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daddysprop247 -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 10:31:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

Black snake moan is as much of a BDSM movie as a story about a redneck beating his wife.

But it was way hot!

Shylah




actually that is why i love those sunday afternoon lifetime movies so much, you know where it's always some woman being beat up by her husband? consensual or non, i love seeing examples of a D/s power dynamic and "traditional" relationship style. of course it always ticks me off in the end when she is finally able to leave him or worse, kills him. i try to stop watching before it gets to that point lol.




simplewhispers -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 10:33:29 AM)

movie looks really good , I wanna see it myself




CassandraAlexis -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 12:07:46 PM)

A Dom friend of mine saw it last night , the IM I got as soon as he walked in the door was "You should go see BlackSnake Moan", just a few seconds later I got "No, you MUST go see it" ...... guess that means he thought it was pretty good.




ExSteelAgain -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 12:42:47 PM)

We discussed it on CM before. No, it isn't a BDSM movie. It is about keeping someone chained for her own good and never touching her sexually or in a BDSM context. Catchy title and all is cool though.




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 12:48:34 PM)

it looks like another stupid movie




AquaticSub -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 1:39:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

Black snake moan is as much of a BDSM movie as a story about a redneck beating his wife.

But it was way hot!

Shylah




actually that is why i love those sunday afternoon lifetime movies so much, you know where it's always some woman being beat up by her husband? consensual or non, i love seeing examples of a D/s power dynamic and "traditional" relationship style. of course it always ticks me off in the end when she is finally able to leave him or worse, kills him. i try to stop watching before it gets to that point lol.


Yeah but in those movies he generally starts beating on the kids... or raping his daughter. Always a good time.




azzmaster -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 1:42:34 PM)

i must say the poster gives me inspiration for a roleplay....




MsOpal -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 2:02:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

actually that is why i love those sunday afternoon lifetime movies so much, you know where it's always some woman being beat up by her husband? consensual or non, i love seeing examples of a D/s power dynamic and "traditional" relationship style. of course it always ticks me off in the end when she is finally able to leave him or worse, kills him. i try to stop watching before it gets to that point lol.


wow, so a woman whose husband  non consentualy beats her and rapes her repeatedly is an example of a Ds power dynamic and traditional relationship style?  Damn, where was this sage advice when I struggled for 7 years to understand why my husbands main stress outlet and sexual activity was to beat me senseless, drag my unconsous body around the house and rape me until I bled?  Oh, and he was so brave and domly that when I finally realized my kids were going to soon be in danger as well and I stood up to him and told him to get his ass out of my house that he turned around with his limp tial between his legs and ran half way across the USA to go back home to his mommy.  Yeah, great example of D/s and traditional relationahip.  I'm sorry, reading that just hit a button here.
MsOpal who thinks D/s is based on consensuality
~Surrender without Fear~
~Power without Guilt~
~Love without Doubt~






daddysprop247 -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/4/2007 3:56:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsOpal


wow, so a woman whose husband  non consentualy beats her and rapes her repeatedly is an example of a Ds power dynamic and traditional relationship style?  Damn, where was this sage advice when I struggled for 7 years to understand why my husbands main stress outlet and sexual activity was to beat me senseless, drag my unconsous body around the house and rape me until I bled?  Oh, and he was so brave and domly that when I finally realized my kids were going to soon be in danger as well and I stood up to him and told him to get his ass out of my house that he turned around with his limp tial between his legs and ran half way across the USA to go back home to his mommy.  Yeah, great example of D/s and traditional relationahip.  I'm sorry, reading that just hit a button here.
MsOpal who thinks D/s is based on consensuality
~Surrender without Fear~
~Power without Guilt~
~Love without Doubt~






MsOpal, i sympathize with you and what you had to go through with your ex. however we likely just have a different idea of just what "D/s" means. a D/s dynamic to me is not about consent, not about bdsm, not about any definitions posted on castlerealm.com or the like, but simply just a relationship between a Dominant personality and a submissive personality. one who controls or leads, and one who serves or obeys.

when i say "traditional" i'm referring to relationship models that used to be commonplace where the male was the HOH, and the female was expected to submit to his will in all things. tho certainly not for everyone or even many, it is the relationship model i have always admired and seen as natural and right. and yes i take pleasure in seeing fictional portrayals of abusive M/f D/s (by my definition) relationships because they come far closer to describing my reality and the qualities i find appropriate in a committed relationship than anything else the mainstream provides.




m1top -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/5/2007 11:49:16 PM)

I must agree that trailer does get the mind going,LOL, But the movie appears far from BDSM. Though I do plan on seeing it as I enjoy the listening to the blues.




themischievous1 -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 5:36:10 AM)

 
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and yes i take pleasure in seeing fictional portrayals of abusive M/f D/s (by my definition) relationships because they come far closer to describing my reality and the qualities i find appropriate in a committed relationship than anything else the mainstream provides.


That's all well and fine and certainly each to his or her own, prop, but there is one thing that is a possible explanation for what you find pleasure in. If we grow up with a dynamic of abuse being modeled for us or we are in any way exposed to abusive relationships during formative years (what's formative may be up for debate, btw) then abuse can actually feel familiar and "right." Something non-abusive would feel alien and inappropriate. Something "healthy" and perhaps more mainstream would not tap into an unconscious desire to return to what is known and comfortable, no matter how dysfunctional what is known is. 

The above theory may or may not apply to your particular life situation but I do think it's important to state the theory because so-called "traditional relationships" do not have to be dysfunctional or abusive in order to qualify as what might be considered traditional domestic discipline, head of the household models of a relationship.




Dnomyar -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 7:04:56 AM)

Cure a woman of a sex addiction. Are you nuts. Mmmmm wait. Send them my way I can cure them. lmao




BeingChewsie -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 7:19:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

Black snake moan is as much of a BDSM movie as a story about a redneck beating his wife.

But it was way hot!

Shylah




actually that is why i love those sunday afternoon lifetime movies so much, you know where it's always some woman being beat up by her husband? consensual or non, i love seeing examples of a D/s power dynamic and "traditional" relationship style. of course it always ticks me off in the end when she is finally able to leave him or worse, kills him. i try to stop watching before it gets to that point lol.



LOL! OK I admit it I think that stuff is pretty hot too. I love the movie ENOUGH with Jennifer Lopez because of that, not when she leaves and kills him but the scene in the kitchen where he slaps her around and explains to her that its his money, his rules, and how today wasn't a very good day for but tomorrow will be a better day because she understands the rules...oh ya sick..but hot.




lonlyrossInNeed -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 10:31:17 AM)

this was the most exspensive movie i ever saw in totaly
8.75 for the movie .
4.00 for the bottle of watter .
7 dollars for gas
and 107 dollars for speeding tiket to get there plus 80 for court costs LMAO

it was alright for that amount i think LOL

ross.g




daddysprop247 -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 10:31:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: themischievous1


That's all well and fine and certainly each to his or her own, prop, but there is one thing that is a possible explanation for what you find pleasure in. If we grow up with a dynamic of abuse being modeled for us or we are in any way exposed to abusive relationships during formative years (what's formative may be up for debate, btw) then abuse can actually feel familiar and "right." Something non-abusive would feel alien and inappropriate. Something "healthy" and perhaps more mainstream would not tap into an unconscious desire to return to what is known and comfortable, no matter how dysfunctional what is known is. 

The above theory may or may not apply to your particular life situation but I do think it's important to state the theory because so-called "traditional relationships" do not have to be dysfunctional or abusive in order to qualify as what might be considered traditional domestic discipline, head of the household models of a relationship.


no of course not, however what appeals and has always felt right to me personally are those "abusive", "dysfunctional" (tho i wouldn't agree with that description) types of traditional relationships. also when i say traditional, i'm not talking ward and june cleaver, but something much more harsh, gritty, primal....think old-fashioned orthodox islamic or even christian marriages. where a woman's choices are nil, and a man has absolute dominion over her.

as for gravitating to such relationships due to early exposure to such as a UM, that could very well apply to some but not to me, as i actually grew up in a very "modern" household with an independent, career-minded, hear-me-roar Oprah-esque mother, and an unhappy, defeated father. it was my mother's dream that i grow up to be a ball-busting feminist just like herself, and it was (partially) seeing her relationship with my father that showed me just how very wrong and unnatural such a philosophy was.




daddysprop247 -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 10:34:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

quote:

ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl

Black snake moan is as much of a BDSM movie as a story about a redneck beating his wife.

But it was way hot!

Shylah




actually that is why i love those sunday afternoon lifetime movies so much, you know where it's always some woman being beat up by her husband? consensual or non, i love seeing examples of a D/s power dynamic and "traditional" relationship style. of course it always ticks me off in the end when she is finally able to leave him or worse, kills him. i try to stop watching before it gets to that point lol.



LOL! OK I admit it I think that stuff is pretty hot too. I love the movie ENOUGH with Jennifer Lopez because of that, not when she leaves and kills him but the scene in the kitchen where he slaps her around and explains to her that its his money, his rules, and how today wasn't a very good day for but tomorrow will be a better day because she understands the rules...oh ya sick..but hot.



omg!! i love that movie and especially that scene as well. and also that scene where she's like "you can't do this! you can't hit me" and he's like "oh really?" and punches her hard in the face, sending her sprawling, lol. that scene is simultaneously funny and hot to me.




Dnomyar -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 10:37:01 AM)

Ross didnt they have a water fountain to drink out of for free.




Master96 -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 11:26:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Evanesce

Black Snake Moan is not about BDSM. It's about a sex-addicted woman and the man who attempts to "cure" her of her addiction. The captivity is non-consensual, but from all I've seen and read, it's not done with evil intent. It's more of an intervention than a kidnapping.




I'm confused! Why would a man cure a woman from her sex addiction? ..... lol




lonlyrossInNeed -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 11:26:55 AM)

yes they do but i dont like getting up from a movie unless i am with someone ans asked to get somthing
so i buy a botle of watter i dont drink soda or anything like that so i just get the bottled watter ;)

ross.g

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Ross didnt they have a water fountain to drink out of for free.




Sternhand4 -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 1:14:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TrueCalling

Well, this explains the email I received yesterday! Hmm, twenty six year old male goes to movies, comes home and...voila!

colleen


greetings i am a master in mn looking for a slave to keep and abuse. if you have seen the promo for the movie black man moan that is how i want to keep you chained to a wall in my apartment. maybe lock you in the closet for hours at a time naked with only a bucket to use as a toliet and let you out to serve me or to rape and abuse you. if your are interested in this kind of life i offer you mail me back




Just too funny [sm=biggrin.gif]




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