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Vendaval -> From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 2:33:22 PM)

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"Out of jail, into the Army"
 
"Facing an enlistment crisis, the Army is granting "waivers" to an increasingly high percentage of recruits with criminal records -- and trying to hide it."
 
By Mark Benjamin

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/02/02/waivers/index_np.html


"Even without the waivers, the Army has lowered its standards for enlistees. The Army has eased restrictions on recruiting high school dropouts. It also raised the maximum recruitment age from 35 to 39. Moreover, last fall the Army announced that it would be doubling the number of soldiers that it admits who score near the bottom on a military aptitude test.

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The story of that unnamed Air National Guard recruit (whose name is blacked out in his statement) is based on documents obtained by Salon under the Freedom of Information Act. It illustrates one of the tactics that the military is using in its uphill battle to meet recruiting targets during the Iraq war. The personnel problems are acute. The Air National Guard, for example, missed its recruiting target by 14 percent last year. And the regular Army missed its goal by 8 percent, its largest recruiting shortfall since 1979.




This is where waivers come in. According to statistics provided to Salon by the office of the assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, the Army said that 17 percent (21,880 new soldiers) of its 2005 recruits were admitted under waivers. Put another way, more soldiers than are in an entire infantry division entered the Army in 2005 without meeting normal standards. This use of waivers represents a 42 percent increase since the pre-Iraq year of 2000. (All annual figures used in this article are based on the government's fiscal year, which runs from Oct. 1 to Sept. 30. So fiscal year 2006 began Oct. 1, 2005.)

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" In short, the military's explanation seems a variant of Catch-22. Officials now admit that the Army waiver data originally given to Salon was contaminated with extraneous numbers, but the Army cannot comment on what its actual waiver percentage might be, since the Pentagon figures are so muddled. When told of these numbers games, Korb said, "I'm sure that somebody on Capitol Hill is going to demand the answers."
 
It is no secret to Congress that the Army, which is fighting the brunt of the war in Iraq, is facing a severe personnel crisis. A Pentagon-commissioned report by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments leaked last week warned that prolonged deployments and recruiting problems were "breaking" the Army. A chapter of that report, titled "A Recruiting and Retention Crisis?" goes so far as to say that the grind of war on the Army -- rather than any political imperatives from Washington -- will accentuate the pace of military withdrawal from Iraq. "
 
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Yet according to the waivers, just four days earlier the Air Guard's national headquarters had approved the enlistment of a California recruit who had been charged in October 2003 with "assault by means likely to produce great bodily injury." True, the recruit was a 17-year-old juvenile when he committed the crime for which he was later convicted, but that date was less than two years before he was admitted to the Air Guard.
 
Other examples from the Air Guard files suggest a wider problem:
 
  • After his parents filed a domestic-abuse complaint against him in 2000, a recruit in Rhode Island was sentenced to one year of probation, ordered to have "no contact" with his parents, and required to undergo counseling and to pay court costs. Air National Guard rules say domestic violence convictions make recruits ineligible -- no exceptions granted. But the records show that the recruiter in this case brought the issue to an Air Guard staff judge advocate, who reviewed the file and determined that the offense did not "meet the domestic violence crime criteria." As a result of this waiver, the recruit was admitted to his state's Air Guard on May 3, 2005.
     
  • A recruit with DWI violations in June 2001 and April 2002 received a waiver to enter the Iowa Air National Guard on July 15, 2005. The waiver request from the Iowa Guard to the Pentagon declares that the recruit "realizes that he made the wrong decision to drink and drive."
     
  • Another recruit for the Rhode Island Air National Guard finished five years of probation in 2002 for breaking and entering, apparently into his girlfriend's house. A waiver got him into the Guard in June 2005.
     
  • A recruit convicted in January 2004 for possession of marijuana, drug paraphernalia and stolen license-plate tags got into the Hawaii Air National Guard with a waiver little more than a year later, on March 3, 2005.
     
    Taken together, the troubling statistics from the Army and anecdotal information derived from the files of the Air National Guard raise a warning flag about the extent to which the military is lowering its standards to fight the war in Iraq. The president may be correct in his recent press conference boast that "we're transforming the military." But the abuse of recruiting waivers prompts the question: In what direction is this military transformation headed?"  




  • FirmhandKY -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 2:40:33 PM)

    So, what is the underlying message you'd like to send by posting this article, Ven?

    FirmKY




    mnottertail -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:03:34 PM)

    That I am increasingly right on that thread and you are increasingly wrong.............



    LOLOLOLOL.  Can't help it  FirmHand, I just ain't got no couth, sorry buddy.


    Ron




    WyrdRich -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:25:01 PM)

             I don't understand all the hubbub.  As soon as we give all the illegals amnesty, we can draft them...




    popeye1250 -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:27:54 PM)

    LOL, I guess we'll be seeing more Butt Pyramids now!
    "I came in under WAIVERS Muhammed, don't give me that Geneva Conventions crap!
    "Now get in that fuckin Butt Pyramid Allah Boy!"




    mnottertail -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:28:00 PM)

    Read his lips, there will be no draft.

    Too quick:

    it is in the process of outsourcing anyway, we aint throwing enough cannon fodder in there.

    Ron






    FukinTroll -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:30:59 PM)

     
    Personally I thought the military or prison options were quite productive. Stopped my Dad from making Moonshine... bastard still wont give me the recipe... and become a pro welder.




    WyrdRich -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:33:22 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: mnottertail

    Read his lips, there will be no draft.







           I see it like "Only Nixon could go to China," only the Dems can reinstate the draft.  We're gonna need it too.  Why do you think I'm hoping they'll get their heads out before we see a repeat of '72? 




    LadyEllen -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:33:33 PM)

    Hey, drafting the inmates of prisons into the army is a tried and tested methodology, you know?

    I mean, we built a worldwide empire that way

    E




    sub4hire -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:42:48 PM)

    We have a punk cousin..headed for prison.  They have been trying to draft him since his first offense a year ago.

    They have told him they would wipe his record and probation clean if he only joins up.

    It seems to me they did the same in vietnam?  So, nothing new. 




    mnottertail -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:49:14 PM)

    Oh, the waivers relaxations been done more than once, it isn't a new dog or trick.  Simply this, there WERE at one time or another obvious plusses to being in harm's way, especially in peacetime, so you can tighten up rules.  Hell, even then there were judges and cops (ex military usually) that would say, get the to a recruitery or this is jail and record--------

    Now that the war in the middle east has been found to have been gamed incorrectly, and as usual military thinking so far behind the times, since throwing metal works so well and there aint nobody can do it better than us, that the occupation and control and setting aright of beleaguered areas is really a political function, just like the starting of them, the military never games those correctly.  They plain don't give a fuck,  outside their realm.  So, I think that is one of the reasons that veterans especially scoff at an administration whos only martial experience is shooting their lawyer in the face while grouse hunting, and the CINC a man who couldn't be bothered to show up to do his bit, even in an incompetent fashion.

    So, we have KA FU CHI SUI --- but there is no KU (void) Oops, he said it again---- because there is no equivalence between ousting the Strongman Dictator Noreiga or kicking the shit out of a few sheep farmers or phone-it-ins in the small islands of the atlantic and this fuckin travesty right here.


    Thats my opinion.

    Ron




    WyrdRich -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 3:58:02 PM)

          And when gas is $6 a gallon and every construction worker in the country is out of work?

         Too many pacifists have never been punched in the face....




    KenDckey -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:02:30 PM)

    Judges used to put people in the military.   Many of them made great soldiers.




    domiguy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:05:06 PM)

    Couldn't we utilize the elderly or  the handicapped?  Social Security and Medicare are getting zapped...I say it time for the Greatest Generation to prove their worth just one more time!!!!  I wonder if the military has developed armor plated walkers?




    KenDckey -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:08:02 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: domiguy

    Couldn't we utilize the elderly or  the handicapped?  Social Security and Medicare are getting zapped...I say it time for the Greatest Generation to prove their worth just one more time!!!!  I wonder if the military has developed armor plated walkers?


    In all seriousness, I have always believed that the Military could use them and younger handicapped persons in some administrative jobs.  i.e.   I worked in transportation scheduling.   A major papershuffler  LOL  Doesn't take legs to do that.




    domiguy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:11:30 PM)

    Just like you conservatives to not allow the handicapped and the elderly to be  "all that they can be." 




    KenDckey -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:13:43 PM)

    I'm a conservative.   I want to put them to work.




    mnottertail -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:16:05 PM)

    Well then you are a class of conservative all by yourself, you'd be the only one that ain't looking to outsource.  




    KenDckey -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:22:31 PM)

    Outsource    Hell No.    I fought that when I worked for a city,   they wanted to eliminate my job and all my firends jobs and privitize it.   We proved that we could do it cheaper to the ratepayer, but even then bubba wanted us to be gone.




    caitlyn -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:23:18 PM)

    No offense intended, but articles like this make me think twice about Salon as a news source.
     
    In the University I attend, if you would have presented this information, without pointing out that in the American Civil War, entire brigades were made up of paroled convicts ... you would have been accused of incomplete, second rate research and promptly been given a low grade. If were lucky, the prof., might allow you to admit that you are stupid blonde fuckup, and give you a chance to rewrite the paper.




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