RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army"

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KenDckey -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:26:48 PM)
hey Cait I agree with you but I think people only want to hear what they want to hear.

domiguy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:27:37 PM)
Forget about the Illegals lets concentrate on the true plague of this nation which is "the elderly equation." We could save Medicaid as well as befuttle the enemy by having our cogitively impaired aimlessly wandering the Sunni Triangle.

KenDckey -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:29:28 PM)
No I've been to the mideast that wouldnt work I don't think.

FukinTroll -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:29:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: caitlyn No offense intended, but articles like this make me think twice about Salon as a news source. In the University I attend, if you would have presented this information, without pointing out that in the American Civil War, entire brigades were made up of paroled convicts ... you would have been accused of incomplete, second rate research and promptly been given a low grade. If were lucky, the prof., might allow you to admit that you are stupid blonde fuckup, and give you a chance to rewrite the paper. I can't quite figure if you are mad at Ven for posting it or made at the source for writing it?

mnottertail -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:31:42 PM)
Well, your professor is an ignorant dick then, and would be straining at gnats instead of considering the whales (and you are not a ditzy blonde, btw) since the point of the thread is that the services are not making recruiting goals, and this is one more sign of the desperate straits we find ourselves now contemplating. Had he pointed out that as always, when these waivers are instituted, as opposed to the quiet and illegal acts of cops and judges that something more than a general malaise is in the offing. Ron

caitlyn -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:33:18 PM)
I'm not mad at anyone. But, if I was an editor at Salon, that was even attempting to be acurate and complete, I would fire the person that wrote this article.

WyrdRich -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:35:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Forget about the Illegals lets concentrate on the true plague of this nation which is "the elderly equation." We could save Medicaid as well as befuttle the enemy by having our cogitively impaired aimlessly wandering the Sunni Triangle. You might be on to something here, Domi. When the Alzheimer's hits (at least in my family), they turn downright MEAN.

FukinTroll -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:36:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: caitlyn I'm not mad at anyone. But, if I was an editor at Salon, that was even attempting to be acurate and complete, I would fire the person that wrote this article. Ah... got it. Thanks.

caitlyn -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:38:13 PM)
I'm sorry Ron, but I just don't agree. Writing an an article concerning the lowering of recruiting standards, without even mentioning that the United States has nearly always done this in times of need ... is just incomplete, and poorly done work.

domiguy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:38:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WyrdRich quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Forget about the Illegals lets concentrate on the true plague of this nation which is "the elderly equation." We could save Medicaid as well as befuttle the enemy by having our cogitively impaired aimlessly wandering the Sunni Triangle. You might be on to something here, Domi. When the Alzheimer's hits (at least in my family), they turn downright MEAN. Too fucking funny!..

domiguy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:45:04 PM)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-03-02-army-goal_x.htm http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/14/us/14military.html?ex=1329109200&en=06c953182b1c51bb&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss Here are a couple of articles about not meeting recruitement goals and admitting those less than desirable. It's no fun reading those....But a complete company of Down Syndrome soldiers the elderly and the disoriented would be quite a sight.

FirmhandKY -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:45:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail That I am increasingly right on that thread and you are increasingly wrong............. LOLOLOLOL. Can't help it FirmHand, I just ain't got no couth, sorry buddy. That I am increasingly right on that thread and you are increasingly wrong............ about what, exactly, Ron? LOLOLOLOL. Can't help it FirmHand, I just ain't got no couth, sorry buddy But you are a pretty good thinker, and a funny poster, most of the time. I don't take things personal, Ron, even if I'm hitting back hard. We are both men, and used to whacking other men upside the head in that "half in jest, half in seriousness" way that men do. It's enjoyable crossing swords. FirmKY

Sinergy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:46:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy We could save Medicaid as well as befuttle the enemy by having our cogitively impaired aimlessly wandering the Sunni Triangle. At least it would give us the opportunity to repaint the White House and put new carpetting in a lot of Republican congressperson's offices. Sinergy

FirmhandKY -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:53:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: caitlyn No offense intended, but articles like this make me think twice about Salon as a news source. In the University I attend, if you would have presented this information, without pointing out that in the American Civil War, entire brigades were made up of paroled convicts ... you would have been accused of incomplete, second rate research and promptly been given a low grade. If were lucky, the prof., might allow you to admit that you are stupid blonde fuckup, and give you a chance to rewrite the paper. Damn cait! You are just too damn smart to be on the wrong side of the political equation! [:D] I was working on a stealth attack on the post, but you hit it head on! Kudos. If I set up a foundation to fight against bias and stupidity, could I get you to be part of it? I'd still like to know the underlying rational of why Ven posted this story. FirmKY

Sinergy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 4:59:14 PM)
("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?") "I went over to the sargent, said, "Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug." Arlo Guthrie said it best. Sinergy

mnottertail -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 5:02:18 PM)
no, stated in that fashion, I believe we are in concert. No disagreement with that whatsoever, they also did it in desperate times in all the other mother of all wars that we have been involved in, but how deep does that well run? Would you then have to comment that the US Government made deals with such as Lucky Luciano and so on, I mean where does it quit, but to mention in desperate times would be the case. Ron

caitlyn -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 5:03:23 PM)
I have no problem with Vendaval, or anyone else posting this story. She is anti-war, and that is her right. I was simply pointing out that you would get crushed if you submitted something like that, where I go to school. It's not inaccurate, but is very incomplete. I expect to be a college prof., some day, and if a student presented this to me, I would probably laugh them out of my class. So tell your grand kids ... don't take my classes ... because I'm a hard-ass. [;)]

domiguy -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 5:03:59 PM)
Caitlyn is a pretty sharp cookie and she would be perfect if I could get a few messages with a tit shot....Don't want to discriminate so I would welcome a "cock shot" from Firm or his brother Stern...Hand..as well.

FirmhandKY -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 5:08:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Caitlyn is a pretty sharp cookie and she would be perfect if I could get a few messages with a tit shot....Don't want to discriminate so I would welcome a "cock shot" from Firm or his brother Stern...Hand..as well. I'm afraid that there isn't a camera that has a wide-angle enough focus to get a complete "cock shot" of mine, domi. [:D] Ya know the story ... not only is it a long way down to the water .... the water is cold, as well. FirmKY

mnottertail -> RE: From Salon.com News - "Out of jail, into the Army" (3/23/2007 5:12:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail That I am increasingly right on that thread and you are increasingly wrong............. LOLOLOLOL. Can't help it FirmHand, I just ain't got no couth, sorry buddy. That I am increasingly right on that thread and you are increasingly wrong............ about what, exactly, Ron? in keeping the line of discourse on another thread, that the opinions of talking heads opinions do not qualify as fact, nor do the PR statements of the military, including those that claim to be awash in enlistments and poo poo the notion that they are in a dire situation. And everyone in support of this has fucked up tragically. LOLOLOLOL. Can't help it FirmHand, I just ain't got no couth, sorry buddy But you are a pretty good thinker, and a funny poster, most of the time. Thank you. I don't take things personal, Ron, even if I'm hitting back hard. We are both men, and used to whacking other men upside the head in that "half in jest, half in seriousness" way that men do. I am not taking it personal. It's enjoyable crossing swords. Agreed. FirmKY

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