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Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 2:59:57 PM

SimplyMichael

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070315/bs_nm/usa_economy_greenspan_dc

Remember ol'e Greenspan saying that Bush's tax cuts were fine and all the other bullshit those lying bastards fed us?

Interest only loans allowed massive inflation of housing prices and that monster is going to come home to roost. They then kept interest rates low so people could spend their equity and feel like they were doing well despite Bush being the only president in decades to oversee an economy where wages fell in real dollars.

Republicans cant even run a third world country without turning into a disaster, why on earth people trust them with ours I will never know.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 3:20:22 PM

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Well it's about freaking time you made it down here, Simply (read that as 'welcome,' and 'you've been missed').

And what exactly do the Dems have to offer besides criticism and the talking points scandal of the day?

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 3:25:40 PM

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What do republicans have to offer but whining about people criticising them and trying to hide their latest scandal?

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 3:25:48 PM

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I don't know about Calif but the North East already is in the throughs of a housing bust and has been for some time now, 9 months or so I think.
Prices in some areas are down by 1/3 what they were last year at this time.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 3:36:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

What do republicans have to offer but whining about people criticising them and trying to hide their latest scandal?

Who's trying to hide the over-inflated housing market? It's been on my AOL welcome screen every two or three days for the last year. How is it really all that different from the Internet Bubble in the stock market that drove the economy during the Clinton Years (when everything was wonderful...)?

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 3:41:11 PM

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The Republicans had been in power ... almost complete power ... for quite some time.

Blaming anything on Democrats at this point, is reasonably funny.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 4:20:31 PM

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Ever since President Bush was elected, all we've heard is that it's the end of the world...

For seven years now, everywhere you've turned, Jehovah's Libtards have been prophesying about the gloom and doom coming nigh to anyone who would listen, and it got especially bad around the last election. Now another election is coming and it's the housing bubble that they're preaching ominously about?

Hmm. Before, they were crying because housing prices kept going up - now they might go down and GEE that's bad too. And what do you know, it's all Bush's fault.

What a freaking coincidence...

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 4:36:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070315/bs_nm/usa_economy_greenspan_dc

Remember ol'e Greenspan saying that Bush's tax cuts were fine and all the other bullshit those lying bastards fed us?

Interest only loans allowed massive inflation of housing prices and that monster is going to come home to roost. They then kept interest rates low so people could spend their equity and feel like they were doing well despite Bush being the only president in decades to oversee an economy where wages fell in real dollars.

Republicans cant even run a third world country without turning into a disaster, why on earth people trust them with ours I will never know.

I dont see how it is Bush's or the GOP's fault when people make poor financial decisions.

I'm certain even if the Dems were in charge, you would still see the same kind of mortgages being offered. Despite popular belief, the president does not have much say in the economy. He can do things that might guide it in a positive direction, but he has no real control or power over it. That's how a capitalist system works. It has limited government influence. And it is based on individual success.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 5:46:18 PM

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That's how a capitalist system works. It has limited government influence. And it is based on individual success.

Nothing like a HS civics class to be edumakated!

Watch what happens when when the Fed raises or lowers interest rates. Whatch what happens when congress looses or tightens control over FannieMae. Watch what happens when congress votes to give away money to the poor oil industry. Watch what happens when we give away mining rights, air wave rights and all sorts of highly valuable things away at or near free.

The "free" market we have is anything but free, it is in fact a utopian myth that we have anything related to a free market. Look who supports foodstamps to get an education in "free" markets, it is the Republicans who support them not because they give a rats ass about the poor but it is a way to give money to rich ag businesses. How about having a medical drug bill than bans negotiations for volume discounts or buying cheaper drugs from Canada..not much of a free market is there?

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 5:57:58 PM

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Republican greed

Isn't that redundant?

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 6:12:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Remember ol'e Greenspan saying that Bush's tax cuts were fine and all the other bullshit those lying bastards fed us?

Interest only loans allowed massive inflation of housing prices and that monster is going to come home to roost. They then kept interest rates low so people could spend their equity and feel like they were doing well despite Bush being the only president in decades to oversee an economy where wages fell in real dollars.

Republicans cant even run a third world country without turning into a disaster, why on earth people trust them with ours I will never know.

Why are you blaming just the republicans? Repbulicans are bought and paid for by corporations. Democrates sell out promises to the poor and lazy who decide not to work.

Anyhow, Bush does have a Masters Degree in Business Administration. Surely he knows a thing or two about interest, equity, and loans figuring how it helps the USA economy.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 6:49:33 PM

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I totally agree. This is a goverment of, by, and for the rich and powerful, and it does not matter what party controls Washington. I will be relieved to see Bush gone, although I don't expect to see any great improvements.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:02:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070315/bs_nm/usa_economy_greenspan_dc

Remember ol'e Greenspan saying that Bush's tax cuts were fine and all the other bullshit those lying bastards fed us?

Interest only loans allowed massive inflation of housing prices and that monster is going to come home to roost. They then kept interest rates low so people could spend their equity and feel like they were doing well despite Bush being the only president in decades to oversee an economy where wages fell in real dollars.

Republicans cant even run a third world country without turning into a disaster, why on earth people trust them with ours I will never know.

On a positive note, as a union member I am pre-approved for a loan which would support about half the cost of a nice home here in Southern California.

Of course, when housing prices go tits up, I will still be pre-approved for the same amount.

I really hate capitalizing on other people's misfortune, but nobody held a gun to their head and told them to refinance interest only.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:05:48 PM

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it does not matter what party controls Washington

I rip out my hair whenever folks say that, because who controls Washington matters enormously.

Here are just a few thing to consider:

-- appointment of Supreme Court justices and federal judges
-- environmental policies
-- abortion and family planning
-- stem-cell research
-- fiscal policy
-- Iraq policy
-- consumer protection
-- educational issues

These are merely a handful of quick examples of areas in which the two parties diverge sharply.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:06:39 PM

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I totally agree. This is a goverment of, by, and for the rich and powerful, and it does not matter what party controls Washington. I will be relieved to see Bush gone, although I don't expect to see any great improvements.

Bush bankrupted or put out of business every business he had any controlling interest.

Not too big a stretch of the imagination he would do the same thing to the United States.

People get upset when I refer to him as Monkeyboy. I dont get it.

Sinergy

p.s. some percentage of you people voted for him, hope you are happy for being partially responsible for that nitwit getting the keys to the city.

p.p.s. On a related note, Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone this month made the statement that while Monkeyboy was arrested at some idiotically juvenile state of consciousness, the true Machiavellian evil destroying this country is firmly nested in Shotgun's black heart.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:10:01 PM

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People get upset when I refer to him as Monkeyboy. I dont get it.

Well, it's a bit unfair to our fellow primates, don't you think?

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:14:06 PM

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People get upset when I refer to him as Monkeyboy. I dont get it.

Well, it's a bit unfair to our fellow primates, don't you think?

monkeegirl, who I refer to as strumpet, reminds me of this constantly.

On the other hand, as I point out to her repeatedly, it is my world, she is just used for sex and cleaning my place.

Sinergy

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:21:20 PM

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monkeegirl, who I refer to as strumpet, reminds me of this constantly.

Smart woman!

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:26:29 PM

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People get upset when I refer to him as Monkeyboy. I dont get it.

Probably me you are talking about.

It's not that it makes me upset ... more that I think it contributes to the degeneration of what is supposed to be an intelligent process to pick good leaders, based on the issues of the day.

We shouldn't be shocked when our election turn on what the "Swift Boat Liars for Truth" have to say, when the general point of view expressed is that it's proper to refer to our leaders as monkeys, and further polarize the two sides in their deep trenches of defense.

You are probably a lot smarter than me, and clearly know a lot more about nearly everything (and I really mean that) ... but it's hard for me to understand how you can't see that you are actually contributing to the problem when you act that way.

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RE: Republican greed and the destruction of America - 3/15/2007 7:39:32 PM

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I have been meaning to take a break and just read Daddy's posts instead of typing for a few days because of some time issues I have lately, but I felt I needed to respond to people getting upset at satire and political poking fun at each other.

First of all, I believe we are all responsible for our own feelings in this world, which means if others are upset because Daddy calls that son of a bitch a monkeyboy, well they are the ones with personal issues because they allowed themselves to be upset over something they claim is "juvenile"

Secondly, Daddy readily admits he has a juvenile side... look at his avatar (this is actually something I find appealing, because we can never grow up together)

Thirdly, I think holding common citizens to some standard of keeping political discourse civil is just plain silly, Americans never have been civil in their discourse, to suggest it "should" be that way is to foist your sense of values and decorum off on others... sorry, I reject that whole line of thinking. If this was some sort of acadmemic debate on a college I would agree with you, but this is a BDSM message board, we do not have to put on high and might airs here, do we?

I do not think I am my brother's or my sister's keeper, I think they can keep themselves just fine. I find it very hard to understand this high and mighty attitude of OOOHHH you can't say ttttthhhhaaaatttt about the PRESIDENT! Well we can according to the TOS of this site. We can also have Stimpy avatars, make fun of whatever we like.

We have a long tradition of political cartoons and satire, it is odd that this is seen as ok, as long as one is on Comedy Central... but not if one is a regular person.

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