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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 4:27:55 PM   
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I doubt that we can ever rub out every living thing.  There will always be cockroaches to inherit the earth.


I always thought that it was the meek?


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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 4:58:19 PM   
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I always thought that it was the meek?

Only until the cockroaches are through eating them.

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 6:08:31 PM   
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think hydrogen.

starts as water, splits into hydrogen and oxygen, burns and the waste is water!

no nuclear, hydrogen please!


How are you going to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen in water?  I think that it is usually done with electricity.  We burn coal to generate electricity in order to break the oxygen - hydrogen bond.  There is no net energy gain with hydrogen.  It's just beats coal or coal oil as a source of fuel for cars.

Tristan


well you can make at home on the kitchen table if you like.  It generates far more energuy out than it takes to make it.  It will run engines wehave now with a few mods.

if you want to make it here is how:
http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/001.1/

New Hydrogen Fuel System Promises A New Generation Of Renewable Energy Science Daily — Northern Nevada energy consumers can be excused if they have a sense of "sticker shock" when their power bills come due following the holiday season. Or, that they have a feeling of powerlessness as the price of gasoline climbs to $3 per gallon.

They wonder: will the days of the $1 tank of gas ever return? Thanks to research done by a University of Nevada, Reno professor in the area of hydrogen energy generation, soaring power bills could become a thing of the past. And, finding a power source for your car that costs as little as $1 per gallon could also soon become a welcome reality. Manoranjan Misra, professor of materials science and engineering, recently received a $3 million research grant from the U.S. Department of Energy to continue his groundbreaking work in various forms of renewable energy. Misra's current project focuses on harnessing photoactive material from the sun to generate hydrogen. Hydrogen is one of the cleanest forms of energy, and studies have shown that it is 33 percent more efficient than liquid fuels. Northern Nevada, with its uncommonly sunny weather -- with more than 300 sunny days per year -- could become the perfect hub to generate hydrogen
energy, according to Misra. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070222180945.htm




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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 6:26:24 PM   
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ok maybe i was unclear in what i meant .
yes destroying the ozone can and will damage the earths ability to control its weather patterns etc


but my point is the planet as a whole cannot be destroyed by human carelessness
if we damage the earths current environment so that every living breathing thing on earth dies .... the earth will still be here . and in a few billion years it will probably manage to start the life cycle again


I doubt that we can ever rub out every living thing.  There will always be cockroaches to inherit the earth.



ya know what i think is funny?   i made a post about scalar weapons and remote viewing etc and in each case i think  maybe 5 people botherd to peek and see what it was... 

well h bombs are firecrackers compared to what we are playing with now.  and the ozone issues are small compared to what our new toys do to it...   In fact as soon as we get enough power for it we can easily split this planet right in 1/2...

yep i am nuts right?  well this technology is nothing new, its been around since the early 1900's in fact our government favored einstien to this guy because he wanted to give us free energy.  LOL 

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Have you noticed how it¹s not raining much again; how most of the weather fronts that have managed to come through this season have been dissipated and broken up? Have you noticed the occasional weird cloud shapes that appear with the few fronts that do manage to pass by? And how the jet stream has been forced North again? How high pressure ridges continue to dominate the Southwest?
http://www.rense.com/political/weapons/weather.htm


Oh yeh and ours is called haarp btw   :)
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

oh and btw they wont tell ya what this baby can all do :)  Just the good sales to the public pitch!   :)

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 7:07:51 PM   
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well you can make at home on the kitchen table if you like.  It generates far more energuy out than it takes to make it.  It will run engines wehave now with a few mods.

if you want to make it here is how:
http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/001.1/


It looks like electricity is needed to convert water into hydrogen and oxygen.  I noticed someone is using solar panals to generate the electricity.  This just means that hydrogen is being used to store energy from another source.  I'm sure there is an energy loss in the conversion process.  The problem remains that all of the renewable energy sources are diffuse, and we have too many people on the planet to provide the lifestyle we are used to.

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 7:10:17 PM   
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ya know what i think is funny?   i made a post about scalar weapons and remote viewing etc and in each case i think  maybe 5 people botherd to peek and see what it was... 

well h bombs are firecrackers compared to what we are playing with now.  and the ozone issues are small compared to what our new toys do to it...   In fact as soon as we get enough power for it we can easily split this planet right in 1/2...

yep i am nuts right?  well this technology is nothing new, its been around since the early 1900's in fact our government favored einstien to this guy because he wanted to give us free energy.  LOL 


What are scalar weapons and remote viewing?

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 9:06:15 PM   
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ya know what i think is funny?   i made a post about scalar weapons and remote viewing etc and in each case i think  maybe 5 people botherd to peek and see what it was... 

well h bombs are firecrackers compared to what we are playing with now.  and the ozone issues are small compared to what our new toys do to it...   In fact as soon as we get enough power for it we can easily split this planet right in 1/2...

yep i am nuts right?  well this technology is nothing new, its been around since the early 1900's in fact our government favored einstien to this guy because he wanted to give us free energy.  LOL 


What are scalar weapons and remote viewing?



for hydrogen the cost equivalent would be about a buck a gal of gas

scalar technology is startrek stuff from the early 1900's LOL

hard to believe, but you can see right through the earth and view objects etc  like in china for instance, you can form a vortex again through the earth shut the power off and there will be a near atomic explosion where the vortwx was..  like the matter antimatter stuff they talk about on startrek


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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/22/2007 11:15:12 PM   
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It seems to me that all of this talk on global warming is causing the most serious environmental problem (population explosion) from getting much attention.  We are in the process of putting 1 billion more people on this planet in a 12 year time period.  The population explosion is increasing at an exponetial rate.

The population explosion is fueled in part by the petrochemicals (fossil fuels) that are part of the green revolution.  It's hard to know exactly when we will have burned off all of fossil fuels, but it seems likely that it will be sometime near the end of this century. 

Without fossil fuels, global warming will no longer be a problem, but being stuck on a planet that can not longer support it's population will be a problem.  Yeah, there are a lot of unknowns like exactly how much nuclear fuel is available or if fussion will ever be developed.  There is also time for us to try to slow the population explosion, but I just don't see any effort yet.

Population collapses due to environmental degredation have occurred throughout history.  I don't see any reason to think that history will not repeat itself again this time on a global scale.  There is still hope, but I see no effort being made.

Tristan


Jared Diamond, in his book The Third Chimanzee, made a point that the shift in human food production from hunter / gatherer to agriculture allowed the rise of most of societies problems.  What I like about his works is that he makes cogent points, but he does not necessarily bash the opposition.

When we went from hunter gatherer societies where 10 acres could support a couple of people to an agricultural society that could support 100 people, we allowed for the development of professional armies, idle rich people screwing the underclasses, the growth of strata in social structures, etc.

I am not trying to trash your point, Tristan.  I posted elsewhere that if the planet is heating up and increased CO2 emissions contribute 2% to the problem, it might be worthwhile for people to figure out a way to stop adding that 2%.  I suspect most of the problem with the people who object to global warming studies is they follow the "Only One Cause" crowd.  Systems theory teaches that all aspects of a closed system interact with each other in ways that may or may not be understandable by the observer.

Or, as some Taoists say, shit happens.

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 12:41:45 AM   
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It seems to me that all of this talk on global warming is causing the most serious environmental problem (population explosion) from getting much attention.  We are in the process of putting 1 billion more people on this planet in a 12 year time period.  The population explosion is increasing at an exponetial rate.

The population explosion is fueled in part by the petrochemicals (fossil fuels) that are part of the green revolution.  It's hard to know exactly when we will have burned off all of fossil fuels, but it seems likely that it will be sometime near the end of this century. 

Without fossil fuels, global warming will no longer be a problem, but being stuck on a planet that can not longer support it's population will be a problem.  Yeah, there are a lot of unknowns like exactly how much nuclear fuel is available or if fussion will ever be developed.  There is also time for us to try to slow the population explosion, but I just don't see any effort yet.

Population collapses due to environmental degredation have occurred throughout history.  I don't see any reason to think that history will not repeat itself again this time on a global scale.  There is still hope, but I see no effort being made.

Tristan


Jared Diamond, in his book The Third Chimanzee, made a point that the shift in human food production from hunter / gatherer to agriculture allowed the rise of most of societies problems.  What I like about his works is that he makes cogent points, but he does not necessarily bash the opposition.

When we went from hunter gatherer societies where 10 acres could support a couple of people to an agricultural society that could support 100 people, we allowed for the development of professional armies, idle rich people screwing the underclasses, the growth of strata in social structures, etc.

I am not trying to trash your point, Tristan.  I posted elsewhere that if the planet is heating up and increased CO2 emissions contribute 2% to the problem, it might be worthwhile for people to figure out a way to stop adding that 2%.  I suspect most of the problem with the people who object to global warming studies is they follow the "Only One Cause" crowd.  Systems theory teaches that all aspects of a closed system interact with each other in ways that may or may not be understandable by the observer.

Or, as some Taoists say, shit happens.

Sinergy


well the human body produces what? at least 400 btu per hour while sittting on ones butt doing nothing and and about 1200 btu while working.  average that out say 800 btu per hour times another billion people thats 800 billion btu per hour more heating the planet.  with 6 billion now 1/6 is waay more than 2% of the heat of the present population...


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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 3:47:06 AM   
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I am not trying to trash your point, Tristan.  I posted elsewhere that if the planet is heating up and increased CO2 emissions contribute 2% to the problem, it might be worthwhile for people to figure out a way to stop adding that 2%.  I suspect most of the problem with the people who object to global warming studies is they follow the "Only One Cause" crowd.  Systems theory teaches that all aspects of a closed system interact with each other in ways that may or may not be understandable by the observer.


I'm not saying global warming is not a problem, I'm just wondering if it is the most serious problem we have as a species.  With the population doubling every 40 years or so, anything we do to reduce our impact becomes diminished quite rapidly.  Also, with the green revolution of the 20th century being based largely on petrochemicals to fuel machines, produce fertizers, herbicides, and pesticides, what is going to happen when we use up most of the petroleum?  We can produce all of these chemicals using plants, but that will mean fewer people can be fed.

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 3:55:17 AM   
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for hydrogen the cost equivalent would be about a buck a gal of gas

scalar technology is startrek stuff from the early 1900's LOL

hard to believe, but you can see right through the earth and view objects etc  like in china for instance, you can form a vortex again through the earth shut the power off and there will be a near atomic explosion where the vortwx was..  like the matter antimatter stuff they talk about on startrek


I have no doubt that hydrogen can be produced cheaper than gasoline.  The electricity to power a car the same distance as a gallon of gasoline costs about $0.70.  Hydrogen as a fuel source is much more efficient than gasoline.  Gasoline produces wasted heat, and hydrogen does not have this waste.  Hydrogen still comes from electricty produced from coal, which is a limited resource.  I doubt hydrogen can be produced for $1.00 a gallon if alternative energy like solar panels and windmills are used. 

Do you have a link for scalar technology.  I would be interested in seeing how it works.

Tristan

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 3:40:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tristan

It seems to me that all of this talk on global warming is causing the most serious environmental problem (population explosion) from getting much attention.  We are in the process of putting 1 billion more people on this planet in a 12 year time period.  The population explosion is increasing at an exponetial rate.

The population explosion is fueled in part by the petrochemicals (fossil fuels) that are part of the green revolution.  It's hard to know exactly when we will have burned off all of fossil fuels, but it seems likely that it will be sometime near the end of this century. 

Without fossil fuels, global warming will no longer be a problem, but being stuck on a planet that can not longer support it's population will be a problem.  Yeah, there are a lot of unknowns like exactly how much nuclear fuel is available or if fussion will ever be developed.  There is also time for us to try to slow the population explosion, but I just don't see any effort yet.

Population collapses due to environmental degredation have occurred throughout history.  I don't see any reason to think that history will not repeat itself again this time on a global scale.  There is still hope, but I see no effort being made.

Tristan


Jared Diamond, in his book The Third Chimanzee, made a point that the shift in human food production from hunter / gatherer to agriculture allowed the rise of most of societies problems.  What I like about his works is that he makes cogent points, but he does not necessarily bash the opposition.

When we went from hunter gatherer societies where 10 acres could support a couple of people to an agricultural society that could support 100 people, we allowed for the development of professional armies, idle rich people screwing the underclasses, the growth of strata in social structures, etc.

I am not trying to trash your point, Tristan.  I posted elsewhere that if the planet is heating up and increased CO2 emissions contribute 2% to the problem, it might be worthwhile for people to figure out a way to stop adding that 2%.  I suspect most of the problem with the people who object to global warming studies is they follow the "Only One Cause" crowd.  Systems theory teaches that all aspects of a closed system interact with each other in ways that may or may not be understandable by the observer.

Or, as some Taoists say, shit happens.

Sinergy


well the human body produces what? at least 400 btu per hour while sittting on ones butt doing nothing and and about 1200 btu while working.  average that out say 800 btu per hour times another billion people thats 800 billion btu per hour more heating the planet.  with 6 billion now 1/6 is waay more than 2% of the heat of the present population...

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Please review the theory of conservation of energy.
The heat p-roduced from the human body is generated because it was absorbed and stored in the food we eat, thus it was already here once and has mearly shifted forms a few hundred times.
Solar becomes plant becomes animal becomes plant becomes animal, It's a relatively closed loop.

Human bodies are not generating the heat out of nothing, they are generating it from the consumption of something that absorbed the energy directly or indirectly from the sun.

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 4:40:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hydrogen is a gas( for these purposes, it can be liquified but that is not what we are talking about), so it is not sold as a "gallon".  There are many inventive ideas for creating free hydrogen.  Using electrcity to split water is actually one of the least efficient ways of doing it.  One of the best existing ways is to seperate it catalytically from Natural Gas.  You still use a fossil fuel, but you get over twice as much usable energy from the same amount of gas, and produce much less pollution.   There are several differnt varities of catalytically creating hydrogen, and others that are more high tech( involving Plasmas in loops that produce more energy than they consume).  You might say, but you still have to feed a fuel into the plasma, but garbage and sewage can be used. 

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 6:12:17 PM   
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what if..................



leave it to your imagination


what if they end up being right? maybe not by the mode, but about the end result? what IF this time it is not a cycle [maybe part of, but then continues to exceed cyclic nature]


My usual comment, mixielicious, is what if this whole global warming thing has all sorts of perceived and studied or not perceived or not studied aspects which alter it in ways which follow rules of turbulence and chaotic systems?

Seems to me that if we dont fully understand it, it might be worthwhile to do things we do understand to mitigate risk factors until we do understand it.

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 8:48:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hydrogen should not be considered a fuel source, as it is not available freely and has to be produced.  It's more of an energy storage medium.  A battery. 

Best ways to get to a hydrogen based economy would be to come up with non-fossil fuel electrical generation.  My bets are on nuclear and solar.  Geothermal, tidal, wind, etc are all too localized (but still valuable).  Nuclear and solar can be done anywhere.  Solar especially after we start getting better efficiency out of solar panels.  And, it's "free". 

In my future vision most homes and buildings would have solar shingles or solar panels that would be used to power the building, convert water to hydrogen, and feed into the power grid.  The hydrogen would then be stored for fuel cell generation during darkness or heavy clouds and could also be used to fuel cars. And even sexier - get a space elevator going then put huge solar collectors in orbit, then beam the power back to earth.  But hey, I'm a dreamer.

At some point petrochemicals are going to become more valuable for things like plastics and other materials than simply burning for power.

Just in case my future vision doesn't occur, I'm stockpiling ammo and gas. 

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 8:52:31 PM   
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well the human body produces what? at least 400 btu per hour while sittting on ones butt doing nothing and and about 1200 btu while working.  average that out say 800 btu per hour times another billion people thats 800 billion btu per hour more heating the planet.  with 6 billion now 1/6 is waay more than 2% of the heat of the present population...



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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/23/2007 11:03:22 PM   
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if it is a hoax, please explain the before and after shots of polar ice caps, the himalayas and mt everest. if this is a hoax, why is melting occuring?

if you say they are global temperatures that are following a pattern, well that doesnt dispute the fact that we are in the 'warming' part of the curve.


for those of you who dont believe in global warming, i am interested in your explanations 


Why is melting occuring?

Melting is suppose to occur. It's how we have our natural rivers flowing from mountains down to our lakes and oceans. Snow forms and falls on top of the mountain. Weight and gravity cause the snow to eventually fall to where it can melt, form streams, evaporate, fall as snow, and begin the process all over again. It's an all natural process that's been occuring for thousands if not millions of years. 

Are we really in the warming part of the curve? Ocean temperatures were a little high in 2005. Katrina and Rita were devistating hurricanes. Global warming was blamed for these monsters. In 2006, where were the hurricanes? Ocean temperatures where a little cooler than expected. Global warming was to blame for this as well. So Global warming is why we have and don't have hurricanes.

Global Warming, fact or fiction? The earth has a history of times of cold and hot days. Ice Age, floods, droughts, dust bowls, and everything in between. We've had long and short winters. We've had hot and cool summers. Yes, Global Warming and Global Cooling are real. The fiction is to what's causing Global Warming and how it's now the "End of The World!"  

I've been hearing the sermon of The Scorching of Global Warming due to the Evils of Man for over twenty years now. After twenty years, I ask myself, "What's keeping this horrific event on planet earth from happening?" The sky is still blue, the grass is still green, my flowers are still blooming, and I still think to myself what a wonderful world. Where is the doom and gloom? Waiting for Global Warming to destroy us all is like waiting for Christ to return and the biblical rapture to take place.

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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/24/2007 1:00:03 PM   
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for hydrogen the cost equivalent would be about a buck a gal of gas

scalar technology is startrek stuff from the early 1900's LOL

hard to believe, but you can see right through the earth and view objects etc  like in china for instance, you can form a vortex again through the earth shut the power off and there will be a near atomic explosion where the vortwx was..  like the matter antimatter stuff they talk about on startrek


I have no doubt that hydrogen can be produced cheaper than gasoline.  The electricity to power a car the same distance as a gallon of gasoline costs about $0.70.  Hydrogen as a fuel source is much more efficient than gasoline.  Gasoline produces wasted heat, and hydrogen does not have this waste.  Hydrogen still comes from electricty produced from coal, which is a limited resource.  I doubt hydrogen can be produced for $1.00 a gallon if alternative energy like solar panels and windmills are used. 

Do you have a link for scalar technology.  I would be interested in seeing how it works.

Tristan


if solar panels are used as the cost of the solar panels divided by how many years of service that is the cost and that would be serioulsy cheap over 80 years say you buy them as a kid.  compressing and liquifying it is where the cost comes in other wise its only water.

SCALAR ELECTROMAGNETICS  "We first define scalar electromagnetics as the quantum mechanical effects and influences that can be accomplished by electrical and magnetic scalar potentials, even in the absence of electric and magnetic fields, or - in other words - that can occur even in otherwise zero-E (electric) and zero-B (magnetic) force-field regions. Note that this definition includes as subsets both the ordinary classical EM field approach and the more fundamental approach of quantum electrodynamics. In the latter approach, one replaces the fields E and B in modern theory with the O (electrostatic scalar potential) and A (magnetic vector potential), with the view that these potentials create E and B fields in the first place. The Bohm-Aharonov effect shows that the E and B fields can remain zero, and yet the potentials can still cause physical effects. http://www.svpvril.com/svpnotes/SCALAR_10564.html



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RE: if its a hoax, please explain - 3/24/2007 1:08:36 PM   
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Please review the theory of conservation of energy.
The heat p-roduced from the human body is generated because it was absorbed and stored in the food we eat, thus it was already here once and has mearly shifted forms a few hundred times.
Solar becomes plant becomes animal becomes plant becomes animal, It's a relatively closed loop.

Human bodies are not generating the heat out of nothing, they are generating it from the consumption of something that absorbed the energy directly or indirectly from the sun.



right but it is converting potential energy for all intents and purposes into kinetic energy which as a result creates or coverts to heat.


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