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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/6/2009 9:10:52 PM

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It is a dream to be physically dominated by the women whether she is BBW or not .. i always believed that the subs are in someway weaker to the dommes mentally and that is one of the reason for them to accept their submission before the domme and if it is added with physical strength its all the more better .. it becomes more better .. its a feeling of more submission and also the fear factor adds up the zing..

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I often find that men love the idea of subbing to a woman who can physically dominate them. As a BBW, I am able to force my will not only mentally but with my strength and weight. Men who truly wish to be controlled rather than just having a fantasy of it can find that fact intoxicating. When a sub looks at me, my physical power is obvious. They know I can force compliance. While there are some smaller or average size women who are able to physically control men by virtue of learning self defense skills, it isn't something you can tell by just looking at them.

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/7/2009 3:21:12 AM

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I do not believe I am weaker than my domme mentally, nor do I believe any sub is weaker mentally. To me, that is a crock. You are basically stating that subs are mentally inferior to dommes. As a submissive, I believe it takes a very strong individual, not an inferior one, to accept and be proud of the fact they are strong enough on their own, but prefer to turn over control to a dominant.

While I do prefer the curvier and more voluptuous female form, all women are beautiful, no matter their body type. My domme just happens to be on the voluptuous side, but I am submissive to her because it's just who I am. It is sort of a ying-yang dynamic. While she is be dominant with or without me, she wants my submission to complete her dominance. I am submissive whether I'm with her or not, but I want her dominance to complete my submission. I don't submit to just anyone, no matter if they are slim or curvy. I am submissive, but my submission is reserved for only one.

I have experience with dommes that are 6' tall and 250 or so pounds, so they had the physical size to literally force themselves on me and I could do very little to resist (I'm 5'5" and 155 pounds). While that is a very hot fact to me, I seem to prefer someone who can conquer me by giving me just a look or using a simple touch. I love being dominated physically, but there is something about a domme who can force her will upon me on the psychological level.

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/7/2009 5:12:50 PM

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In My lifetime here in Australia (ie 40 years), women's sizes have magically transformed. In those days, size 16 was called W for Women of normal size post-puberty (ie at 16 years and on), size 14 was SW, Small Women, and downwards to SSW (12) and SSSW (10). Size 8 didn't really exist, they were stuck with kids clothes! Or in the better stores, sizes 8 and 10 had a special department called "petites" which was the polite term for "too damn scrawny and lacking tits!" Size 18 was XW (Xtra Woman!), then XXW (20) and XXXW (22). Nearly all shops stocked all those sizes. Plus sizes started at size 24 and up.

Now, everyone wants to be petite, you are considered largeish if you are size 12, and plus sizes start at 14 in some shops, 16 in others. What happened??? And all this in a society which has steadily become larger ... cause and effect?? It's crazy! And while I would now be plus size even under the old system, I just don't buy into all the image crap that goes with it. One of My academic friends began a project of measuring women in all parts of Australia so that new clothing sizes and shapes could more accurately represent the modern population (many of the "standards" are ancient!). Surprise surprise, it's been hard to get funding! It seems people would rather be deluded by a lie than know the truth.

However, I concur that it has been heartening to know that there are male subs out there who don't discriminate against Dommes of substance! And I totally agree with rubberpet that male subs don't have to be mentally weaker, where's the fun in Dominating that?

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/7/2009 8:57:42 PM

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I do not believe I am weaker than my domme mentally, nor do I believe any sub is weaker mentally. To me, that is a crock. You are basically stating that subs are mentally inferior to dommes. As a submissive, I believe it takes a very strong individual, not an inferior one, to accept and be proud of the fact they are strong enough on their own, but prefer to turn over control to a dominant.

I dont mean the sub is inferior mentally.. never ..and yes he has a very strong self esteem if the sub is proud to give his control to the domme.I am quite successful in my work area and thats due to my strong mental capacities but i have always bowed down before strong women and now when i say 'strong woman' .. she ought be strong physically or mentally.. she could be strong mentally because she could have a stronger will power as you very rightly said " who can force her 'will' upon me ' .. there has to be some aspect mentally where the domme is stronger then the sub.and if its not please enlighten me .. i always thought she has to be stronger in some aspect to be the domme in the dyanamics of the relationship.

While I do prefer the curvier and more voluptuous female form, all women are beautiful, no matter their body type. My domme just happens to be on the voluptuous side, but I am submissive to her because it's just who I am. It is sort of a ying-yang dynamic. While she is be dominant with or without me, she wants my submission to complete her dominance. I am submissive whether I'm with her or not, but I want her dominance to complete my submission. I don't submit to just anyone, no matter if they are slim or curvy. I am submissive, but my submission is reserved for only one.

I have experience with dommes that are 6' tall and 250 or so pounds, so they had the physical size to literally force themselves on me and I could do very little to resist (I'm 5'5" and 155 pounds). While that is a very hot fact to me, I seem to prefer someone who can conquer me by giving me just a look or using a simple touch. I love being dominated physically, but there is something about a domme who can force her will upon me on the psychological level.

Very rightly said 'domme who can force her will upon me' .. do you mean she has more stronger will power then you mentally..

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/8/2009 1:19:57 AM

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I do not believe I am weaker than my domme mentally, nor do I believe any sub is weaker mentally. To me, that is a crock. You are basically stating that subs are mentally inferior to dommes. As a submissive, I believe it takes a very strong individual, not an inferior one, to accept and be proud of the fact they are strong enough on their own, but prefer to turn over control to a dominant.

I dont mean the sub is inferior mentally.. never ..and yes he has a very strong self esteem if the sub is proud to give his control to the domme.I am quite successful in my work area and thats due to my strong mental capacities but i have always bowed down before strong women and now when i say 'strong woman' .. she ought be strong physically or mentally.. she could be strong mentally because she could have a stronger will power as you very rightly said " who can force her 'will' upon me ' .. there has to be some aspect mentally where the domme is stronger then the sub.and if its not please enlighten me .. i always thought she has to be stronger in some aspect to be the domme in the dyanamics of the relationship.

While I do prefer the curvier and more voluptuous female form, all women are beautiful, no matter their body type. My domme just happens to be on the voluptuous side, but I am submissive to her because it's just who I am. It is sort of a ying-yang dynamic. While she is be dominant with or without me, she wants my submission to complete her dominance. I am submissive whether I'm with her or not, but I want her dominance to complete my submission. I don't submit to just anyone, no matter if they are slim or curvy. I am submissive, but my submission is reserved for only one.

I have experience with dommes that are 6' tall and 250 or so pounds, so they had the physical size to literally force themselves on me and I could do very little to resist (I'm 5'5" and 155 pounds). While that is a very hot fact to me, I seem to prefer someone who can conquer me by giving me just a look or using a simple touch. I love being dominated physically, but there is something about a domme who can force her will upon me on the psychological level.

Very rightly said 'domme who can force her will upon me' .. do you mean she has more stronger will power then you mentally..

That's not quite what I mean. I think I may have chosen poorly on my wording when I said "there is something about a domme who can force her will upon me on the psychological level". It's not so much forcing her will upon me in a traditional sense. It's not that she has a stronger will power than me mentally, it's that I open myself to her control and dominance because she brings the specific level and style of dominance that my submissive mentality responds to. I want to be conquered by her, so if our "ying" and "yang" line up correctly, then I somehow open myself up and let her dominance consume me because that's what I want. It's who she is both as a person and a domme that make me want live under her rule. I can not only see myself marrying her and spending my life with her, but I also see her as the only domme that I choose to give my freedom to.

In essence, it is a conscious choice that I made about her. I just happen to respond to her style and level of dominance, just like she responds to my style and level of submission. It's all about free will and freedom of choice. I choose to be under her control and command. She did not force me to be her slave, but she forces her will upon me on the psychological level because I allow it.

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/8/2009 3:04:34 AM

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I do not believe I am weaker than my domme mentally, nor do I believe any sub is weaker mentally. To me, that is a crock. You are basically stating that subs are mentally inferior to dommes. As a submissive, I believe it takes a very strong individual, not an inferior one, to accept and be proud of the fact they are strong enough on their own, but prefer to turn over control to a dominant.

I dont mean the sub is inferior mentally.. never ..and yes he has a very strong self esteem if the sub is proud to give his control to the domme.I am quite successful in my work area and thats due to my strong mental capacities but i have always bowed down before strong women and now when i say 'strong woman' .. she ought be strong physically or mentally.. she could be strong mentally because she could have a stronger will power as you very rightly said " who can force her 'will' upon me ' .. there has to be some aspect mentally where the domme is stronger then the sub.and if its not please enlighten me .. i always thought she has to be stronger in some aspect to be the domme in the dynamics of the relationship.

While I do prefer the curvier and more voluptuous female form, all women are beautiful, no matter their body type. My domme just happens to be on the voluptuous side, but I am submissive to her because it's just who I am. It is sort of a ying-yang dynamic. While she is be dominant with or without me, she wants my submission to complete her dominance. I am submissive whether I'm with her or not, but I want her dominance to complete my submission. I don't submit to just anyone, no matter if they are slim or curvy. I am submissive, but my submission is reserved for only one.

I have experience with dommes that are 6' tall and 250 or so pounds, so they had the physical size to literally force themselves on me and I could do very little to resist (I'm 5'5" and 155 pounds). While that is a very hot fact to me, I seem to prefer someone who can conquer me by giving me just a look or using a simple touch. I love being dominated physically, but there is something about a domme who can force her will upon me on the psychological level.

Very rightly said 'domme who can force her will upon me' .. do you mean she has more stronger will power then you mentally..

That's not quite what I mean. I think I may have chosen poorly on my wording when I said "there is something about a domme who can force her will upon me on the psychological level". It's not so much forcing her will upon me in a traditional sense.

I am getting confused now but what you want to say pleaseee..

It's not that she has a stronger will power than me mentally, it's that I open myself to her control and dominance because she brings the specific level and style of dominance that my submissive mentality responds to.

Could you please specify what is that specific level of dominance in common terminology for normal souls like us..

I want to be conquered by her, so if our "ying" and "yang" line up correctly, then I somehow open myself up and let her dominance consume me because that's what I want. It's who she is both as a person and a domme that make me want live under her rule. I can not only see myself marrying her and spending my life with her, but I also see her as the only domme that I choose to give my freedom to.

That same thing applies to most of dommes / subs dear.. but could you please enlighten me why does one person dominates and why does one person submits..that is my only question..is it that one person who dominates his a bully and one who is dominated is the bullied one..

In essence, it is a conscious choice that I made about her. I just happen to respond to her style and level of dominance, just like she responds to my style and level of submission. It's all about free will and freedom of choice. I choose to be under her control and command. She did not force me to be her slave, but she forces her will upon me on the psychological level because I allow it.

Thats again true for most of us here..we all submit to someone special only and we all do as per our own wish and its never forced in the free world.. but the question is still open why does one dominates and why does one submits.. why ..

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/8/2009 4:09:50 AM

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Ok, I'll see if I can explain this.

First off, the specific level of dominance I refer to is a subjective term. Every submissive responds to different things a dominant may do. One sub may want a dominant to virtually micromanage them to the point they are told when they can eat, go to the bathroom, or even if allowed to leave the house. Another sub may want someone more sexually dominant that invokes much less protocol on everyday life. I'm, more or less, in the middle of the examples above. I don't want to be micromanaged because I am an adult and can make responsible decisions on my own. In other words, Mistress is like my supervisor. I know my job, I know what is expected of me. I do my job and she just observes to make sure I do things correctly. If I mess up or make a mistake, she's there to show me the error of my ways and shows me a better way to do things. She guides me and leads me, but is not overbearing and super-controlling. Does that make sense?

Now, the big question: why does a particular person dominate and another one submit? To me, it's all a matter of how they are wired. I believe dominance, submission, and sexuality are all sort of "pre-programmed" in our brain like a trait. It's just how we live, explore, and interact in our everyday lives that cultivate that seed. When I was very young, I used to like playing in the mud and slithering around in it. I knew it felt good and that I enjoyed it, but I didn't know why. When I turned 12, I got a birthday spanking from a girl I had a major thing for. I didn't understand why I enjoyed having this girl pin me down to spank me. All I knew is I really enjoyed it.

Basically, I think as we go through life, the choices we make and the people we associate with shape whether we are dominant or submissive. I believe all people are either dominant, submissive, or a combination of both...that the seed is planted in all of us. Just like in farming, not every seed will grow. To me, that is why there are so many people out there that don't understand a D/s dynamic or that lack sexual freedom. It's probably the life they've lived, the people they've associated with, and the choices they've made that didn't allow them to grow on that level.

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/8/2009 12:04:49 PM

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It depends. I like them tall or short, various ages. Some very slim, some with a few pounds. If a lady is kinda fat but carries it well (Artemis Antone), she can be sexy as hell.

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/9/2009 12:17:49 AM

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For me, I like to be sure that my domme or dom is as strong or stronger than me. As a bbw myself, smaller women don't strike as much of a chord with me. I might date one, but would be unlikely to sub to one. I would be just as happy dating or subbing to another bbw. I think a big difference is also in how she carries herself. I have seen big girls without confidence that would never stir up desire in me, and I have seen big beautiful women that make me want to drop to my knees in admiration.

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/9/2009 5:21:51 AM

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So I'm good enough for you to get your rocks off but not good enough to take to the theater--nah, I think not.

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RE: Prefer subbing to plus size Women? - 3/9/2009 6:16:17 AM

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So I'm good enough for you to get your rocks off but not good enough to take to the theater--nah, I think not.

Oh I would have a few choice words in response to that kind of offer, but fortunately, the vast majority do not approach with that thinking, thank God. M

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