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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Mixie, it could also be part of the natural cycle of heating and cooling we know the earth goes through, we are technically still in the last ice age. It could also be because of a change in the Sun... Mars, Venus and Jupiter also appear to be heating up.  It could be that we are in a slightly less dense region of space so more heat hits us.  It could be that the Earth was naturally warming( we know it was hotter around 800-2000 years ago) and a couple of huge Volcanoes caused a temporary colling effect( We actually know this to be true) and as it wears off the temps shoot back up.  It could be a combination of these things along with Mans Co2 output.  Or the Co2 could be up because of the natural warming.  It is apperantly not a safe enough assumption for Gore to get a smaller home

So the question is what do we do about it.  From the Kyoto treaty we can plainly see that the World and Scientists do not consider it a real problem, or else they would not exempt large portions of the globe.  All Kyoto will do is move industry to the exempt places( China, India, Africa) faster, increasing the CO2 and other actually harmfull pollution.   So the supporters of Kyoto (who all have clear Political reasons for supporting)  seem to put other goals above actually lowering Greenhouse gas emmisions, to me indicates they do not consider it to be a serious threat.

That being said, by all means, lets get greener energy.  Quit wasting time and energy on the Net, get a part time job and put a windmill on your roof, oh wait thats work and not as fun as being an activist.  Not sexy at all.  There are many good reasons to convert and conserve with out the nonsene of Kyoto.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Look at the thing that the scammers latched onto.
That's the one thing that they CAN make money off of!

Popeye,
There are many more than one. Investment firms are geared up to offer a large range of stocks in companies perceived as "green". 

I'm into about a 1/2 dozen stocks in the rapidly expanding "green industry" sector. Sold off all the "sub prime" financial companies in November after the election and as a result I'm up nearly $100k. Thinking about buying a big 8 cylinder Hummer with the profits.

I know it is small potatoes compared to Mr. Gore and his boys, but the 'crumbs' are very satisfying and appreciated. Hope that the head bobbing continues!

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Mix, "what if?"
Look at the things that Luckydog pointed out.
The problem for the charletons and scammers is that they can't make money off of those things that he mentioned.
Look at the thing that the scammers latched onto.
That's the one thing that they CAN make money off of!
Cooincidence?

Mix, "what if?"
That's a classic Sales pitch too!
"But I don't need insurance."
"What if you had no life insurance and died and your family had to sell the house?" (That's called "overcomming an objection")
"Would you want that to happen?" ("Porcupine!")
"Well,.....no."
"I didn't think so, so now I can HELP you." ("Closing")
Of course the odds of that happening are something like  1 in 2,000 or whatever so you can see why insurance companies make *so much money*!
What I'm saying is that I see that same "Sales Pitch" from the "global warming" scammers and charletons.
In business the *REALLY BIG* money isn't made by engineers, accountants etc but by the SALES PEOPLE!
Mix, think about it, if someone is trying to SELL you something what's the usual reason for that?

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Mixie, it could also be part of the natural cycle of heating and cooling we know the earth goes through,

This is a major part of the reason why you're not going have consensus because so few people are willing to actually entertain both sides of the issue. Of the few that do, they're considered "extremists" on the other side, depending upon which side the critic is that makes the claim.

Bravo.

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ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER

WOW for the first time I get to disagree with mix.
Sorry girl, I just dont buy into it.

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ORIGINAL: Tristan

Without fossil fuels, global warming will no longer be a problem, but being stuck on a planet that can not longer support it's population will be a problem.  Yeah, there are a lot of unknowns like exactly how much nuclear fuel is available or if fussion will ever be developed.  There is also time for us to try to slow the population explosion, but I just don't see any effort yet.

Tristan

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ORIGINAL: deadbluebird

Remember the hole in the ozone? Remember what caused it?
I just can't believe when i hear people say that humans can't effect the planet in any seriously harmful way.
To me when someone says that they must be completely insane.

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think hydrogen.

starts as water, splits into hydrogen and oxygen, burns and the waste is water!

no nuclear, hydrogen please!

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That ozone hole expands and contracts to let polution out of the atmosphere just like the hole on a tea kettle lets out heat and steam.

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ok maybe i was unclear in what i meant .
yes destroying the ozone can and will damage the earths ability to control its weather patterns etc


but my point is the planet as a whole cannot be destroyed by human carelessness
if we damage the earths current environment so that every living breathing thing on earth dies .... the earth will still be here . and in a few billion years it will probably manage to start the life cycle again