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What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their sla... - 4/12/2005 12:12:38 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		I was recently glancing through a series of profiles when I saw one that at 1st I didnt take heed to the question that was asked but over some time it became one that I have given alot of thought towards. It was asked by a sub and it was stated as it is above. "Why do Masters/DOMs solicit their slaves/subs to solicit other slaves/subs for them?" She questioned whether others see it as harmless or just a sign that there are too many who confuse laziness with dominance. An interesting question, atleast I thought it was interesting enough to post. I too grow weary of the increasing numbers of subs/slaves who post that thy are only here in search of a sister/brother as well as those who state that if you message them it will be deleted unread. My question is why? Why would you even create a profile if it is not to be used for anything other than a decoration? Why would a Master/DOMs place the task of uptaining and collaring another when that is clearly not their role? My feelings are balanced in the manner that I can understand both sides of the spectrum but im wondering if anyone else have asked themselves these same questions
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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 1:18:26 AM   
SweetDommes


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Status: offline 		Well, first of all, it's generally a waste of the person's time, as subs who are looking for a Master/Mistress are not going to be looking at the other submissive's profiles, and probably aren't going to pay too much attention to a message from another sub (at least, none of the ones that I know of who are looking for more than just friends would).

Second, to me it just screams "HNG looking for someone to cyber with because his profile wasn't interesting enough so he created a fem one" - I know of one femsub who has a profile stating that she and her Master are looking for another fem to play with that is sincere, but I know both of them from another site that they post on, and most of the others that I have run across are either blank otherwise, or contain the "stereotypical male fantasy" version of what the 'couple' is looking for. Even this couple has said that they have trouble at times because of so many others who are not what is claimed.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 3:18:13 AM   
Padriag


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Status: offline 		I don't know about the fakes but I do know this. If were going to add a second girl, I would want my girl to be very much involved in the process. I might very well assign her the task of selecting prospective candidates. Its not about being lazy, its about compatability. From everything I have learned about poly thus far, adding a second girl (or boy) is not just about what the dominant wants, any current submissives / slaves have to be considered too. So the idea is this, the submissive knows what the dominant likes and looks for those who fit that. But that submissive will also look for those who not only fit the dominats preferences but are indivduals she likes. She then presents the candidates to the dominant who makes the final "cut". You still have all the process necessary of getting to know each other and so forth, and the dominant is still the one doing the collaring, training, etc., its just one way of giving the current submissive a voice in the choice.

I do think some of these I have seen where the submissive is looking for a slave of their own are... suspicious. I saw one, the profile was of an 18 year old "slave" who is seeking a slave girl of her own which her "master" has decided to allow her to have. To me that just seems very, very, very improbable.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 4:11:32 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		As stated before, my feelings on the matter is one of a neutral standing. Both sides can be argued with legitimate reasoning for both sides. On one hand you can argue the fact that a Master granting their slave the permission to collar another kust as credible as them persuing another themselves for a few reasons. An example of such would arguing that a fully trained sub/slave has the full knowledge of the likes and dislikes of their Master. The know the protocol that their dominat follows and the expectations that their sister/brother would have. Stating that plus the fact that regardless of how much that dominant would enjoy being served by another, if they are not compatable with both the Dom/Domme as well as the sub/slave then it cannot simply work out as well as it would seem. On the other side of the spectrum one can agrue the point that SweetDomme has made. Subs have a main criteria in motin when it comes to this lifestlye. Having some type of bond with a dominant. Whether it is a friendship or a 27/7 TPE they are untimately looking for that dominant link that gives them the oppurtunity to express their submission. There are many that wouldnt mind beginnig a friendship with another bottom and having things move in a certain direction from there, but to have another sub approach you as if a dominant would and it clearly states they are a submissive would not serve as anything but a fault in the role in which they have chosen to take on. Im sure you can see why I stand in a neutral corner on this one. Although I have my own private feelings on both I am not in the position to state whether or not I approve of it.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 4:53:36 AM   
Padriag


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There are many that wouldnt mind beginnig a friendship with another bottom and having things move in a certain direction from there, but to have another sub approach you as if a dominant would and it clearly states they are a submissive would not serve as anything but a fault in the role in which they have chosen to take on.


That is a flaw in your logic, there's no reason to presume a submissive is going to approach another submissive in a "dominant" manner. Submissives do talk to each other, build friendships and quite frequently network both online and in offline groups (munches, Houses, etc.). The submissive grapevines that develop often share a wealth of information about dominants, pretenders, etc. as well as who is seeking what. As a dominant, I will rarely have access to that network, it is not something I am likely to be invited to be part of. But a submissive would be welcomed, never underestimate the power of "girl talk". In the past I've been introduced to submissives because of this network... all because one submissive got to know me, talked to someone else who knew of someone they thought I would like and introduced us. I can think of several instances where a "domly dom" suddenly got the cold shoulder from a girl he had been pursuing and didn't know why. In most cases it was because Mr Domly Dom shot his mouth of to some other submissive, treated her poorly and word got around.

One more reason for dominants to treat submissives with respect, treat them like people. That submissived MasterAsshole trashed today might have known someone who would have been perfect for him... but he'll never get that introduction now.

As for what people put in their profiles... honestly I personally just don't care. It doesn't concern me. Sure I see people post things that I think are odd, rude, etc. What of it? If a girl posts that she is looking for a slave sister, what of it? There are hundreds of others seeking Masters. In the last two weeks I've seen more girls profiles that are seeking than I could pursue in a year if I were interested, and this despite my very picky standards. It only takes me a moment to move on and cost me nothing more than a moment of my time. Its just not an issue with me, so I have trouble wondering why there are a couple of threads running now concerned with the content of this person or that's profile. Whatever happened to live and let live?

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 5:26:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are of course a few sides of this.

On the one hand, surfing for chicks gets a bad rap and deservedly so. Subs wander around, fishing, randomly just announcing that they want someone to present to their dom, just like any troller. This isn't the type of situation most subs want to get into and often IS just a dom wanting multiple chicks and thinks using the sub as bait will be a good idea.

That being said, USING a slave for sexual or personal gain is certainly more than acceptable. It's not the principle of using the slave as bait which tends to upset people (though there certainly are people in the scene who do get upset over that) but more the way in which it goes about being done.

I personally think it makes sense to use the slave as the one to go out and seek opportunities for the dom to enjoy- whether its new restaurants, new movies, or new partners. But there's a seduction dance in play when you seek other people and simply tossing yourself into the sea with the other hundred subs looking for a new chick for their dom won't get you anywhere but disdained.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 5:33:02 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		I have a full understanding of the points you make. I would only have to disagree that I would presume that a sub would approach another as a dominant would in a sense, only because there are those profiles that state I am looking for this, I am looking for that. It becomes an I issue rather than a we. Im fully aware of the relationships that can be established between 2 submissives and the extent in which that can play in ones' decision on choosing a suitable Master. I am not arguing the topic of subs approaching each other in a friendship situation and possibly helping each other in their search. My question has been of the same nature that is has been when I thought of posting it. Using slaves to fulfill a role opposite of the one they have chosen. Your thoughts are well respected and as an older and more experienced dominant your words are always taken into account. But the thought of posting this question wouldnt have been so strong in me if it was asked by another dominant. The fact a submissive saw fit to ask a question on a topic that clearly bothered her sparked my interest.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 5:46:20 AM   
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Using slaves to fulfill a role opposite of the one they have chosen.

But that presumes that you know what my role as the Owner's slave is...which you don't really. If the Owner wants me to find him some pussy, that's exactly what my role is.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 5:58:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Masterfuture,

I wonder if it was the question that spartked your interest or the fact that the 'sub saw fit' to ask it?

I looked at your profile and realized that you and I are in the same city. There is a fairly active scene here. Unfortunately, your age exempts you from active participation in the local organization until you are 21. That's the standard age in kink organizations more or less country wide.

But I would encourage you to try to meet people and make friends, making a network for yourself. There's a learning curve in WIIWD, and finding a mentor and friends who can help you in your journey can be very valuable.

A lot of people say a lot of strange things, not only in their profiles but in the mail they send to people. For every 20 emails I get, I'd say 1 or 2 is legitimate. It's really a waste of time to criticize what others are doing in their profiles and what their motives are.

Padraig is right about the 'submissive network' out there. This network is not isolated to his area...as my friend says, It's a small world in leather, and a lot of us know each other or can track each other if we are in the real time scene fairly easily.

I would caution you in your general approach to submissives. We are not required to be submissive to anyone but that person who's collar we are in. We are of course encouraged to be polite and courteous, but submission is reserved for that person who has earned that right. Too often I observe new dominants misunderstanding this fact and getting attitude about a submissive because they fail to understand that submissives are living, breathing thinking people. Many of us are in leadership positions in the scene and are even overtly assertive at times.

This has been an interesting discussion.

Lily

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:04:33 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		I believe you're confusing your role with a task. Your role is to submit to your Master mind, body, and soul. Given the extent of the relationship and the overall commitment of the sub/slave, to show their commitment to their dominant they will carry out the orders that are given to them. Finding him some pussy is not a role. It is a task. An order which he has given you to carry out. We all know that there are traditional protocols that are expected from a sub/slave but also know that these expectations are changed according to the Master. There is no right or wrong way to use a slave. They have chosen to serve you in any way you see fit and if they are told to seek out some extra piece of ass then if they are truly commited then they will follow that order. I in fact have an interest in poly and hopefully when I have gained enough experience I will seek out a sister for my current. I will seek them out. As a dominant I have taken on the responsibility to seek out others who are in need of guidance and it is I alone that will complete that task knowing that I have taken into account the feelings of my current and the sister she would feel most comfortable having. The bond between a top/bottom in my mind is considered more sacred than any other with the reason that you would trust your partner in situations that are more volatile and all in all dangerous considering methods you are fond of.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:15:57 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		I see this has become more of a debate on my intent when deciding to ask such a question. Yes, my spark of interest was stronger because it was written by a sub. Yes, I am young in every sense of the word. My age doesnt at all affect my intuition. The question may be in fact one of little interest to some of you who have respnded by I still stand by my words on this topic. Never have I come out and given an exact position on it because I do not have one. That is why the question was asked. I want to know what do the rest of think on the issue. I ask that my age never be a factor because it is a sensitive issue based on the stereotypes that have been branded in the minds of older dominants concerning male DOMs of my age. I dont think the question was at all strange. It was a legitimate one that I felt needed to be asked but it turns out that there is a debate starting where I am placed on the oppposite side of the majority when all I asked was a simple question. What are your feeling on it.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:24:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterFuture
Your role is to submit to your Master mind, body, and soul.

The Owner really has no interest in my soul.
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Given the extent of the relationship and the overall commitment of the sub/slave, to show their commitment to their dominant they will carry out the orders that are given to them. Finding him some pussy is not a role.

It is if I have to play the seductress to get some.

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The bond between a top/bottom in my mind is considered more sacred than any other with the reason that you would trust your partner in situations that are more volatile and all in all dangerous considering methods you are fond of.


I don't consider my being owned to be more sacred than my sisters marriage to her husband, or more sacred than my relationship with the boyfriend.

I'm fairly confused by everything you've written- are you saying it's not cool for a sub to be told to get more chicks for the dom, or that it's cool, but not how you choose to do it?

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:40:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2


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ORIGINAL: MasterFuture
Your role is to submit to your Master mind, body, and soul.

The Owner really has no interest in my soul.


Oh... so you didn't have to sign the advanced contract? You know, the one written in blood on human skin?

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:40:47 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		An explaination is in order because you dont understand me. If a Master want another and sends his current to get it for him then that is his preference. I dont really care. You seem to be the main individual confused and I can pretty mush see the reason being that you may have of may have not been ordered to carry out the task of finding your Master "some pussy." Im surprised you wouldnt find this bond more sacred. Im sure that there are things that are practiced in the BDSM scene that your sister and her husband would never do under any circumstance. We can all agree that there are in fact methods that are dangerous and if not part of a BDSM then it would not be done. (Let me state that I have said some simple because I dont want that statement taken out of text). You seem to have this intention on being debatable just because. Perhaps you do not understand me because I approach this life in terms of the mental benefits. Not for the mind games, not for the money, not for the sex. If a slave and their Master have a true relationship them it requires the commitent of the mind, body, and SOUL. If he's not interested in every aspect of you then maybe you're not as important to him than you may think. I did not ask this question to stir up any feelings that anyone may have. I love every part of BDSM and what another Master does wih his current does not affect me in any way. What I am simply doing is voicing the main question of what do you think of Masters who use their slaves to collar another. That is the only question I am concerend about. I dont care what you do. I dont care about your thoughts on me. All I really want to nkow is how do you feel on the question and then move on. Do you understand that?

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:56:03 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		What does any of this have to do with my question? Are you people serious? I have had this discussion on many private occasions with dominants and subs/slave alike and it was nothing more than a friendly conversing. But all some of you are doing is finding reasons in the words I write to criticize and attack. I've done nothing but shown each and every one of you respect and all I get in return is a lynch mob each waiting their turn to have a stab at me. I had no idea these are the people that I have chosen to associate with. I can honestly say that the question that has started ths threat has only been answered twice. Now it is just a back and forth outing. Sighs^. I dont know what to say. I for one am shocked by some of you. I tried to explain it but you dont want to hear it. You never did. it was simply but one thing turned into another and then it became a bashing. I said it again and again that my feelings were neutral, they were neutral. i dont stand on either side but i've been perceived as the young man who doesnt know what he is talking about. Im 19 yrs of age, no where as experienced as the rest of you, but still I stand by eack and everything that i've said. Take it as it is. I take it as me reaching out on your thoughts. Me absorbing all that I can from the individuals that paved he way for me. I looked up to you people. But now im doubting if you've mistaken your arrogance as a dominat nature

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 6:56:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		With one or two notable exceptions, from what I can see the vast majority of these profiles are people living out some sort of 'cyber-roleplay', sad as it may be.

Of the few exceptions some few others that I have looked at and thought - that damn Dom is one greedy bugger - but to be honest thats probably inspired by jealousy lol

And there is no doubt in my mind that some of the others are probably just abusive relationships masqurading under a 'bdsm' banner, where the so called 'Dom/me' is in reality an out and out s**t, or the Submissive is behaving (being coerced?) like a doormat.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 7:22:35 AM   
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An explaination is in order because you dont understand me. If a Master want another and sends his current to get it for him then that is his preference. I dont really care. You seem to be the main individual confused and I can pretty mush see the reason being that you may have of may have not been ordered to carry out the task of finding your Master "some pussy."

Now I'm just confused by your grammar "I can pretty mush see the reason being that you may have of may not have not been ordered to carry out"

So is the reason I'm confused because I may have been asked to carry it out, or may not have been asked to carry it out, or both, or neither?

To clarify, yes I've been ordered to find play partners before, both for myself and for the Owner to enjoy. If you read my journals, you'll see this hasn't been a hardship for me and is pretty much a case of calling up my friends and seeing who's available on a certain evening.
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Im surprised you wouldnt find this bond more sacred. Im sure that there are things that are practiced in the BDSM scene that your sister and her husband would never do under any circumstance.

And there are things that my sister and her husband do that I would never do under any circumstances, like monogamy. I dont consider myself superior just because I am oriented as a slave and my biological sister is not.

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We can all agree that there are in fact methods that are dangerous and if not part of a BDSM then it would not be done.

And what about mountain climbing? Sky diving? Scuba diving? Being a soldier in Iraq? There's lots of dangerous things to do in the world, bdsm is pretty tame compared to some of them.

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If a slave and their Master have a true relationship them it requires the commitent of the mind, body, and SOUL. If he's not interested in every aspect of you then maybe you're not as important to him than you may think.

Ah, the true word. How can I argue against that irrefutable fact of trueness? How can we ever have yet another debate on what a "true" M/s relationship is, when we have the answer right here? How lucky we are. How sad I am that the Owner is not true.

And what importance SHOULD I be to the Owner? I'm his property.

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That is the only question I am concerend about. I dont care what you do. I dont care about your thoughts on me. All I really want to nkow is how do you feel on the question and then move on. Do you understand that?

If you don't care of other people's thought on you, why are you reacting so highly to them? I've already expressed how I feel about the question, first post I made on this thread. As far as moving on...I'm enjoying the discussion. If you want to stop responding to me, feel free to do so, but I'm liking this discussion, mostly cuz it lets me be sarcastic and cute and witty.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 8:19:55 AM   
MasterFuture


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Status: offline 		I bet you're enjoying this. You do have a sarcastic way about you and this has extended beyond the question at hand. I know you're a smart girl and I also know that you have your opinions to voice out considering that as a slave you take your responsibility of carrying out an order to a T, this is one of the only times where you can speak your mind and get away with it. There is no need to go back and forth about the things that you or I do. None of it mattersin the long run simply becuase we will never cross paths offline. I would ask you to understand me but that would serve as difficult because of the mood that you're in. My statement on the seriousness and dangerous methods of BDSM, and I am sure that I said method, Stems into things that are done privately in your own home. Im sure that you've known that all along but you needed a reason to carry this on. You have been trained in a certai way by your Master. You consider yourself property but not all think on the same level as you do. Some enjoy when their Master console in them when they are having a bad day. Some actually like to sit on the furniture, Have theri Master bath and pamper them to show their gratitude. I like to shoiw them that their submission means more to me then just having a fuck toy that I can give an order to when I see fit. It obvious that your Master and I are nothing alike and from the way that you speak its clear that you're not allowed to do it often in the household. Assuming if you live with him or course. Its all simple. We have traveled down differnt paths. You have walked further than I you have the position to make corrections of I am wrong, but you just want to act out. I have respect for all walks of life in this lifestyle. Be they top or bottom. My elders have been in this before I was even a thought and regardless of how determined I am to succeeding they are the authority figures and I have come to understand that. I wont let the comment of a few affect my overall view of the elders as a whole. There was a slight understanding in my wording and I understand that at every chance to take a shot they have will be taken. Im not bitter at all. As said before ths was a topic that I have discussed in private at many times and the end result was all of us stating our opinons and that was it. I dont even have words for the way you people have acted. I wish you all the best but it is clear that it was a mistake to post anything thinking I would get a civilized responce seeing how others were treated in the same manner. Sad, but thats life.

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 8:42:02 AM   
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I bet you're enjoying this. You do have a sarcastic way about you and this has extended beyond the question at hand. I know you're a smart girl and I also know that you have your opinions to voice out considering that as a slave you take your responsibility of carrying out an order to a T, this is one of the only times where you can speak your mind and get away with it.

Not sure what leads you to the conclusion that this is one of the only times where I can speak my mind and "get away with it"?

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I would ask you to understand me but that would serve as difficult because of the mood that you're in.

Or because you're not re-stating or clarifying your position, but instead focusing on my behaviors, responses and your assumptions about them?

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My statement on the seriousness and dangerous methods of BDSM, and I am sure that I said method, Stems into things that are done privately in your own home. Im sure that you've known that all along but you needed a reason to carry this on.

I never denied that there are things in bdsm that are risky, simply that there are many more things in life I consider much riskier and I don't consider bdsm superior or more sacred than anothers life choice.

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You have been trained in a certai way by your Master. You consider yourself property but not all think on the same level as you do. Some enjoy when their Master console in them when they are having a bad day. Some actually like to sit on the furniture, Have theri Master bath and pamper them to show their gratitude.

But I never said I didn't like those things...only that I am property. I have no reason to EXPECT to be treated otherwise and there's no reason for the Owner to treat me like that unless he so desires.

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I like to shoiw them that their submission means more to me then just having a fuck toy that I can give an order to when I see fit.

Ahhhhh so it comes out- you consider being a fuck toy to mean less than other forms of submission. Pity, I consider it all service. You obviously DO consider some forms and methods of ownership to be superior to others.

Just to have it noted, just because the Owner chooses to use me as a fuck toy doesn't mean that's the ONLY thing he uses me for, and even if it was, I wouldn't consider it any "more" submissive than another form of service. You're making a lot of assumptions based on one thread discussion.

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It obvious that your Master and I are nothing alike and from the way that you speak its clear that you're not allowed to do it often in the household.

Not allowed to do what? I think you're making a false assumption again.

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You have walked further than I you have the position to make corrections of I am wrong, but you just want to act out.

Um, right. Check out some of the other boards/forums and my journal, then you can make a more informed judgement.
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I have respect for all walks of life in this lifestyle. Be they top or bottom.

Though obviously you don't consider being a sex toy as respectful as other forms of submission.

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I wish you all the best but it is clear that it was a mistake to post anything thinking I would get a civilized responce seeing how others were treated in the same manner. Sad, but thats life.

What? We should have made blatant and baseless widespread assumptions about others roles, methods, places and values in the lifestyle based on just a few posts like you have?

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RE: What are your thought on Masters/DOMs who use their... - 4/12/2005 8:53:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		What are your thoughts of Masters that solicit their slaves to uptain and collar other slaves/subs?



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There are of course a few sides of this.

On the one hand, surfing for chicks gets a bad rap and deservedly so. Subs wander around, fishing, randomly just announcing that they want someone to present to their dom, just like any troller. This isn't the type of situation most subs want to get into and often IS just a dom wanting multiple chicks and thinks using the sub as bait will be a good idea.

That being said, USING a slave for sexual or personal gain is certainly more than acceptable. It's not the principle of using the slave as bait which tends to upset people (though there certainly are people in the scene who do get upset over that) but more the way in which it goes about being done.

I personally think it makes sense to use the slave as the one to go out and seek opportunities for the dom to enjoy- whether its new restaurants, new movies, or new partners. But there's a seduction dance in play when you seek other people and simply tossing yourself into the sea with the other hundred subs looking for a new chick for their dom won't get you anywhere but disdained. [/quote ]

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