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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/5/2007 5:52:37 PM

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_628719/mpage_1/key_ceremonies/tm.htm#631684
ceremonies

http://www.collarchat.com/m_574595/mpage_1/key_collaring/tm.htm#574600
collaring and wedding ceremony

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Collar vs Wedding Ring

http://www.collarchat.com/m_247668/mpage_1/key_collar/tm.htm#247668
ring or collar, what's the difference?

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/5/2007 6:03:26 PM

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Thank you much for the links!!!

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/5/2007 7:30:21 PM

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The details are private but O/our collaring ceremony took 3 hours. It was incredible and exhausting. i am a lucky lucky slave
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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/5/2007 8:05:36 PM

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I am meeting my new girl in Singapore for a weekend and collaring ceremony, shes flying in from Oz. Im planning it in great detail, the one thing that troubles me slightly is that in a sense, there should be a witness.

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/6/2007 7:27:36 AM

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I am not one to so quickly put a collar around a pretty neck.IN fact can still after all theses years count on one hand the number of collars I have given,I want it some thing to be remembered so there fore an elaborate ceremony is required..IT is done among a group of lifestyle friends,A dark room with a circle of white candles burning brightly within this circle she waits for me to enter,There she reads what ever it is that she has written to express her devotion to us,then I burn her note so those words will never be spoken to another again,I prick our fingers and the blood runs together, her collar is given to her along with a new name if I have choose to re name her and then a helve party breaks out smiles..Just a brief moment of a long day...bounty..PS I have attended to some collaring ceremonies over the years and a few bored me to death because they where too long and rambled on ..BE quick and to the point give that girl her collar in my thinking

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/6/2007 7:50:27 AM

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We attended a function at a local dungeon Saturday that included a public "Collaring of Consideration and Training" ceremony. It was very interesting for this slave as she had never witnessed such a thing.

the slave had petitioned two Mistresses for this collar and all three of them were up on the stage they had set up with candles, flowers and a place for the slave to kneel. the Mistresses both wore leather outfits and the slave wore a red panty/bra set, white corset with white stockings and her hair in two pigtails.

After a brief introduction and explanation of what was to occur, the ceremony commenced. the slave read a short tribute and pledged her loyalty and devotion. one of the Mistresses read a statement of acceptance of this slave for a period of 6 months for training and consideration and all agreed this was something they took very seriously.

they each took turns signing the contract, follwed up with pricking their thumbs and placing a bloody thumbprint along with their signature on the page.

they all lit candles which they then, together lit a single candle with, to symbolize their unity. a fancy black and red collar was placed around the slave's neck. they hugged and smiled!!!

before the ceremony we had the chance to speak to one of the Mistresses who reported to us that she loved this girl very much and was very excited about training her up, the same as she was trained in the beginning, learning the ropes and then moving up to a Domme, once trained and experienced.

edited to add the signing of the contract part ...

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/6/2007 8:31:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

Thanks for bringing it up and helping me squick owned *eg*

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I'm ignoring both of you.

As for my collar, I presented myself to him, he used me extremely hard, and then he brought out the box the collar was in, opened it and handed it to me to look at. I smiled, removed it from the box to touch it and handle it, and then handed it up to him. He proceded to clasp it about my neck and then took photos of me all teary-eyed in it. :)

As for begging for the collar...not presumptuous at all, in that I had no expectations of him actually giving it to me. Telling him "Hey I want my collar now" would have been presumptuous, lol. Asking him if he would consider putting a collar on me...begging him of my need for him...and going on to have to analyze and explain why I felt I was ready for it and why he should give it to me was difficult. He denied me the first time I asked for it, so I presumed nothing!

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/6/2007 2:33:00 PM

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We attended a function at a local dungeon Saturday that included a public "Collaring of Consideration and Training" ceremony. It was very interesting for this slave as she had never witnessed such a thing.

the slave had petitioned two Mistresses for this collar and all three of them were up on the stage they had set up with candles, flowers and a place for the slave to kneel. the Mistresses both wore leather outfits and the slave wore a red panty/bra set, white corset with white stockings and her hair in two pigtails.

After a brief introduction and explanation of what was to occur, the ceremony commenced. the slave read a short tribute and pledged her loyalty and devotion. one of the Mistresses read a statement of acceptance of this slave for a period of 6 months for training and consideration and all agreed this was something they took very seriously.

This is a lovely and inspiring example (sighhhh...and what great outfits too!...smiles!), especially for just the "consideration/training" stage...and left me wondering what the future actual collar would be if that would occur.... except for one key factor mentioned. The stated goal given was to train the sub up to a Domme, so it sounds as if a permenant collar would NOT be necessary or appropriate as then the Domme would (likely) not be a collared sub to them, or at all. Do they wish to be a "Domme Team of Three" in six months?...ending up as a convent of Dommes to attract and have their combined way on unsuspecting subs?...or expecting subs perhaps....what evil adminstrations do they plan?! But more seriously I wonder why anyone would engage in such training fully knowing they are training the sub "up and out" to become a Dom/Domme, or in other cases, where the sub stays a sub/slave, is likely even to hand ownership over to another D/D once enough suitable training is completed? Surely the process of training just for training's sake can't be all that satisfying compared to reaping the L-T rewards of having a sub/slave.

This thought/question even goes to the motivations of those D/D's whom might offer/accept to give training to a one when some of the key desired match-up factors do not seem to be present initially (say location, age, or even degree of on-line versus 24/7 aspects). But in at least some cases it might be because they hope to train the sub out of their stated preferences? But not to hijack this topic, I appreciate referrals to another past topic where this may have already been discussed already (but maybe some clarification here might be okay?).

In this topic in other similar threads it seems that there can be a training collar, a "current" commitment one, and of course the "long-term," or permanent type collar (or symbol of such) all depending on the style of the Master/Mistresses. Read before where it's compariable to using 3-rings or to going steady, engaged and married. But seems most relationships only have a collar for the final stage. However I think having a training collar, again in whatever form, when under strong consideration is a constructive idea as well...just as an engagement process. .

I wonder if there is a protocol about "which person" brings up the idea of a collar up in the relationship, as compared to a girl/sub waiting to be asked to be married? At least most of the time. I see the "begging" from a sub for one as just a strong sign that the sub is ready from a committment view to be collared, but it takes a wiser One to know if she/he is truly ready and if in more aspects is finally acceptable/desired to be collared.

As for myself I would not want to be offered nor request a engagement or permenant collar until both of us were highy sure we were the right ones for each other (no velco collars for this one in my future), and my status at this time is only at the first of three stages (training with the possibility of serious consideration in the future), so would have 2 more committment stages to go if it did go in that direction. But no hurry being a newbie in the scene, and feel knowing one's self better is a very first requirement, at least for me.

Am curious, how long have you, the OP "makemedaddy" been in training so far? And how far in the future does your Master/daddy says he is looking to collar you?

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/6/2007 3:09:08 PM

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The stated goal given was to train the sub up to a Domme, so it sounds as if a permanent collar would NOT be necessary or appropriate as then the Domme would (likely) not be a collared sub to them, or at all. Do they wish to be a "Domme Team of Three" in six months?...ending up as a convent of Dommes to attract and have their combined way on unsuspecting subs?...or expecting subs perhaps....what evil administrations do they plan?!

chrissy,
We had some of these same questions. In fact, beth was a little put off because the Mistress description of the goal indicated that bing a 'Mistress' was a goal for this submissive as if being a 'slave' wasn't or shouldn't be a goal unto itself; at least for a female. Well, that was her opinion and it was shared by this submissive; validating the claim in this instance. I pointed out to beth, whether we agreed with her or not didn't matter anymore than our relationship needing validation of our contract and relationship goals.

Reduced to its basic level, what we witness was an example of a goal oriented relationship. The sub greatly admired and respected the Mistresses. There was emotion involved. The Mistress we spoke with spoke of "love". She said that the submissive petitioned them to train her. The six month contract period gave a fixed time of commitment of all parties. We weren't privileged to see the contents but I'm sure specific goals were stipulated along with rules for the contract period. Regardless of the specifics, or if we or anyone else agrees with the goals, isn't it good to have them documented in order to maintain focus over a period of time? Wouldn't every relationship be better served if all parties to it knew what was expected of them and, fulfilling those expectations, common desired results?

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But more seriously I wonder why anyone would engage in such training fully knowing they are training the sub "up and out" to become a Dom/Domme, or in other cases, where the sub stays a sub/slave, is likely even to hand ownership over to another D/D once enough suitable training is completed?

The same question can be asked; "why would anyone want to be trained and come out of the training as a slave?" The point is, as long as both parties have a goal and get satisfaction progressing through the journey the 'goal' is relatively immaterial. The end result, or goal, can be purely educational, or a deep as being de-humanized.

The collar is "only" the physical representation of the commitment made by both parties. Felt by the wearer, viewed by the trainer, it is a reminder of their commitment.

I distinguish a "training" collar from a permanent one by the permanence of the symbol. Some use branding, a locking collar, or some other physical reference. In our case, when the time came, I decided to add to the collar by each of us getting a tattoo. Whether a collar or some other talisman is used, what it represents is unique to the relationship, the relationship goals, and the people involved. Because people are involved, integrity varies, commitment varies, definition vary, and the 'why do it?' is unique. Which brings us back to your point.

In the case of what we witnessed, it was obvious that all involved were committed to a common goal. That is the only motivation required.

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/6/2007 3:38:26 PM

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(I apoligise ahead of time for any miss spellings.)

I am not permited to go into leanghty detail about my collaring ceremony, but there are some things I can talk about.

First, I should start off by saying that it took me 7 months for me to earn the privlige to wear Arawn's permanint collar. It was alot of work to get to that point.

As far as the ceremony it's self gose, we invited a few friends who had helped ether Arawn or I get to the point where I had earned my collar and there was the actual collaring part at the begining, then we hung out for a while eating and drinking a bit.

There was no fucking of me as part of the ceremony, I have been asked that question a few times. Actually there was nothing that I really concitered sexual about it. I was nude, but I'm a nudest and that doesn't intale sex for me.

Arawn had asked me to plan it originaly, sinse it was my acloplishment, but the fact is that I was and still am fearly new to the lifestyle and didn't know what to do. So I asked Arawn to take it over.

I felt exteramly happy and joyful when Arawn placed his collar around my neck.

The ceremony was also the time when Arawn gave me a scene name, Shylah, which means loay to god and strong.

It was a pretty big deal for me to earn a collar, I was the first submissive that Arawn has owned who compleated their training and stuck around long enough to recive a collar.

Alot of people would conciter to collaring ceremony somewhat like a wedding, but that's not how Arawn or I saw it. For on we didn't sighn any legel papers, like you would with a mearriege, and Arawn made it very clear that the cerermony had nothing to do with him, it was all about me and my achevement. Arawn had made very clear to me when he told me that we were going to have a ceremony.

Shylah

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/7/2007 3:11:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: chrissyslave

Am curious, how long have you, the OP "makemedaddy" been in training so far? And how far in the future does your Master/daddy says he is looking to collar you?

i will be getting my 1st level collar with in the next month or two, per Daddy. As for the amount/length/level of training i have received, i don't know how to answer that. i am receiving my collar because i have accepted Daddy as my Master

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/9/2007 9:42:26 AM

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i am an uncollared slave but owned. my Owner and i have spoken about being branded, i dream of that day.

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/9/2007 10:00:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

I have often wondered about sub/slaves begging for a collar. I'm not sure I could ever do this (could be wrong though!) as I would see it as presumptuous on my part that He was ready and/or willing to make that committment. Am I the only one that struggles with that thought? Sorry makeme, didn't mean to hijack with that question.

I have never begged for a collar, I have noticed that some Doms/Masters will not offer, they wait til the girl begs for their collar. One of my biggest issues that I am still working on, is learning to ask for what I want or need. I am not saying that I expect the Dom/Master to be a mind reader. I am not sure if it is the problem with not wanting to be told No and feel rejected.. or it is ego/pride that gets in my way. (which in my eyes is not a good trait for me to have)

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edited to add: It would be a good topic for it's own thread :)

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/9/2007 10:16:38 AM

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my Master and i did not have a collaring ceremony, nor did i beg for a collar. for our particular ways/beliefs, that would have been presumptious (not presuming that he would give me a collar, but presuming that i was even worth him considering), and improper. we're not really opposed to the general idea of a collaring ceremony, but for us it was just too formal and we're not big on formalities. the whole process of my transformation from his good friend and mentee, to his property for life was this: Him: "do you want to be my daughter, my slut, my slave for life?" me: (having never ever for a second considered being in a relationship with him, much less being his slave) "yes!!" Him: do you understand what that means, do you understand what your life will be? [quick run through of what "slave" meant to him and the things he demands of a slave] me: yes, yes Daddy, i want to be yours." the end. lol

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 3/10/2007 12:35:20 AM

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Ok, I've heard two people on this thread talk about a 1st level collar. I've been in the scene for a while and all I have to say is.. huh??? I've never heard of such a thing. The two collars most of my friends acknowledge are the training collar (equivalent of engagement) and the formal collar (equivalent of marriage.) Some of the younger kids talk about a collar of consideration, but for the most part, people just look at them when they bring it up. Our scene is mostly people old enough that the idea of having to have a formal period of "going steady" seems silly to them.

Usually, a collar is not given because you acknowledge someone as your Master or Mistress. It is something that comes over a period of time after the submissive proves their worth to the Dominant. It is a big commitment. My husband was collared (Training collar) one month before our wedding. He is earning his formal collar over a course of five years. This May marks his third year. Just as you generally do not get engaged or married soon after meeting someone, you shouldn't expect a collar soon after meeting someone. Someone who gives out a collar quickly and takes it back just as easily is said to be handing out velcro collars. Please think long and hard about accepting a collar just to prove you belong to someone. You devalue the current collar and any future collars you may have. (Pretty much, since a collar is like an engagement or marriage, if someone has more than a few of them in their lifetime, people tend to start either considering them flakes or too messed up to keep a relationship. They become considered bad risks by most Dominants looking for a long term partnership.) The collar isn't just ownership.. it is long term commitment. It is a promise between the two people that if something goes wrong they will try very hard to work it out before just walking away. One fight doesn't break up a collar. Make sure you're ready for a collar before you take one. Pretty much, think if you're ready to be married to someone. If you aren't, you're not ready for a collar from them.

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 5/7/2007 6:46:38 AM

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 5/7/2007 7:05:11 AM

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I took my sub to our favorite restaurant and ordered some wine. As we sat talking I took his hand into mine and asked him Do you want to be mine forever? He said yes. I said think about it because I AM talking until death do us part. He said yes Mistress. I presented him with his collar and I put it around his neck right there in the restaurant. It wasnt flashy, but low key and it meant the world to both of us.

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 5/7/2007 7:21:06 AM

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Oh there is nothing so glorious as a collaring ceremony! Ours fell exactly on the Autumn equinox, Sept 21st.
It was an out door event combining my love of my sub, her cunt and the outdoors along with the impending winter..Our choir which was composed entirely of wiccans were busy preparing for Mabon while singing a stimulating version of the Foo Fighters "The Best Of You"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd_p1A7WVNs...Very typical for any bdsm union.

she lied naked on the sacrificial alter awaiting my walk up the aisle which had been decorated in dried flowers, leaves and goats blood.....I was dressed as an Aztec High Priest and pulled her off of the sacrificial alter (which was symbolic of the killing of the prior self and a birth of her new life and commitment)....She stared into my eyes and we exchanged our vows....Upon completion of the vows she turned to face the gathered crowd and spoke of the meaning of the collaring ceremony.....She then asked for me to do the same....I turned to face the crowd...And I remember it like it was yesterday...I cleared my throat and said, "This has been ninety minutes of my life that I don't believe there is any way possible to recapture"

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 5/7/2007 4:46:34 PM

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Very beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

Congratulations on finding your One.

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RE: Collar Ceremony - 5/7/2007 4:53:57 PM

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I have never been through a ceremony myself. I have read and heard about many.

It is of course completely up to the Dominant involved and perhaps his submissive their choices.

As for petitioning for a collar, I don't think I could/would ever do that. I would expect/hope that my Dominant, would tell me when he thought I was ready.

As for a "collar of consideration." It is a term I am familiar with. To me it means that I have undertaken to entertain thoughts and speak only of a relationship with this one person. It is something I currently have. I can only say I'm enjoying the process...

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