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Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 3:21:03 PM   
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      To those of you in northern latitudes,  too bad. 

     It's GRILLING season!!!!  My project this beautiful spring afternoon is to cure my new grill.  No propane for me, it's a brand new Char-Griller, with the smokebox attachment, and enough cast iron grill surface to feed 15.  Putting it together was exactly the pain in the ass I expected, and my wife finally understood why I let it stay in the box for a month until the right opportunity to spread it out with a helper handy arose.

     With the joy of a new toy, comes the knowledge that I'm going to have to figure it out.  I've never cooked with the smokebox before.  It's very strange to know that I'll be tending the grill for the next 4 hours without any meat in it.  I'm supposed to try for 250 degrees for the first two and 200 the next.  Running a bit hot just now, but I should figure out the damper adjustments soon.

     Anybody besides me addicted to food cooked over fire in the great outdoors?  Feel like disclosing a trick of the trade?
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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 3:32:45 PM   
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I think it needs to be seasoned first.  Although I live in Chicago for 6 months and hibernate for the remainder...Today it is 70...Wow!  great grilling weather!..I have always used a webber as well as a smoker but was looking at  the Super Pro the other day...Pretty damn cool!  Using indirect heat is as good of a way as any and allows you to impart much more of the charcoal flavor into your meats...(along with all of those tasty carcinogens...Who lives forever?)

I am jealous, Good grilling weather for us is just around the corner...Steaks, fish,ribs,chops, burgers,chicken as well as corn and all the other tasty vegetables that can be grilled..Eggplant is delicious!

Enjoy...

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 3:58:11 PM   
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      Curing, seasoning, it's being heated with a coat of vegetable oil and it gives me a chance to get to know how it is going to work without destroying a perfectly good London Broil and having Taco Bell for dinner in the lingering smoke.

     Guess I'll have to prime the pump a bit with the tips...

    Charcoal starting can
    Take an empty metal coffee can.  You'll also need a really big phillips screwdriver, an awl (or a tiny phillips), a hammer and about a foot of coathanger wire.  Punch two holes opposite each other at the very top with the awl.  About 1 1/2 inches down, punch 3 holes in a triangular pattern and repeat that down to the bottom.  Now take the big phillips and widen all the holes except the two at the very top.  Remove the bottom of the can and put the wire through the top two for a handle.

     Place this in your grill and fill it with charcoal.  Add lighter fluid and fire in the appropriate order (once the top is lit, place the flame near a hole in the bottom).  When the top is properly ashed, remove the can (with tongs, unless you are a VERY heavy masochist) and spread out the coals.  A minute or two of full exposure to air and they'll be ready to go.  Wind putting out the fire will no longer be an issue.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:01:40 PM   
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There are so many things that you can do right, but most people do 'em wrong.  I'm gonna assume you know how to pick quality meat, have it prepared for grilling, have the grill seasoned and clean.  I could spend hours talking about meat...but that will have to wait.

Ok, what are you using to fire that baby?  PLEASE...No Kingford.  That stuff is petroleum by-product.  YUCK.  You need to grab some wood, dude.   Wood.  Wood Wood WOOD.  Get WOOD.

You need a source of clean wood chips of various varieties.  For everyday flavor I use hickory and/or apple.  Mesquite gives a great flavor, but some folks don't like it and its pretty over-used.  Also here in the great midwest, it has to be imported and its expensive. 

For fish, NOTHING beats Alder.  Get some fresh lake trout (catch 'em yourself if you are blessed), and cold smoke 'em with alder...The flesh turns a delicate translucent pink, and they melt in your mouth with an essence of fish, smoke, cold water and heaven. 

Some folks swear by cherry and oak...two very different flavors.  I like cherry, but again, its expensive, and I think you get most of the same flavor with apple.  Oak can be incredible, but like mesquite it can overflavor the meat.

I've heard lemon and olive both are exotic and wonderful...never tried 'em.  Pine is just resiny and funky...too much oily flavor for a good piece of meat.

I get my Apple, Cherry, Alder (YUM) and Hickory cheap and local (well, Wisconsin is fairly local).  If you are gonna invest in an expensive, unusual wood, get some pecan chips (sweet, rich smoke and flavor).  In vogue right now are "cured" woods -- my favorite being old bourbon barrels.  BUT BEWARE, any alcohol barrel that was sulfur cured (usually wine barrels) can impart an awful, funky smell and taste.

A secret:  If you are doing pork (especially chops or loin), throw a few clean, dry corncobs into the smoker.  MMMMMMMM.  This is an old Iowa grilling trick:   Fresh "Iowa chops" (about 1" thick, a pound each), a clean 55 Gal drum with the wood and cobs at the bottom and an iron grate on top...set fire to the stuff on the bottom (NO, never use lighter fluid or newspaper...UGH.  If you can't build a fire with clean scrap tinder, get outta the grill, man!  Or get a handy submissive to do it.)  Then let the grill get hot enough to sear the meat, and put em on....8-10 minutes a side (I like my Iowa chops pinkish) and serve em right off the drum.  You'll finally know why God put pigs, wood and fire on this earth.

Damn.  I gotta fire up the Weber this weekend.  Good barbeque is a religion to me.  Its not like going to church....its better.  I don't go to church.  I grill.

E.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:03:12 PM   
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I'm out there grilling all winter.  In the rain.  In the snow.  I love to grill.
A real simple marinade...equal parts soy, honey, olive oil and lemon juice.
Great on chicken, steaks and shrimp. 

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:09:31 PM   
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     You missed my absolute favorite wood, Emperor.  Cedar.  You haven't had one of the finest flavors on the planet until you've cooked salmon on a cedar plank.  Simply amazing.  E-mail me on the other side and I'll get you a link to order the right size planks and a few tips that aren't in the instructions.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:38:22 PM   
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Congrats on the new grill.
Its more effort here in the winter ( you have to shovel out a path to the grill ) but as a grill fanatic its worth the effort.




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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:45:42 PM   
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I cured mine in the oven.   LOL  Along with my cast iron skillets.   I also grill year round.   Mine lives on the front porch under an awning.  

Move out here Rich   you can get a ton of cedar for free.   grows wild around here.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:52:33 PM   
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Ok ok cooking, bbqing whatever you wanna call it is not playing with fire.
Get a girls hopes up why dont ya? *tut*

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:54:33 PM   
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      Let me put my little branding iron for initialing the steaks on the coals for a few minutes.....

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:55:03 PM   
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Well; living in Florida; I generally wear out a grill each year. I was wondering what that thing in the corner of the kitchen was for? You know, the one with the funny circle things that heat up.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 4:56:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RWAble

Well; living in Florida; I generally wear out a grill each year. I was wondering what that thing in the corner of the kitchen was for? You know, the one with the funny circle things that heat up.


Making tea when the sun isn't out.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:01:27 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Well; living in Florida; I generally wear out a grill each year. I was wondering what that thing in the corner of the kitchen was for? You know, the one with the funny circle things that heat up.


Making tea when the sun isn't out.



     That's what you permit the sub to use to boil the beef ribs.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:02:22 PM   
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Solar tea is my method...lol. But I might investigate that device in the kitchen.

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:02:43 PM   
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     Let me put my little branding iron for initialing the steaks on the coals for a few minutes.....


Now you're talking

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:02:48 PM   
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Ok ok cooking, bbqing whatever you wanna call it is not playing with fire.
Get a girls hopes up why dont ya? *tut*



Grilling is NOT BBQ.

Fire Play: http://www.templeofpoi.com/index.php

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:05:59 PM   
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Rich   you are making me soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hungry.   Why don't we get a Beef and put it on a spit and just chow down till we pop

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:06:36 PM   
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Sheesh dont take ur burgers and your steaks too seriously.
 
Grilling is not fire play !!

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:08:50 PM   
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Depends on whom we are grilling     hehehehehehe

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RE: Playing with fire - 3/13/2007 5:10:33 PM   
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well i have delicate skin so im afraid that rules me out

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