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thetammyjo -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 1:36:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: themischievous1

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and yes i take pleasure in seeing fictional portrayals of abusive M/f D/s (by my definition) relationships because they come far closer to describing my reality and the qualities i find appropriate in a committed relationship than anything else the mainstream provides.


That's all well and fine and certainly each to his or her own, prop, but there is one thing that is a possible explanation for what you find pleasure in. If we grow up with a dynamic of abuse being modeled for us or we are in any way exposed to abusive relationships during formative years (what's formative may be up for debate, btw) then abuse can actually feel familiar and "right." Something non-abusive would feel alien and inappropriate. Something "healthy" and perhaps more mainstream would not tap into an unconscious desire to return to what is known and comfortable, no matter how dysfunctional what is known is.

The above theory may or may not apply to your particular life situation but I do think it's important to state the theory because so-called "traditional relationships" do not have to be dysfunctional or abusive in order to qualify as what might be considered traditional domestic discipline, head of the household models of a relationship.


Sometimes the things that turn us on aren't nice and certainly aren't the norm -- I mean, come on, folks you don't actually think that we all are in the majority of acknowledged models for ideal relationship behavior, do you?

Sometimes when we say "this turns me on" we don't stop to think about the other things we may be saying at the same time to other people reading or listening to us.

It is very common to think that what we like as individuals is normal and traditional. For some reason we find it easy to see all these examples of what we want and ignore things we don't.

I think a lot of us, if we were honest, could say that when we read books, watch movies or tv, when we fantasize that the things that get us wet or hard are things that are illegal, immoral, unethical, or just plain weird.

How many of us really then think about that and try to figure out it?

Even if I don't agree with someone's conclusions or someone's beliefs if they show that they have thought about it and realize it may not be right for everyone else, I can respect them for going through that self-reflection.

I'd be lying if I said that I don't get wet when I see movies or tv shows or read things were men are tortured, abused, used.

But do I really need to take that statement any further? Do I need to try and make what turns me on universal or extend it beyond myself? Why?



DoctorDubious -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 3:50:09 PM)


I was turned on by the whole
kneel-at-my-feet-in-chains thing,
and was early in line last Saturday to see this flick.

It is totally NOT a BDSM-themed movie,
despite the wonderful, cheezy blacksploitation movie posters
that are just soooooooo '70's.

Sam Jackson and Ricci are outstanding in their roles
as two lost souls who find a little (just a little) redemption
in Sam's house where he chains her down in order to
"heal you of your wicked ways..."

The soundtrack is first-rate, the performances strong,
and it really captures a little Tennessee redneck town and it's characters
in a non-schmaltzy, non-condescending way.

If you think The Blues
are about the pain and lust and joy and hurtin'
that a man and a woman can put on each other,
go see this movie.

DD
PS.... and if you think The Blues
is about Jake and Elwood on a mission from god,
then you'll probably like this movie too.....
....... though the two are polar opposites.



Phin -> RE: is BlackSnake Moan a BDSM movie? (3/6/2007 6:12:56 PM)

I thought that this was an excellent movie. It was not a BDSM theemed movie, but there are some undertones to be picked up on. I went with a few F/folks from a local BDSM group. I bet we got some weird stares at the snickers and the "ohh thats hot" from time to time and especialy "God, NOOOO, dont do that" when the chain was being removed.

I thought that the little gold chain was a wonderful idea for a public collar



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: My Review (4/20/2007 9:09:09 AM)

DCS and I went to see Black Snake Moan last night, on probably the last screen in town. Despite wanting to see it for awhile, due to the bad ratings and sales, it hadn’t been convenient for us. On the other hand, we discovered the cheap theater down the road that’s actually very nice!

First off, I loved this movie. Secondly, I can understand why a lot of people didn’t. I can say that anyone who has had issues with controlling their sexuality or using sex as a way to escape and/or enjoys bondage, will likely get something out of this movie.

Most people these days use “nympho” as a fun/cute term, something wild, or even desireable to be. In reality, it’s just like being an alcoholic. A nymphomaniac is not in control of their sexuality. It is an addiction, it is a way to try and process issues through pretending to take hold of their sexuality, when in fact they are trapped by it.

I completely understood Ray having to escape through sex, I completely understood Ray feeling out of control, I completely understood Ray knowing she shouldn’t, but not knowing any other way to be with men.

And Samuel L’s fierceness was pure bliss. His strength in forcing Rae to break out of her pattern of using sex, and learning how to rely on someone for other things was beautiful, his choice to do this because he felt God had put it upon him, and not as some sweet guardian angel was perfect. This was gods angel of the Old Testament.

The intertwining of their stories and their heartbreak, truly amazing acting. I nearly cried at the wedding scene.

The movie is not without faults- the timing of the whole thing was wrong in a lot of ways and editing was pretty choppy and interrupting, and there are about four endpoints. But it’s a real story about real people- an epic in the way that everyday humans live epics. I HIGHLY recommend.



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