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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:20:44 PM   
azzmaster


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there r some people here i just like and enjoy chattin wit, no sexual intent.

but if someone catches my fancy i c if they r willing to meet at somepoint and make it clear thats what i want. if it starts getting sticky or they seem stuffy or demanding i just move on.... so far so good

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:21:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ScreamerGirl

I don't "search".  I'm open to finding what I want, but I don't actively look for it.

What I want and need will come to me when I'm ready to receive it.



Exactly! Same here...
Ofcourse, like LA, i put myself out there too :-)

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:25:53 PM   
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Fukin Troll: HUGs!!

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:29:26 PM   
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My inner Moron is telling me I may have a shot here.

Can I get a boob shot?

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:30:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

...... and after a week or so I opened up my toy drawer (which was a drawer in my dresser stuffed full of rope, vibrators, candles, cuffs, collars, floggers, etc.) and told him that this is what I really love and that whenever he felt ready he could start using them on me. He got the biggest devil grin on his face and asked me "How many can I use at once?"


i really enjoyed this :-) just adorable!

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:30:09 PM   
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I spell and explain what I want right down the line. I have a good profile with multiple pictures, a blog and a clean and easy to read description.

Though I am searching right now, I have had multiple responses for me. I think as a young dom who isn't gorgeous (though very pretty :) ) that is a good sign.

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:31:20 PM   
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Padriag, it is wonderful to see you posting again.  You have been missed.

edited to add:  waits to see how Susan answers Troll.....cuz im nosy, lol.

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:47:27 PM   
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True story, when I first got here I had never tried anything online before. The attraction was that its a whole lot easier searching in a site with like minded people than it is going up to a strange woman at the grocery store and asking if she wants to get tied up, dominated and beaten with a zucchini. And the time that gets put into blind alleys dating, only to find out that she might be a bit kinky but has no desire to do the things I like to was becoming prohibitive with the idea of having a life.
So the first thing I did was put up a forum post asking how to write up a good profile, what did submissive women look for, what did they not like. I got feedback from people in all areas of BDSM, slaves, submissives, Doms, Dommes, which was very helpful. Sounds simple, but so many seem to think that asking for help makes one less dominant.

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 8:50:06 PM   
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Fukin Troll:  O Charming one, you do cut to the chase! LOL

General comments directed at readers (and only my own, non-expert opinion, to boot): There is a definite connection, I believe, between the "rate of return" and many other things, but probably two of the important things would be IMO:

1) A descriptive, friendly letter honing in on something someone posted about (and why you liked it) or detailing your opinion of something they mentioned or in their profile (if it's diplomatic) and describing yourself in more detail - pick up where your profile left off, or go into what you left out of it and re-iterate what's in it: The high-lights, not every detail - as a first contact.

2) Or, as an alternative, simply e-mail someone you think attracts you, and start a conversation, and refer to your profile, or something they or someone said, and-or refer to their profile. Nothing new here, but I can believe it might be easy to feel like giving up and tossing in the towel, sometimes.

DO NOT mention upfront "why we are a good match for eachother." If you think so, I'd say instead: "I noticed we both like X, how did you get interested in that? I got interested last Summer when I was..." "Being someone's perfect match" is not your sole decision - until you get to know someone a whole lot better, IMO.

This may be nothing new to many here. And all this is the best I can do - for now, as far as advice (but I am thinking hard for better possible solutions, and will get back here, if anything really interesting or novel, plus workable, springs to mind).

**The "rules of engagement" as far as connecting with someone, IMO, are not very different from the so-called "vanilla world" until you are much more into an actual, face-to-face (most likely, if you are seeking real-time) or a heavy phone contact, relationship. Everyone is different. This is just how I view things, btw.

**If you want to discuss that stuff, or start w/the heavier D/s "role-play" and treating someone as if they were your submissive (or feel like they should be "acting more Dominant) - sure you could toy with that a little, BUT - I'd certainly wait a few e-mails at least, and even then I'd not be heavy-handed with it - at all. Just my opinion.

**As an initial contact - have a real conversation (w/more than two sentences as your "starter"), at least a few paragraphs, I'd say, if not more.)

**Yes, I definitely agree w/Padriag - do not try to be something you are not - I get the impression, sometimes, that because they are now considering themselves to be a "Dominant/ Domme" or a "submissive/slave" that people some folks have forgotten they are first and foremost - a person. I never was as much interested in someone's role-playing ability as their ability to be human.

Sure there is a mystique, and fascination, and fulfullment associated w/bdsm and D/s (or I wouldn't be here, or have ever had, or sought out, a D/s relationship or bdsm experiences). Personal quirk: Leather can be nice, and look great, too. IMO, a person w/an enlarged capacity to act like a truly human person, shining through the bdsm "gear", and sometimes posturing, who can act "real", is nicer still.

Just my two cents. And I am no expert (not by a long shot, Just have a few opinions. Take whatever works for you from the above). Good luck to all.  

Kana: IMO asking for advice when one can use it is anything but "un-Domly" To me it means someone actually realizes when they might need some help. Which translates (to me) into someone who is in touch w/realistic asessment of their own situation and needs. An adult. That is a good thing, always, IMO.   

- Susan 

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 9:23:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Fukin Troll:  O Charming one, you do cut to the chase! LOL



Aw Susan, I thought I had you flabbergasted on that one. Guess I must work harder.

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 9:31:34 PM   
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Fukin Troll:
Uh oh. I appear to have unleashed the "Troll Within" !!

No matter what anyone says - I am not responsible for the fall-out.

- Susan 

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 9:45:54 PM   
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Now the inner Moron is screaming that I have a chance.

Send me a boob pic!

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 9:51:52 PM   
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Oops. Did not realize I had completely repeated a whole part of a post, Sorry. My PC timed out and the I tried to move the pos, and now it's too late. I hate it when my PC times out when I am writing something! Please ignore this last large post from me - it's repetitive (but not on purpose). Sorry.

- Susan

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 9:54:30 PM   
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Seems you will say just about anything to avoid flashing those headlights.

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 10:10:46 PM   
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I am trying the "Post a small picture and say nothing about myself on my profile"

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 10:24:41 PM   
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It just occurred to me that, whenever I got to know someone in an on-line venue, it seemed to work much better if it was me having the opportunity to answer a question, as in the example mentioned above.

For instance, someone writes and says: "I noticed you like to sing, and also like art. When did you start singing? I sing, too - I started because I had a crazed, quasi-stage mother as a child, but it pushed me into something I realized i really eenjoyed, once I got to discover how to do it "my way"". Or something along that line. Tossing in a joke here (if you can thnk of one that might work, that isn't offensive) would be great.
Humor works (trust me).

Just keep doing that kind of small, non-threatenign e-mail (maybe a but longer, noting a few things you appear to have in common, over and over again. Heck you could get 3-20 smaller, no-pressure e-mails to one person, just by reading their profile or noting things they posted on-line this way. The no-pressure part is important, IMO. Because  -

I don't know anyone who doesn't appreciate when it's obvious someone has put a lot of time and effort into an e-mail introdcution (if they don't they are just not an appreciative person in general, IMO).

On the other hand - I've at times received the impression that from someone thinks they've made a colassal effort (na d maybe actually has), as far as a comprehensive, knock-out introduction letter - that they therefore expect a "yes" or "no" - and kind of a "I want things all wrapped up, I've done a terrific job here, and you should be impressed, so -let's move on right now, this minute" kind of vibe from a few of these exchanges, too. And I am not dissing them. At all. I am impressed by people whe they take the time for that (usually). 

BUT - If someone is going to be really incensed if they do put a huge amount of work into an introduction letter unless they get a very concrete, definitive answer as far as whether the submssive's response is: "Let's move on from here right now and take this to the next-level", then IMO - it can still possibly make the other person (sub person) feel rushed (despite the fact it's a good, or even great, letter).

*There needs to be, whether someone is Dominant or not, some room for the submssive to feel she is making an initial choice. I wish I could say this louder, but I cannot. Especially since it really is perhaps the "last choice" she'll make, should she decide she wants to take things further as well.

Why not, instead (even if you have and have sent) a knock-out intro letter - take the pressure off both of you, and just kid around with small, non-threatening, conversational, short e-mails for awhile? Get to know them, and seem inviting by appearing non-threatening and like a freind, not like an uber-Dom? Trust and relationships can really, truly grow this way, I think, into more and more quickly (because trust can be developed faster sometimes, IMO).  

This is what I refer to as the "good friend" approach. And it works (On me anyway. I already have a partner, But, my pount is - I also thnk it can work, and probably does work, for many others, too).

Why does it? It's friendly. It's non-threastening. It leaves room for growth and choice - it doesn't make anyone feel smothered at the out-set (there is plenty of time for that kind of thing later, LOL).

But, I am a Pisces, and also maybe a little eccentric (wink). But I also think I may be a lot on-target in my gut reactions to these situations, too.

- Susan


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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 10:28:52 PM   
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Fukin Troll: You manipulative bastard (yes, that was tongue-in-cheek. Please don't be offended) HUG. 

Sleepy Beast: Your sig line is too funny (great). My voices-in-my-head fight with eachother and nit-pick, all the time, he.

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 10:31:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Fukin Troll: You manipulative bastard  HUG. 



Damn it woman!! You cant use all that erotic talk and not send a boob pic. WTF is wrong with you?

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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 10:35:09 PM   
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P.S. Sorry about the typos in the above posts. I am a really bad typist, and have to correct almost everything I write. Right now, the system isn't letting me Edit, for some reason.


Fukin Troll: I really was kidding in case, you had any doubt. But still can't flash the head-lights. You're AWOL. he.

- Susan


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RE: Search strategies... - 2/28/2007 10:42:32 PM   
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OMG - H'es NOT AWOL (What -to-do, what -to-do. Bites nails, screams the "silent scream." Voices in head are saying: Think fast, baby). C'mon - ya' know I luv you too!

Ok OK - Noon tommorow there will be: The head-lights and "tool" (get it use your imagination) duel, right here - men and women. Hey who's gonna be here! If you're not with me, you're agin' me. Gals and Guys. May the best tool and-or head-light win. Rest up. And bring your pop-corn and Fritos and beer and snacky stuff. But - we do have to have more volunteers to get this show un-veiled, so to speak.

SO -Who esle wants to sign up?
I can't do this alone - please don't make me be alone...
Ladies?
Gentlemen?

- Susan 


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