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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/25/2007 3:05:15 AM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		ok now im so dam confused  TeeGo   if your forecd . but you can leave ??? how are you forced into denial if you loved and adore this person how is that forecd . or do i not understand this . you say you where collared did you honestly want the collaring ???   or did only agree to it to be closer too this person ....i hope im not the only one who saw this and is a little confused ?  may its just tooearly and my brain istn working rite ill re-read it again

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/25/2007 8:59:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: iwearpanties

ok now im so dam confused TeeGo if your forecd . but you can leave ??? how are you forced into denial if you loved and adore this person how is that forecd . or do i not understand this . you say you where collared did you honestly want the collaring ??? or did only agree to it to be closer too this person ....i hope im not the only one who saw this and is a little confused ? may its just tooearly and my brain istn working rite ill re-read it again


As I said in my original post. We are having a failure to communicate. Let's add some words. What you are talking about is "forced against your will." What I'm talking about is "consensually forced." That's a D/s thing. For instance, one could never be a slave, in the strictest sense of the word, unless they were captured and held against their will. Yet in the D/s community we use the Mistress-Master/slave all the time without confusing anyone. But when we talk forced, it gets confusing.

Let me explain again. These particular activities are NOT anything I would ever choose to do on my own, nor are they something I want her to choose for me to do. In submitting to the collar, I put myself in a position that I am forced to do things against my will because it's what she wants me to do. That is consensual, but it is still forcing.

If somebody had a gun to your head telling you to do something or die. In the strictest sense it's still not being forced. You have a choice, you could let them kill you. But instead since you would rather live, you agree to do the thing. Same thing in D/s except the agreeing stems from the commitment to the Dom/me.

I hope that helps.

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/26/2007 8:59:11 PM   
puckjames


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Status: offline 		This is a turn on for me.  I'm not sure where "forced" comes into play (unless a bunch of roudy women held me down, stripped me, and put panties on me.....yum)  but if both parties are turned on by it, there's no real forcing, is there?  I think the idea of "forced" comes from the crossdresser who doesn't want or is not turned on by the act of crossdressing.

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/27/2007 10:31:52 AM   
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This is a turn on for me.  I'm not sure where "forced" comes into play (unless a bunch of roudy women held me down, stripped me, and put panties on me.....yum)  but if both parties are turned on by it, there's no real forcing, is there?  I think the idea of "forced" comes from the crossdresser who doesn't want or is not turned on by the act of crossdressing.


Think again. When people make statement that tells me that person doesn't understand D/s or true submission.  I have never been FF, don't ever want to be either. Am however unsure what my Mistress will do, but I just don;t see it. I'm not that type.

Anyway, It seems everywhere I turn on here are people that don't get it. I had a long hard struggle with true submission.  I had to come to grips with things I hated and considered hard limits if I wanted to wear the collar.  I go through all that, come out the other side enlightened, and run into this crap.

I'm talking true submission.  Not topping from the bottom.  I guess it's true what many of the Domme's say, true subs are few.

Maybe it's true for you. But what's true for me is giving up control to the woman I love. I find fulfillment in that.  I trust her completely and if she wants to take me in a direction, I will go because I am her slave.

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/27/2007 4:32:57 PM   
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Congratulations TeeGO. I hope you post about your experiences here and offer the the rest of us some insight from the malesub perspective.

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/27/2007 4:36:03 PM   
puckjames


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Status: offline 		Your right.  I do not know about true submission.  When I submit, it is only during the act.  When we (the top and bottom) finish the act, we will once again just be ourself's.

Even as I put it this way, it is still hard to explain.  I am always my self, even when engaging in a bondage game.

but it does put into perspective that I do not know about true submission.  In the way you have put it, the "forced" part is there.  And it can be because there is an element of trust.  I admire that.

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/27/2007 8:29:10 PM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		i can fully understand it all i too as a sub seeked toobe femmed by a Mistress i at some point even fantasized about submitting tooa male Dom and being forced toobe a girly/ sisy for him .. i know as a sub it get are juices riseing and are wants too grow too submitt Tee go  do you still srev now or are you an unowned slave/sub

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/27/2007 8:37:42 PM   
MissSCD


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Status: offline 		While I agree that one can be forced into feminazation by some "Dommes", it is my own personal belief that the individual chooses to go into this relationship and should know from the beginning what is to be expected of them.

Regards, MissSCD

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/28/2007 9:32:35 PM   
TeeGO


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quote:

ORIGINAL: puckjames

Your right.  I do not know about true submission.  When I submit, it is only during the act.  When we (the top and bottom) finish the act, we will once again just be ourself's.

Even as I put it this way, it is still hard to explain.  I am always my self, even when engaging in a bondage game.

but it does put into perspective that I do not know about true submission.  In the way you have put it, the "forced" part is there.  And it can be because there is an element of trust.  I admire that.

Well said, thank you. I might have sounded a bit testy after reading posts in other threads. Sorry about that.

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RE: Forced Feminization - 3/29/2007 9:11:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just a personal note.... Teego, Congratulations on your collaring.  My best wishes to you and your Mistress.

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/4/2007 4:24:45 AM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		what a lucky subby ... i wish you all the best hopefully some day ill  be as lucky as you are ???/

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/21/2007 6:12:28 AM   
tamponpig


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Status: offline 		to me it not forced if my domme want to dress me this way i would do it at once

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/21/2007 7:38:55 AM   
lily84


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Status: offline 		Dear,
I love this topic since feminization's one of my fav. Most of slaves need to be forced for feminization unless  they already have woman blood. But i think once he's your property, he'll be willing to do anything for your pleasure.
I have talents for feminizing a man that i have done so many times in my life.And can you imagine that after i had dressed them like a woman ,with make-up as well, i took him out and we'd get another guy by his look? It was quite fun
When all's about pleasure, limit shouldnt be a problem
Regards,

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/21/2007 7:43:08 AM   
tamponpig


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Status: offline 		thankyou iam glad you enjoy this as i think it great to being taken out this way

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/21/2007 10:12:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		LadyPact--you always have the greatest responses! What a wickedly fertile mind! I believe that "enforced feminization" or "enforced homo/bisexuality" are better terms because they remove the brutal or violent connotation of "forced" and instead bring to mind thoughts of rules, of law, backed by the sting of the whip. If enforced fem is what Momma wants, then it's what Momma gets!

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/21/2007 10:47:35 AM   
MzMia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaboundcd

I constantly get letters from male submissives, which state that they are into forced fenminization. The thing that I question is, "Is it really forced, if they actually want it to be done to them?"  In my opinion, forced fem is something which someone might do to a sub who had no interest in the topic. I'm just curious as to Other's opinions on this topic.
                     .......Yours, Veronica


IMHO, force is not forced when someone ASKS for it.
You can not force the willing.
I am going to FORCE myself to eat pizza and have wine tonight, I love pizza and wine!
Someone, someone PLEASE force me to eat and do the things I crave and love!
 

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/21/2007 11:32:55 AM   
tamponpig


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Status: offline 		idont think its  forced when you love it like me

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/21/2007 5:31:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PonyPaul

LadyPact--you always have the greatest responses! What a wickedly fertile mind! I believe that "enforced feminization" or "enforced homo/bisexuality" are better terms because they remove the brutal or violent connotation of "forced" and instead bring to mind thoughts of rules, of law, backed by the sting of the whip. If enforced fem is what Momma wants, then it's what Momma gets!


Thank you pony, for the compliment on the response.  Always glad to hear someone is seeing things My way!     *Laughs*

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/22/2007 4:22:21 AM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		i have too say as a sub male i too have asked for forced femiing but knows its some thing i did to my self so long ago .. maybe for some of us we just truely need too stand before a MIstress or Master and confess what we realy are and need as subs  if wearing panties and knowing its your place weather in paly time or in 24/7 i know for my self i wear panties more then half the day! One there made diffrent there smaller then male underware  there sexyier (LOL)  and the fabrics feel so DAM good and the colors and printsand flowery desing and things they  are more fem then male plain briefs or boxers  also i think is knowing your wearing and your mind is wondering do others know or can they see what im wearing and or being caught wearing them.. i think also too many fantsays have been written on forced femming and things  so many sub in there mind start too feel the Mistresses want this and are willing too do it to them..for me ive had many experiances in subbing and crossdressing and ive loved every mintue i have ......ill shall but didnt want you all reading a book like ive written here so far ...

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RE: Forced Feminization - 4/22/2007 4:51:06 AM   
tamponpig


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Status: offline 		i agree as i wear them 24/7 the feeling i get when i wear them is great

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