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"In Sao Paulo, some carried stalks of sugarcane -- used to make ethanol -- and a banner reading: "For every liter of ethanol produced, 4 liters of fresh water are consumed, monoculture is destroying the nation's greatest asset." ". Apperantly one of the biggest issues is that we want to buy more ethanol from them, which the left in America seems to be all in favor of....Ironic -- Bush is being protested abroad for trying to do what the left demands at home.
Any thinking person would know that ethanol is not America's answer as an alternative fuel. Half of Brazilian traffic is run on ethanol I believe, if all that was exported to the US, it would barely satisfy 3% of the market. If all the agricultural land in the US grew crops for ethanol, it would barely touch the market demand. Apart from that, agriculture is a heavy carbon emissions industry and by the time the ethanol has got to the pumps, it will only reduce traffic wemissions by 10%.
As for the demonstrations in Brazil, if you haven't been out of the USA you won't understand just how hated Bush is. He is the man that has told the whole world they know nothing, he is the man that has pulled out of every meaningful international treaty, he is the man that has told the world he doesn't fucking care what anyone else thinks, what the USA says, goes!
Meat, "meaningfull treaties?"
I hope you don't count that fiasco called "KYOTO" as any type of "meaningfull treaty."
To me "meaningfull treaty" = "America pays."
The U.S. is only one country out of 195 in the "U.N." and we have to pay ONE THIRD of the bills?
Fuck that shit! That's like eating at a restaurant and everyone else pays $15 for a steak dinner but your's costs $400!
No it is more like eating a $2000 meal paying $400 and everyone else paying $15 and eating from the garbage can.
And, I don't want to be involved with anything that the "U.N." has anything to do with.
That's why "Global Warming" is a losing issue. The "U.N." is involved with it!
Funny, the people on the left and those beyond the left always make an outstanding argument for Isolationism.
I am curious ...just what is beyond the left? Are you now making up new terms to define those who disagree with you?
I have to say that I absolutely agree with them on that issue.
I think it *really is* time for us to be a lot more in the isolationist camp as doing the opposite (Interventionism)very obviously doesn't work.
I could not agree more but corporate amerika likes taking your tax dollars cuz they do not have enough already.
Maybe then "the world" won't "hate the U.S." like those on the left and those beyond the left have been screaming at us about.
Funny thing though, if we did act a lot more isolationist like the left wants I bet dollars to donuts that they'd be screaming at us about that as well! lol
Who exactly are these people you hate so much?
Boy! I'm glad I'm not on the left! I'd have to spend my whole life screaming at people who are not on the left!
As opposed to being where ever it is that you are and screaming at the left and the beyond left????
And if they changed their positions 180 degrees I'd *still* have to scream at them for (that) position!
"IRAQ! SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM!"
"NO IRAQ!" "SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM!"
"INTERVENTIONISM!" "SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM!"
"ISOLATIONISM!" "SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM!"
Man! There's just no pleasing those people!
You say you want us out of Iraq does that mean you are on the left?
I think it's hillarious that the left (doesn't) want us in Iraq but these *very same people* (do) want us in Darfur! So they (do) believe in interventionism? Or they (don't?) Or they (do.) lol "Go ahead, backup!"
Oh, on the left they have "The Left",& "Liberals" but what do they call the people beyond the left? Anyone know?
It is your term, why don't you tell us what you mean by it.
I know a lot of people who consider themselves "liberals" and they are very reasonable people but don't consider themselves "on the left" or "on the right."
Now you have confused me I thought you said that the left was the liverals...have you been in the pain killers again?
And I wish that Presidents would leave *OUR* checkbook behind when they visit foreign countries!
Bush can "promise" as much as he wants but that doesn't mean that the congress is going to appropriate any money, especially (this) congress. I know I'll be calling my congressman and telling him "NO" on any money for this.
Is there a spending bill that congress has sent to the president that he has not signed?
Oh, and as for "water being consumed" to produce ethanol, that water just doesn't dissapear, it's recycled into something else.
Minus whatever has been kicked out into space by astronauts there is the exact amount of water on this planet as there was 10 million years ago.
While this is true on the whole it is not the whole truth
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