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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:04:51 AM   
slavequery


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thank You Maam

i will discuss this with Master tonight. You have another brilliant thought.

i thank You


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Believe it or not, i still have no problem with this. But my query is; it there any of you out in CM land who is aware of just what Master is planning on doing? i have tried googling and can not seem to find much info. i just want to be well informed about what is about to happen to me.



I could have swallowed this pill up until right here.

If you are giving this much control and legal authority to one person, but have absolutely no idea what his intent or plans are...that comes off as a little more than just "fucked up" to me.

Typically, responsible adults become informed BEFORE making the decisions, not atter.

Rather than ask us for hypotheticals about what he is planning, I would seriously suggest having a long adult talk with him before going threw with any of this.


my dear Sir.

He and i have had a rather lengthy discussion. Both of us have not slept yet, He went to work.

Essentially, what He is doing is in short form a type of mental hold on me. What i want from any of you is what the laws of Canada are. He and i will be setting down with His lawyer in a few days and all will be revealed. i am eager to learn prior to that meeting.

i thank You for not flaming either of us.


You need to contact your own lawyer then and someone representing you before you sign anything.

To do less than this is to not take your future committment to him very seriously and it does not take your committment to yourself very seriously in my opinion.

Anyone who would not encourage you to get this advice before signing anything with him is someone I would consider untrustworthy or insecure. Those are not traits I associate with a good dominant.

Fox and I started talking about legal matters last weekend, I have a very slow and purposeful approach to anything I do when training or owning someone. One thing I told him was that if we decided to look into this he should get his own legal consul to help him understand everything. He could choose not to do this but I know that I have taken steps to protect my most precious property.

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:06:50 AM   
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I agree totally with you. NO ONE in the US or it territories can leagally OWN another and the same it true in Canada. What he is doing is having some one who he knows and is likely paying off to make up papers and give her copies to play the control freak. Also if he has money then she is a target. If I were her I would run for my life. First of all this life is build on the willingnes of one to give power to another. There are no laws that I know of in any situation where someone owns another. Yes power or attorney gives a person certain rights as to pay bills and manage a estates and so on but  nothing over a person's own needs unles they are incapaciated becasue of a accident or illness and unable to perform certain daily living tasks for themselves. We all need to understand when someone tries things such as he is that is a sure sign or a RED FLAG. I find it more amazing everyday how some will come up with the crap to try to control another. We live in a free society and we live in a life we choose but we also must be aware of our own safety. If I were her  I would have run a long time ago and reported the fool to the local authorities. One point  and then no more  she is wrong about the trust. If she allows someone to have power of attorney over her and he goes to court  he has all rights to ammend the documents to his beneffit and she will have no say so. YES it is true, very true but one other thing power of attorney ends at time of death. So if he gets all things done then she is of no more usefullness to him and her life may be in danger

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:08:39 AM   
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actually and truthfully Sir,

i make this thread with the hope i would be able to have an open honest private conversation with those who have experienced something even remotely close to it.

i have a very curious mind and have the desire to know as much as i can. Too, i wanted info that did not have Masters slant on it. i have many cats to kill from all my curiosities.

but thank You none the less Sir

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If you are here making this post then you know in your heart something is not right! No, I am not flaming you.  Just pointing yourself out to yourself.  I'm just holding up the mirror for you!

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:08:41 AM   
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The only thing you will be giving up is what you are "willing" to part with...End of the story.

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:11:49 AM   
slavequery


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well Sir, i can feel for You in Your thoughts.

but it is clear to me You have not read all the thread. with this said

i wish You well

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:17:53 AM   
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No, actually it is very germane to the conversation, if you are willing to part with your money than so be it. If you are willing to part with consent the choice is yours...No one can force you into these situations, you have to agree to them.  When the time comes you can always opt out...And whatever is left of your funds,dignity, mind and body is yours to keep.

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:23:15 AM   
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please read the thread....you will find your own answers. i shant repeat myself for you

omega


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No, actually it is very germane to the conversation, if you are willing to part with your money than so be it. If you are willing to part with consent the choice is yours...No one can force you into these situations, you have to agree to them.  When the time comes you can always opt out...And whatever is left of your funds,dignity, mind and body is yours to keep.

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:30:28 AM   
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She isn't talking about legal slavery but about "legal guadianship" of someone which does occur in the US. In this case it would her owner seeking legal gardianship of her. I agree she needs to speak to her owner and possibly sit down with him and his attorney to learn how the process works.



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The kind of "papers" you are describing would not be legal here in the U.S. No one can willingly become a true complete slave to another.

But you are asking for legal advice about the laws of Canada. You are not going to find your answers here. I personally think your Master is not being honest with you, as I cannot imagine legal slavery would be allowed in Canada any more than the U.S.

If you really want an answer, you need to get off of this forum, and consult an attorney on your own.

Namaste, Sir Dominic



This may be the route for her to go.  I am going to express my doubts about this one area...it may be one thing for daddysprop to have had legal guardianship taken of her by her Master because of her history of mental illness but so far, slavequery has not expressed a history of mental or physical debility that would require another taking control.  And as I noted in my previous post to her, from what I can understand of the circuitous legal mumble-jumble of the laws in Canada and the U.S., it is going to take more than his doctor's say-so...and difficulty arises regarding the ethics of a doctor or a lawyer who will state that someone should be under legal guardianship of another when there is no proveable need ...physical or mental...other than "he and I want this".

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 11:54:15 AM   
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I never suggested it was actually the same but it is possible to do. We are not talking about owning someone but about legal guardianship, which does occur in the US, you can fake mental illness pretty damn good, you could fake it enough to pass this off before a judge and a couple shrinks...remember it isn't like they are trying to prove competence to stand trial..the scrutiny isn't as in depth.

I don't get the need for exactly this, there are other ways. My owner is an attorney and there are plenty of legal ways to tie people up in contracts and financial notes and debts etc. I have discussed legal guardianship with him, I work with psych patients, I could easily fake it enough but I have a son and career I love, I would lose custody of my son to my ex(who is a shitball) and probably not be able to work in my field as an RN, so it just doesn't offer any benefit.
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She isn't talking about legal slavery but about "legal guadianship" of someone which does occur in the US. In this case it would her owner seeking legal gardianship of her. I agree she needs to speak to her owner and possibly sit down with him and his attorney to learn how the process works.



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The kind of "papers" you are describing would not be legal here in the U.S. No one can willingly become a true complete slave to another.

But you are asking for legal advice about the laws of Canada. You are not going to find your answers here. I personally think your Master is not being honest with you, as I cannot imagine legal slavery would be allowed in Canada any more than the U.S.

If you really want an answer, you need to get off of this forum, and consult an attorney on your own.

Namaste, Sir Dominic



This may be the route for her to go.  I am going to express my doubts about this one area...it may be one thing for daddysprop to have had legal guardianship taken of her by her Master because of her history of mental illness but so far, slavequery has not expressed a history of mental or physical debility that would require another taking control.  And as I noted in my previous post to her, from what I can understand of the circuitous legal mumble-jumble of the laws in Canada and the U.S., it is going to take more than his doctor's say-so...and difficulty arises regarding the ethics of a doctor or a lawyer who will state that someone should be under legal guardianship of another when there is no proveable need ...physical or mental...other than "he and I want this".


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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:05:35 PM   
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I never suggested it was actually the same but it is possible to do. We are not talking about owning someone but about legal guardianship, which does occur in the US, you can fake mental illness pretty damn good, you could fake it enough to pass this off before a judge and a couple shrinks...remember it isn't like they are trying to prove competence to stand trial..the scrutiny isn't as in depth.

I don't get the need for exactly this, there are other ways. My owner is an attorney and there are plenty of legal ways to tie people up in contracts and financial notes and debts etc. I have discussed legal guardianship with him, I work with psych patients, I could easily fake it enough but I have a son and career I love, I would lose custody of my son to my ex(who is a shitball) and probably not be able to work in my field as an RN, so it just doesn't offer any benefit.
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She isn't talking about legal slavery but about "legal guadianship" of someone which does occur in the US. In this case it would her owner seeking legal gardianship of her. I agree she needs to speak to her owner and possibly sit down with him and his attorney to learn how the process works.



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ORIGINAL: SirDominic

The kind of "papers" you are describing would not be legal here in the U.S. No one can willingly become a true complete slave to another.

But you are asking for legal advice about the laws of Canada. You are not going to find your answers here. I personally think your Master is not being honest with you, as I cannot imagine legal slavery would be allowed in Canada any more than the U.S.

If you really want an answer, you need to get off of this forum, and consult an attorney on your own.

Namaste, Sir Dominic



This may be the route for her to go.  I am going to express my doubts about this one area...it may be one thing for daddysprop to have had legal guardianship taken of her by her Master because of her history of mental illness but so far, slavequery has not expressed a history of mental or physical debility that would require another taking control.  And as I noted in my previous post to her, from what I can understand of the circuitous legal mumble-jumble of the laws in Canada and the U.S., it is going to take more than his doctor's say-so...and difficulty arises regarding the ethics of a doctor or a lawyer who will state that someone should be under legal guardianship of another when there is no proveable need ...physical or mental...other than "he and I want this".



I never said we were talking about legal ownership.  It is well stated in my paragraph above...a couple of times...that we are speaking of guardianship. 
 
That said...look at what you yourself stated would have to be done, if slavequery is fully functional physically and mentally, to be judged not to be.  She would have to fake/lie about/practice deception about her real condition in order to satisfy what she and her master seem to really want = complete ownership and control.
Tell me...if she lies well enough to accomplish this but then gets found out some day...how many laws do you suppose the courts will bring to bear on her, her master, and quite possibly the doctors and lawyers who were deceived or who...if not deceived...circumvented the laws governing legal guardianship?

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:21:03 PM   
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Fine.  Althought there is sarcasm, there is also truth...Either way it seems you don't like the answers given....It seems you wanted people to get excited about you signing over your life....Any power you give to your Dom is originated between your ears....Nowhere else is that power recognized or honored or upheld....Move on now.


what i disagree with you is your seemingly coarse disregard for another's choice in lifestyle and your demeaning verbal descriptions of such. i think it is rude and counter productive.

you have to right to think and feel and believe as you choose. i wish you happiness. just please dont tear others lifestyles apart. you only have the right to tear your own lifestyle apart.

there is a huge difference between negative productive comments and negative counterproductive comments....think about this next time you think your handing out a helping hand.

and what is most shocking of all......you are so threatened by my truth, you have to resort to name calling . How mature of you. sad sad sad

shame shame shame


As much as I can be sarcastic, it is not about tearing down your "lifestyle."  Since the term "slave" has no legal meaning as does any "gaurdianship" in your particular case. The meaning is strictly what is "internalized" by you.   The fact of this "lifestyle" is that the Dom can actually on control what the sub/slave has chosen to relinquish...Which does lead to the question of who, when it is all said and done, holds the actual "power."

These are the "truths." I don't find them threatening, in fact many choose not to acknowledge them at all, as if they don't exist. Only you, and you alone, will allow what is going to happen to you. No one can force you and if they do well then that becomes a non consentual act and there are prisons built for those who choose to partake in these types of actions.

Whatever decisions you make regarding your relationship are like all other things, you will have to initially live with the ramifications of those choices but nothing is written in stone.

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:21:55 PM   
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im going to sit back and wait to learn anything you can share with me.

anything your Master is willing to share with me. Is it possible for Him to get any legal information with regards to Canadian law?

thank you in advance

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:29:13 PM   
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One of your original questions was - if i remember correctly - asked what he intended to "do with you" after all was said and done and this deal was sealed.  Even if he does get this guardianship of you, he is still accountable under laws to be judicial in his guardianship and take care of you, he can't abuse his power, he is accountable - guardianship doesn't give one free reign.  Also he is still bound by all the other laws. He cannot keep you prisoner, he can't maim you, rape you, set you on fire etc.... You don't give up your rights as a human being to be protected under the law just because you are under someones guardianship legally. 

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:34:31 PM   
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you make wonderfully valid points.

what CreativeD and BeingC has peaked in me is the question as to just how He is going to achieve this "guardianship" as i am currently sound of mind and body. i dont think i could ever lie. i dont wish to even start with a lie. so i will sit and watch for what unfolds.

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One of your original questions was - if i remember correctly - asked what he intended to "do with you" after all was said and done and this deal was sealed.  Even if he does get this guardianship of you, he is still accountable under laws to be judicial in his guardianship and take care of you, he can't abuse his power, he is accountable - guardianship doesn't give one free reign.  Also he is still bound by all the other laws. He cannot keep you prisoner, he can't maim you, rape you, set you on fire etc.... You don't give up your rights as a human being to be protected under the law just because you are under someones guardianship legally. 

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:48:55 PM   
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Honestly, probably none. Found out by who? Prosecuted for what? Fraud? maybe..and it is a BIG maybe ...I could only see there being government involvement if they applied for some type of services...medicare/medicaid..whatever the canadian equivalent is for Social Security disability( or whatever the canadian equivalent is)...barring doing any of those things who is going to *prosecute* her for working with someone to gain guardianship...if anything it probably calls her comptence more into question not less.  I just can't see a situation in which the government would get involved unless they were taking cash from the government. I can't imagine a DA wanting to touch prosecuting her for faking incompetence just to allow somene to have guardianship, not to defraud the government or anyone else out of money, for no other reason then a personal thing between them.

She would have to fake it, unless she isn't competent. We don't know if she is or isn't, that is for a court to decide. If they want to take their chances and try to do this, I'm missing what the big deal is, they are not hurting anybody. People tie up our court system resoures for far more insignificant and mundane crap everyday.

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Tell me...if she lies well enough to accomplish this but then gets found out some day...how many laws do you suppose the courts will bring to bear on her, her master, and quite possibly the doctors and lawyers who were deceived or who...if not deceived...circumvented the laws governing legal guardianship?


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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:53:14 PM   
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My owner is not a family/probate attorney and isn't well-versed in canadian family/probate laws. Discuss this with your owner ask him how he plans to achieve this. Call a family and probabte lawyer out of the yellow pages and ask how someone could gain legal guardianship over a person.

As far as this issue there is nothing I can offer because there is no legal guardianship over me. I don't see what the big deal is however. If you have issues you need resolved this message board can't resolve them for you.

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im going to sit back and wait to learn anything you can share with me.

anything your Master is willing to share with me. Is it possible for Him to get any legal information with regards to Canadian law?

thank you in advance


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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 12:55:34 PM   
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thank you for your time none the less

after thinking about your statement for a time....there really is no "big deal". .other than curiosity. There is love and trust and the foundation for the relationship.

what i think i need most is sleep.

night folks

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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

My owner is not a family/probate attorney and isn't well-versed in canadian family/probate laws. Discuss this with your owner ask him how he plans to achieve this. Call a family and probabte lawyer out of the yellow pages and ask how someone could gain legal guardianship over a person.

As far as this issue there is nothing I can offer because there is no legal guardianship over me. I don't see what the big deal is however. If you have issues you need resolved this message board can't resolve them for you.

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im going to sit back and wait to learn anything you can share with me.

anything your Master is willing to share with me. Is it possible for Him to get any legal information with regards to Canadian law?

thank you in advance



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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 1:08:36 PM   
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slavequery
thank you for your time none the less

after thinking about your statement for a time....there really is no "big deal". .other than curiosity


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I believe this is another rediculous CM thread, a legal gaurdian has to petition the court and prove why the person needs a "gaurdian" If you are not of sound mind or are unable to take care of yourself (spend thrift) etc.. Any papers drawn up could easily be reversed by you at anytime in the future if you can prove that you are able to take care of yourself......Hardly binding...Rediculous


See I told you....but you wouldn't listen....man that guy is pretty smart.

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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 1:26:17 PM   
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One of your original questions was - if i remember correctly - asked what he intended to "do with you" after all was said and done and this deal was sealed.  Even if he does get this guardianship of you, he is still accountable under laws to be judicial in his guardianship and take care of you, he can't abuse his power, he is accountable - guardianship doesn't give one free reign.  Also he is still bound by all the other laws. He cannot keep you prisoner, he can't maim you, rape you, set you on fire etc.... You don't give up your rights as a human being to be protected under the law just because you are under someones guardianship legally. 


Here are excerpts from a link I found while googling Adult Guardianship and Canada that support these statements:

http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/stat/A/96006_01.htm



"abuse" means the deliberate mistreatment of an adult that causes the adult
(a) physical, mental or emotional harm, or
(b) damage to or loss of assets,
and includes intimidation, humiliation, physical assault, sexual assault, overmedication, withholding needed medication, censoring mail, invasion or denial of privacy or denial of access to visitors;


Guiding principles
2  This Act is to be administered and interpreted in accordance with the following principles:
(a) all adults are entitled to live in the manner they wish and to accept or refuse support, assistance or protection as long as they do not harm others and they are capable of making decisions about those matters;
(b) all adults should receive the most effective, but the least restrictive and intrusive, form of support, assistance or protection when they are unable to care for themselves or their assets;
(c) the court should not be asked to appoint, and should not appoint, decision makers or guardians unless alternatives, such as the provision of support and assistance, have been tried or carefully considered.
Presumption of capability
3  (1)  Until the contrary is demonstrated, every adult is presumed to be capable of making decisions about personal care, health care, legal matters or about the adult's financial affairs, business or assets.
(2)  An adult's way of communicating with others is not grounds for deciding that he or she is incapable of making decisions about anything referred to in subsection (1).


If you are capable of making your own decisions, then this does not appear to be legal.  It is my opinion that choosing not to make your own decisions does not warrent involving the government of Canada into your personal lives.  Once you have invited them in, they are duty bound to now protect someone who is legally declared incapable of managing their own affairs.  

From the definition of abuse within the Adult Guardian document from BC, Canada many of the things we do in BDSM would be considered abusive.  Restricting your access to outside contacts would be abusive.  Branding you would be abusive.  Hitting you would be abusive.  Brainwashing you would be abusive.  If someone were to inform the Canadian government that they thought you were being abused, they would have to investigate and he would not have the defense that you consented because you have been legally declared incapable of providing consent.


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RE: on the topic of consenting to non-consent - 3/16/2007 1:36:35 PM   
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i am well known on these boards. So as to maintain my anonymity, i chose to open this account.
this is a very serious topic, and the query is very real for me.


Here comes the query. He wants to move into total control over me. i have no problem with this as it was something i have always wanted. He and i discussed long long ago His desires to do this and i consented willingly to this.

.......to give him control over my mind soul body spirit. i have always longed for this, so i have no trouble with this.

He has always been very open with me prior to embarking on any change He makes with me. i love this about Him.

Last night, He informed me He will be starting a form of brainwashing where any contact i will have with the outside world will be solely at His discretion. ok. That He is having papers drawn up with a lawyer that gives Him power of attorney over me. ok, still no problem here. He is also having papers drawn up giving all control over my physical being for the length of my natural life. ok, still no problem here. He explained to me, that in Canada, under the mental health laws, once these papers have been entered into court of law, they are final.

In essence, should i ever "run" from Him for any reason, He simply has to pick up the phone and have me returned to Him.

Believe it or not, i still have no problem with this. But my query is; it there any of you out in CM land who is aware of just what Master is planning on doing? i have tried googling and can not seem to find much info. i just want to be well informed about what is about to happen to me.

my time on the computer will be cut off in a few days....remember, Master will gain control over every aspect of outside contact i will have. So please hurry with your responses and info.

For those of you who wish to flame me or my Master, remember please that this is something i want, and am walking into willingly. Soon very soon over the next few months i will enter into complete servitude.


You're intial post says that you are happy, willing, have open eyes, discussed his desire to do this, long ago.... and you consented to it.

You further say you have no problem with any of it, yet urging replies with *please hurry..etc*.

It just appears that you've consented to something before you've gathered the information you might like to have had.

I don't think your situation is weird, far-fetched or outlandish in any way......I'd do it without a qualm in my own situation....but not without being *well-informed* .....which, in one breath, you say you are.

Either you are or you aren't.

agirl







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