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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

So you admit then that you have no idea what motivated them, and that you were merely guessing before?

It's an educated guess, and given the evidence, more likely than not. Considering the professionalism of the attack, they were certainly not, as it's been put, "Sexually repressed teenagers with raging hormones who are taught that they will own 13,824 young female virgin slaves if they die while killing non-believers"

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ORIGINAL: ferryman777

In the words of the late great communicator......"I'm the president, so, what are you going to do about it." 
Bush attained his office by usurpation; a suspisious at best, Florida recount, ...govenor being his brother.
The US can and will do anything it pleases, irregarless of some so called fairness, or what 'messages' are being sent. How to pay for this 'imperialism'...raise taxes. But...that will be the forthcoming elected democratic president's problem.
And what you or anyone thinks about it all, does not matter; in fact, you do not matter, the people do not matter. What anyone thinks is of no absolute importance whatsoever.
Has anyone noticed, the US supports China, giving almost all of it's industry to China, the US auto industry is now based in China......correct me if I'm wrong; but isn't China a communist nation and government.
The US fights communism all over the world, where ever it rears it's ugly head.....except China, where, now the US embraces China. Is communism okay now?
War is good, so long as you are not effected. Nuclear bombs are good, so long as you are not breaking out in blisters the size of an elepant and glowing a strange green lite.
It all makes MONEY. But, we will not see any of it.
If you can't eat it, or make money with it...Fuck it.

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You think that if we only close our eyes and bare our throats to them then they will leave us in peace.

Since the time of Muhummad himself they have been slicing every throat that has presented itself.

What makes you think that this time, things will be any different?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
And are you also unaware of how sexually repressed Muslim boys are? They aren't even allowed to see a face or a wrist..

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

I've known several Muslims as good friends, and I certainly don't hate them as a whole, but I understand the radicals among them quite well, and I have even studied the matter in college some. Where did you get your education in these matters?

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle
So, if I'm reading this right, you agree that China would interfere with the US's internal affairs if they could.

And you agree it's a BAD THING for China to get involved in US Internal affairs.

But you don't think it's a BAD THING for the US to get involved in Iranian Internal affairs?

If so, why the double standard? NOT OK for China w.r.t. the US, but it's OK for The US w.r.t Iran?

Are you saying "The Ends Justify The Means", or what?

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I think your position summarizes as: Iranians and other Muslims aren't as equal as everyone else. That's not how the USA works.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

News Flash - Some guy who is constantly screaming that he's going to kill my family is never as equal as everyone else.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

You are completely wrong about Japan. They had attacked almost everybody in the pacific and had to, to steal their resources. When Japan invaded Burma, the British declared war on Japan and being in violation of Japanese treaties...we cut off their oil. Then the Japanese decided to do what they had considered since the 1920's attack the US fleet in the Pacific so they could proceed with their assimilation.
I have always found it curious how people will revise history in order to make a point. The Japanese had the largest military and naval armadad in the world for 40 years going back to as far as the 1900-1903 war with Austria. The Imperial Japanese leadership saw themselves as superior to the entire world and even told the Germans they would give them the privalage of being last. Read your history folks.
 
In fact, it was our defeat of them that 'told' them our system is far better and adopted it almost whole cloth, now look at Japan.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

News Flash - Some guy who is constantly screaming that he's going to kill my family is never as equal as everyone else.

When someone ATTACKS you or your family, then shoot him dead. I'm sure a Jury would return a Not Guilty verdict if a DA is even stupid enough to bring it to trial. THEN the Jury would buy you drinks the rest of the night to congratulate you for your fine shooting. The people on Flight 93 on 9/11 are, rightly, heroes.

A lot of fatheads run their mouth for no good reason. Do you dignify their rants by listening to them? Do you invade their homes and try to tell them what they can or can't do just because they're fatheads with big mouths? That would be silly, wouldn't it?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

The people in question have a long and detailed history of just such extremely violent behavior,

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and so you would be foolish beyond belief to wait for them to act in such a case.

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While they may be adults, their mindsets are from the stone age and they fully deserve to be treated as if they were children.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Is the truth that hard for you to handle, farglebargle? And it is the truth. After all, it isn't the epitome of civilized culture to fly fully loaded jet airplanes into skyscrapers filled with innocent men, women and children in order to please some blood-thirsty god.

If it's racist, bigoted, and stereotypical to speak the truth, then so be it - I stand by it.

What imaginary little world should we live in if we can't speak the truth. PC world?

No thank you. I'll leave that little world to you and yours, and I'm sure you'll be ever so blissfull there.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Is the truth that hard for you to handle, farglebargle? And it is the truth. After all, it isn't the epitome of civilized culture to fly fully loaded jet airplanes into skyscrapers filled with innocent men, women and children in order to please some blood-thirsty god.

If it's racist, bigoted, and stereotypical to speak the truth, then so be it - I stand by it.

What imaginary little world should we live in if we can't speak the truth. PC world?

No thank you. I'll leave that little world to you and yours, and I'm sure you'll be ever so blissfull there.

The problem with your reasoning is the 9/11 hijackers didn't do it, as you put it, "to please some bloodthirsty god."

1) The Muslim G-d, is the same as the Christian G-d, which is the same as the Hebrew G-d. And since the Old Testament G-d isn't anything like the New Testament G-d, why should the Koranic G-d be the same as either?

2) http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch5.htm Chapter 5 makes it quite clear that the animosity towards the United States felt by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, was "not from his experiences there as a student, but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy favoring Israel."

It wasn't an act of religious fervor, as you think, but instead an act of politically based terrorism, plain and clear.

You underlying assumptions may be racist and bigoted, but they sure ain't the truth. Whatever gets you through the night, baby... Whatever gets you through the night.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Of course it was an act of religious fervor, farglebargle. Don't be so ludicrous!!! You're kidding yourself. Right?? That's ALL it was.

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We are the great Satan... and we must submit to the will of Allah - convert or die, that is our choce, and these are their terms.

Period.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Fine, go on believing that they're fighting for mayonaise or whatever it is that you think they're fighting for. What do you think, that they're still mad because of the crusades or something. Are they pissed off because we're buying their oil from them. Tell me this - how do you think they came to control half of the planet, farglebargle. I'll even try to keep a straight face while you make something up again, and guess at an answer like you do whenever you don't know.