorry I do not fit Webster's defintion of a slave but thankfully my Master is not Webster.

"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned." - H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama

(in reply to eyesopened)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 8:59:45 AM   
szobras


Posts: 435
Joined: 9/18/2006
Status: offline 		Now that you mention it.I do remember getting a real "kink" in my neck when I was around 12.

(in reply to toservez)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 9:13:08 AM   
domiguy


Posts: 12952
Joined: 5/2/2006
Status: offline 		When scouting out the vanilla world there  are things that you keep an eye out for...Piercings...lots of tats...and someone who works in the field of helping others....That is where you will find your precious twisted sistahs....As to the cause of kinks obviously any form of abuse when young will take its toll on the psyche...Don't personally see much of a relationship to a hand injury and relating that to an acquired fetish...Unless the fetish was always similiar.

All I know is when I was a Domiboy I put my hand in the disposal....From the point on I knew that all women would pay for my mistake!!!!  Muuuhahahahahaha!!!

_____________________________



(in reply to szobras)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 9:14:47 AM   
azzmaster


Posts: 864
Joined: 2/15/2007
Status: offline 		early life is the time we get alot of imprinting, sexual and otherwise. i know alot of women i have had that get off on gettin beaten severely or need to b choked to get off had very abusive childhoods. whatever i think happened that u get ur 1st sexual excitements from triggers future excitements. i can see similar things in my own kinks tho i won't get specific on the forum

(in reply to szobras)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 9:38:03 AM   
PeterJay


Posts: 1220
Joined: 9/24/2006
Status: offline
I'm not sure if this is the answer you are looking for; but when I was 16 months old I shartted my tibia bone taking my baby steps. Between 16 months & 16 years old I had nine major surgeries to see if the doctors could make a "new" bone by using hip & rib bone, but nothing ever worked. So I decided to have my right leg amutated 7" below the knee. I have no idea what it is to walk on my own two legs because I was always in a brace or a cast. So this was not a loss to me at all. It was a gain and the biggest and best move I ever made. But I do not believe this is the reason that I am a sub. I believe that I would be a sub no matter what my childhood was like. I am a giver & I like to see other people are taken care of before my own needs, in both vanilla & Ds. I hope this helps.

_____________________________

People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death. At the point of death, the pain is over. J. Morrison

(in reply to azzmaster)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: Childhood accidents cause fetishism? - 2/25/2007 9:58:23 AM   
juliaoceania


Posts: 21383
Joined: 4/19/2006
From: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
Status: offline 		Most children have some terrifying experience or witness something terrible...it is like saying "Anyone that had a pet as a child will develop a fetish"... seems silly to me

_____________________________

Once you label me, you negate me ~ Soren Kierkegaard

Reality has a well known Liberal Bias ~ Stephen Colbert

Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt

(in reply to MsCfromMelbourne)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> Childhood accidents cause fetishism? Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.109