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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 9:32:54 AM   
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**I am asking where folks place things like appreciating reading, and having things like "deep thoughts" and conversational ability, on their scale of "needs" from a partner. How do you rate these things, say, on a scale of 1-10?
 
 
For my intimate relationships I would rank it being the most importent trait; #1. It is not the amount of talking nor even the depth of the subject, passion about their pov, variety of interests, and an analytical nature play bigger parts than content.  I hate small talk and seek partners where we can be silent together too. Which imo is even harder than having a good conversation, alot of people can not manage silence with out it being awkward.
Even in casual partners or short term relationship it is their mind that creates the majority of the chemistry for me, especially with women. A sharp, quick mind and a great sense of humor (my standards of great anyway) will turn me on, more than any well endowed body part ever could.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 9:35:48 AM   
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Being able to hold a decent conversation about many things is an absolute must for me. I'm very attracted to intelligent men / women. A love of reading so we can share convos about them is a definate bonus, i love to read.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 9:46:54 AM   
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Having street smarts will only take you so far. You need intelligence beyond street smarts to move up beyond the street. There is street education, high school education and college education. Talk to one of each and see the difference. Used to be that all you needed was a high school education. No more. Technology has gone way beyond a high school education. Education or lack of it is probably why so many still seek in here.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 9:53:21 AM   
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As time moves on, most are drawn to those with a similar intellect. It is because you will connect on so many levels and feel most comfortable with someone similar. I could have brief flings with someone because of her looks, but I will seek out the one who understands my thoughts as I understand hers to hang around when all is said and done. The mindless beauty will tire me quickly, but never the sensitive writer/philosopher/poet/artist.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 11:03:20 AM   
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Having street smarts will only take you so far. You need intelligence beyond street smarts to move up beyond the street. There is street education, high school education and college education. Talk to one of each and see the difference. Used to be that all you needed was a high school education. No more. Technology has gone way beyond a high school education. Education or lack of it is probably why so many still seek in here.


Based upon this theory and my posting history here. Take a quick guess, then answer why you guessed such.......what do you guess my formal education level to be? Please be honest and remember that I do not allow anyone here the power to hurt or to anger me. I am only curious.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 11:13:02 AM   
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Susan to answer your question. I have two characteristics that are vital in a companion, humour and intelligence. That being said they also need to be without snobbishness or arrogance or it just ruins the whole package. They have to be able to laugh at themselves first.

If someone contacts me and only wants to discuss BDSM related topics little red flags pop up all over the place and I get very bored with them very quickly.

I prefer to discuss life and everything that brought them to the current point in life at the moment we are talking. What really matters to them. I like to laugh and to discuss interesting new topics. I love being around people that can teach me something, open my eyes and my mind. Give me a reason to say/think "hmmmmmm, I never thought about it like that before!"

Hardest of all I think, I want to find someone I can be quiet with. Maybe as hard, someone that can agree to disagree.


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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 11:26:27 AM   
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I'm educated beyond any reasonable standard of excellance and am looking to make a living from thinking deeply.  If you ask me, its a bit of a hoax, but if I can make it pay the bills, so be it.  Its not exactly honest work, but its no worse than a lot of other dubious employments and I'm not exactly hurting anyone.

But, it is work.  And, at the end of the day, I want to punch the clock and turn off.  If someone can inspire me to burn a few more brain cells and squeeze a deep thought out of me on my off hours, I'd be like, cool and consider that thought theirs for their own use.  On the other hand, I'm perfectly fine with someone I don't have to have meaningful conversations with, someone who I can just chill with and not talk to.  Silence can be golden, so long as its not sullen and ill tempered.

In general, I look for practical intelligence, not the heady kind.  And, good energy.




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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 11:41:16 AM   
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I look for a lot of things in a person.  I want someone not afraid of work.  I want someone not afraid to pick up a book or a newspaper or a magazine.  I want someone who's not afraid to be kind and caring and submissive.  I want someone not afraid to be loyal nor afraid to trust.  I want someone not afraid to laugh at themselves nor afraid to poke good-natured fun at me.  I want someone not afraid to sit and hold a conversation for fear of being seen as a dork or as somehow intellectually inferior. 

So all the things that have been mentioned are what I want...but I also want someone not afraid of expressing their masochism and their sexuality through the play and the sexual encounters and not afraid of following the basic D/s dynamic of yielding control and accepting it.  While all the above qualities in the first paragraph are nice and important and high on my list of priorities and I am more than willing to engage in my counterpart to them, I've often found that some women seem to place those in the first paragraph at a higher priority than those qualities I've mentioned in this paragraph in an unevenly weighted proportion.

Note that for me...while I appreciate good looks and a nice body... I am flexible enough in that area that it is on my list of priorities but somewhere after all the qualities mentioned in the above two paragraphs.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 12:58:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

For us it's watching Talk Soup and reading Entertainment Weekly :)


Right on with the EW.. I cannot go without my weekly dose of Soundbites!

EW is right up there with those hideously addictive VH1 Specials..."Top 100 80's Teen Heartthrobs" and whatnot.

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RE: Give me some good, old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 1:04:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I appreciate all of the thoughtful replies.

Honor and compassion rate an 8 as well, to me (maybe even a 9). I am not at all interested in some intellectual w/no heart. I've always rated having a heart higher. But I have a hard time w/people, who either won't talk, or say they "can't", for whatever reason.

Part of the reason don't want to deal w/these types anymore, is that I was married for years to a very quiet person, and found it eventually drove me nuts. Because even though he read a lot, he'd never discuss it - at all. I am just not a good match for anyone who isn't willing to have a decent conversation.  
Aw, that's understandable. Past experiences do have a lot to do with our priorities. See, to me... my owner's quiet demeanor radiates peace and tranquility. It's a vital part of him I cling to in times of turmoil, lol.
He and I will discuss thing, especially those matters regarding our relationship. But it's so weird... most of our time spent together is in silence. Given my past, I cherish the stillness. =)
I just brought this up because I hear people say things about how they are "going to get inside a subs head", and I started wondering how, exacty, they plan to do that, exactly - since I rarely see this topic mentioned in much detail, sans vague mentions of things like "communication", (which, to me, can mean just about anything, really (people mostly don't detail what they think it means, IMO, when I've seen it mentioned.). 

To me, you can't "get inside someone's head" unless you are willing to gradually get to know them, and since the convo doesn't usually start w/bdsm and activity talk (at least not for me, right away anyway), I figure one of the best ways to get to know someone is by having deeper conversations about "vanilla" topics, mostly.
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RE: Give me some good, old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 1:06:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dawntreader

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ORIGINAL: StellaByStarlite


Signs of life in the mind are a higher priority then the body beautiful, yes. But not as important to me as kindness, compassion, and a sense of honor.



Well said Stella ... i like this



Why, thank ya, Ms Dawntreader darlin'. =)

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 1:12:16 PM   
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I have a very diverse group of friends and I expect her to be able to interact with them.  I don't expect her to be able to argue the historical accuracy of religious texts with my Historical Buff friends, nor do I expect her to understand the inner workings a internal combustion gasoline engine....I do, however, expect a more enlightened response than "When I push on the gas pedal, it goes!"
Haha.. whatever! That would be my response. I mean... you push the gas, it goes.. what else does a lil' car dumbass gal need to know?
Hello! When you push the remote On button, the TV goes on!
When you turn the faucet, water comes out!
That's about as far as my mechanical knowledge goes, rofl
(unfortunately, that was a direct quote) *laughing*

She can possess any one (or group) of the qualities for which I'm looking, but if she can't stimulate me mentally....she's gone.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 2:33:59 PM   
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LAT i would put you at a Master's degree. 

quote:

**I am asking where folks place things like appreciating reading, and having things like "deep thoughts" and conversational ability, on their scale of "needs" from a partner. How do you rate these things, say, on a scale of 1-10?


Intelligence is a big turn on for me.  Common sense intelligence, street smart intelligence, hell just plain intelligence.  One of my best buds, who i adore, admire, trust, respect like few others - became my best bud because of his knack to just be fricken deep.  That and of course his ability to be absolutetly straight forward with no games attached.  I enjoy very much getting deep with others and it always instantly catches my interest. 


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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 2:52:38 PM   
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I would have to say that the ability to have an in-depth interesting conversation is pretty high on my list. Not simply in itself, but because it is an indication of both an intellect and a personality that is more likely to match my needs.

I have discovered that those sorts of needs are of higher priority than my "bdsm" needs. For example, I got involved with a wonderful submissive/slave. In a bdsm sense, we were an excellent match, and had great play chemistry... to the point that a crowd would gather to watch our scenes. Outside the bdsm world, everything was good, but we weren't able to connect on a deep and intimate level, and it was most apparent in the intellectual arena. After a time, it became clear to me that a connection that was limited to lifestyle issues is important, but is not enough to build an entire relationship on.

Now, I see it in a similar way as I see romantic and/or sexual relationships. Passionate romance or mind blowing sex is not enough to sustain a relationship over the long haul. The only way I know to get that is to build it upon a deep, sincere, time-tested friendship.

Sincerely,
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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 5:01:22 PM   
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I appreciate all of the replies.

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 6:17:38 PM   
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i don't know how i would rank it numerically, but i know that i would not consider a relationship with a woman that i could not discuss subjects of interest with, or whose intelligence i did not respect (dare i say, admire? i suspect in practice i would not be quite that choosy, i just happened to get lucky ). 

...dave

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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/26/2007 6:25:53 PM   
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I figure if I can't philosophize and outlogic the pants (or skirt, preferably) off of someone, well .....

Wait, am I actually SAYING these things?

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RE: Give me some good, old-fashioned Head. - 3/28/2007 12:03:55 PM   
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Education, intellect, the ability to discuss everything from your day through politics and current affairs to abstract philosophy, is essential, providing its not lecturing or diametrically opposed to my own thinking.



While Marx may have been off the mark about some things, his concept of dialectical materialism seems to sum up much of what I find interesting, although this may be my Taoist leanings.

For me, it is not the oppositional forces.  It is the dynamic these complementary aspects create through their symbiosis.

I once was having a conversation with somebody regarding her dog.  We were discussing in an anthropomorphical sense his desire to urinate on objects.  I pointed out that he would need to develope more phonemes to be able to express micturation.

I was once having a conversation with somebody else where I described some aspect of opposition about something as being a function of the "delta" between these two concepts.  I did not even have to explain that the term "delta" refers to the difference between concept A and concept B.

Most of what attracts me to a woman is what lies between her ears, and how she has chosen in the time she has been gifted to fill this space.  Throw in the ability to express this.  To pull concepts out and argue them convincingly, research their topic, being able to keep or cast aside beliefs.

These are the things that attract me to somebody.  I can only hope I do the same.

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RE: Give me some good, old-fashioned Head. - 3/28/2007 12:24:12 PM   
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FastReply:

I really appreciate CD’s post here.  While I’m interested in a whole bunch of stuff and find a well-educated, inquisitive mind just about the most sexy thing in the world…I also want all the more ‘emotional’ stuff he mentioned, too.
 
For me, perhaps the best way to describe that sort of ethereal piece I want is: the ability to celebrate our relationship.  I want someone who enjoys spending time together, who seeks me out, who really enjoys our friendship; who can talk about …whatever; likes to share bits of stuff we found interesting in books, conversation, movies; relishes sexual exploration and emotional vulnerability and all the stuff BDSM and TPE includes; who is comfortable with the enthusiasm with which I want to celebrate him right back. 
 
I think relationships need attention and nurturing;  I want somebody who knows and enjoys that part.
 
bearlee

Edited to add:

Well, all that and a basically happy person; one who is responsible for his life, enjoys what he does to support himself and likes people; one looks forward to tomorrow and sees the intrinsic good in life.


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RE: Give me some good old-fashioned Head. - 3/28/2007 2:03:11 PM   
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I rarely EVER talk *bdsm* even to bdsm folk. I'm not ragingly interested in it, to be honest.

I like it when I find I've been lost in conversation with someone for hours and can't remember everything we spoke about, .......some people are just GOOOOOD to talk with. Interested people are interesting people, I find.

If I've been with a dull person, I somehow remember every word, usually because there were so few.

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