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missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 12:07:43 PM)

No sweat - i like stingy things !! [:D]




Najakcharmer -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 2:12:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

I can't believe i'm curious but i am. Spiders like the black widow, recluse, tarantula and others i cant think of have a really bad rep. What are they really like?


Black widows are extremely slow moving and docile, so much so that I've occasionally freehandled them when gloves or other tools weren't handy and I needed to move or capture one quickly.  Their webs are characterized by a "crazy" disorganized appearance with lots of junk hanging in it, and extreme tensile strength.  They will respond to gentle rhythmic plucking of the correct sort of web by emerging hopefully from the crevice that the web is generally built around, at which point they may be captured.  Recluses are skittish and scuttly to handle and can be defensive if provoked, but they're not aggressive by any means.  I won't work with these guys bare handed as their responses are a bit too unpredictable and their fangs a bit too long.  Mostly they're hard to catch, fast moving and easily spooked. 

Tarantulas vary in temperment by species, but most are docile and easily handleable.  I rarely bother with protective gloves for those species either.  Dustpans and litter scoops are best for moving them around anyhow.  Some of the larger tarantula relatives that aren't true tarantulas can be quite defensive or food aggressive towards their keepers, but I've never had problems playing with the North American species quite casually with my bare hands.  They make amusing shoulder decorations if you're sitting down.  It's not a good idea to raise them much farther off the ground. as they can be injured by a fall from that height.  Spiders are fragile and much too easy to break, so folks who work with them must handle them with care.




missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 2:25:07 PM)

Thank you. I know tarantulas are kept as pets, my ex boyf had one that appeared quite friendly! Do they make goos pets and can they be like dogs etc that get attached to their owners?
Also if a black widow is docile etc are they kept as pets, would they make good pets?
Do you even agree with keeping spiders as pets?




Tamerofwild1s -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 2:33:31 PM)

*walks in with flowers draped in spider webs* . go ahead girl . try the stabbing thing ... make my day  [8D]




nighthawk3569 -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 2:38:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Thank you. I know tarantulas are kept as pets, my ex boyf had one that appeared quite friendly! Do they make goos pets and can they be like dogs etc that get attached to their owners?
Also if a black widow is docile etc are they kept as pets, would they make good pets?
Do you even agree with keeping spiders as pets?


    Looks like I've outlived my usefulness as the 'protector of fair maiden from spiders'. I'll just fold my tent and steal away into the night...unlamented.
 
                                                                            'hawk




missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 2:50:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

*walks in with flowers draped in spider webs* . go ahead girl . try the stabbing thing ... make my day  [8D]


My dear cuddly nefarious T, i decided that my nail file being plastic wouldnt work sooooooooo in my infinite imagination i decided instead to stick penises in my red hot straighteners. Still up for it?




missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 2:51:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: nighthawk3569

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Thank you. I know tarantulas are kept as pets, my ex boyf had one that appeared quite friendly! Do they make goos pets and can they be like dogs etc that get attached to their owners?
Also if a black widow is docile etc are they kept as pets, would they make good pets?
Do you even agree with keeping spiders as pets?


   Looks like I've outlived my usefulness as the 'protector of fair maiden from spiders'. I'll just fold my tent and steal away into the night...unlamented.
 
                                                                            'hawk


My words have got brave but trust me they still squick me out more than anything.




Najakcharmer -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 2:58:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Thank you. I know tarantulas are kept as pets, my ex boyf had one that appeared quite friendly! Do they make goos pets and can they be like dogs etc that get attached to their owners?
Also if a black widow is docile etc are they kept as pets, would they make good pets?
Do you even agree with keeping spiders as pets?


That depends on how you define a pet.  All animals have basic needs for proper nutrition, temperature, humidity and housing.  Some animals have more exacting or more difficult requirements than others.  A good comparison would be a hardy houseplant like a fern or a ficus compared to a rare hothouse tropical orchid that will become sick and die unless it has special potting material of a specific alkalinity, a humidity percentage kept at a constant 80-90%, stable 78-83F temperature and a 12 hour photoperiod with full spectrum lighting.

Obviously the average person looking for a decorative houseplant who is only equipped to water it a couple times a week and keep it on the dining room table next to the air conditioner had better stick to the fern or the ficus and leave the hothouse orchids for very serious and advanced growers who can keep such a plant alive under proper conditions.  Critters work similarly.  Almost anyone can keep a dog or a cat healthy, but there are a number of animals, insects and arachnids that need much more specialized environments and nutrition that you are not going to find in the average house or at the average pet store.   It is inappropriate, cruel and frankly pretty stupid for the average person looking for a "cool" pet to try to keep an exotic species that they really know nothing about under conditions that are not healthy for that species. 

However anyone who is very serious and knowledgeable about the exacting requirements of an exotic species and has the ability and the equipment to keep it healthy and safe should be able to do so.  Private keepers of exotic species have contributed immeasurably to science and to the available gene pool of vanishing or endangered species, in many cases more so than "official" zoological institutions. 

Spiders are capable of habituating and responding to specific stimuli, but they don't percieve the world in the same way mammals do.  They can learn to recognize simple visuals and some sounds (vibrations), but they would not be able to distinguish between two humans who were not presenting identical stimulus.   I doubt they are capable of "affection", but they can become habituated (docile) and pleasant to handle.

As a budding young scientist I kept black widows as "pets", and the experience was a very positive one that served me well in my adult life.  I don't think I'd generally recommend the keeping of any toxinous organisms to anyone who was not prepared to take professional level precautions with their housing and handling.  But if you are so prepared, Latrodectus is an absolutely beautiful spider that is lovely to work with in captivity.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 4:23:01 PM)

*raises hand*  i'll remove it for you at no cost




nighthawk3569 -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 4:36:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: nighthawk3569

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Thank you. I know tarantulas are kept as pets, my ex boyf had one that appeared quite friendly! Do they make goos pets and can they be like dogs etc that get attached to their owners?
Also if a black widow is docile etc are they kept as pets, would they make good pets?
Do you even agree with keeping spiders as pets?


  Looks like I've outlived my usefulness as the 'protector of fair maiden from spiders'. I'll just fold my tent and steal away into the night...unlamented.
 
                                                                            'hawk


My words have got brave but trust me they still squick me out more than anything.


     Ahhhhhhhh! The naughty misst has decided to cover her bets, by hanging onto what she has gained. Nevertheless, never let it be said that 'hawk left a fair maiden in distress. The 'hawk will remain out of sight, but nearby, just in case.                                                       

                                                                         'hawk 




Tamerofwild1s -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 4:37:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

*walks in with flowers draped in spider webs* . go ahead girl . try the stabbing thing ... make my day  [8D]


My dear cuddly nefarious T, i decided that my nail file being plastic wouldnt work sooooooooo in my infinite imagination i decided instead to stick penises in my red hot straighteners. Still up for it?


I'm game as long as you don't mind me shoving that plugged in curling iron up your ass .... [8D] ..... AND I AIN'T CUDDLY DAMMMMMIT




missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 4:47:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

*walks in with flowers draped in spider webs* . go ahead girl . try the stabbing thing ... make my day  [8D]


My dear cuddly nefarious T, i decided that my nail file being plastic wouldnt work sooooooooo in my infinite imagination i decided instead to stick penises in my red hot straighteners. Still up for it?


I'm game as long as you don't mind me shoving that plugged in curling iron up your ass .... [8D] ..... AND I AIN'T CUDDLY DAMMMMMIT


Right its not a curling iron it straightens my hair [8D]
Secondly after a damn good beating from you i would want to cuddle you and thank you and in a manly bear way you are cuddly. I gave you nefarious cant i have the cuddly.
Yes i god damn can - see how brave i am ?
Ok thousands of miles make misst brave but huh *puffs chest out*




missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 4:48:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

*raises hand*  i'll remove it for you at no cost


Thank you [:)]




missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 4:49:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: nighthawk3569

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: nighthawk3569

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Thank you. I know tarantulas are kept as pets, my ex boyf had one that appeared quite friendly! Do they make goos pets and can they be like dogs etc that get attached to their owners?
Also if a black widow is docile etc are they kept as pets, would they make good pets?
Do you even agree with keeping spiders as pets?


Looks like I've outlived my usefulness as the 'protector of fair maiden from spiders'. I'll just fold my tent and steal away into the night...unlamented.
 
                                                                            'hawk


My words have got brave but trust me they still squick me out more than anything.


     Ahhhhhhhh! The naughty misst has decided to cover her bets, by hanging onto what she has gained. Nevertheless, never let it be said that 'hawk left a fair maiden in distress. The 'hawk will remain out of sight, but nearby, just in case.                                                       

                                                                         'hawk 


Yay thank you.
I'm attempting to get spider friendly but i looked some pics up on the net and they squicked me and now im frightened of the god damn arachnids from hell again [:(]




Tamerofwild1s -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 4:59:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

*walks in with flowers draped in spider webs* . go ahead girl . try the stabbing thing ... make my day  [8D]


My dear cuddly nefarious T, i decided that my nail file being plastic wouldnt work sooooooooo in my infinite imagination i decided instead to stick penises in my red hot straighteners. Still up for it?


I'm game as long as you don't mind me shoving that plugged in curling iron up your ass .... [8D] ..... AND I AIN'T CUDDLY DAMMMMMIT


Right its not a curling iron it straightens my hair [8D]
Secondly after a damn good beating from you i would want to cuddle you and thank you and in a manly bear way you are cuddly. I gave you nefarious cant i have the cuddly.
Yes i god damn can - see how brave i am ?
Ok thousands of miles make misst brave but huh *puffs chest out*


*pokes you in your puffy chest* ... I found a curling iron overthere so now its goin in your arse ... and while your screaming I might wanna dump some spider guts in your mouth ... and I suppose I can be a skosh cuddly . but in a Domly way mind you ...... and it ain't nothing but a small hop across that big pond to make you realize ..... I truely am nefarious




missturbation -> RE: It tried to kill me - honest!! (3/30/2007 5:02:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

*walks in with flowers draped in spider webs* . go ahead girl . try the stabbing thing ... make my day  [8D]


My dear cuddly nefarious T, i decided that my nail file being plastic wouldnt work sooooooooo in my infinite imagination i decided instead to stick penises in my red hot straighteners. Still up for it?


I'm game as long as you don't mind me shoving that plugged in curling iron up your ass .... [8D] ..... AND I AIN'T CUDDLY DAMMMMMIT


Right its not a curling iron it straightens my hair [8D]
Secondly after a damn good beating from you i would want to cuddle you and thank you and in a manly bear way you are cuddly. I gave you nefarious cant i have the cuddly.
Yes i god damn can - see how brave i am ?
Ok thousands of miles make misst brave but huh *puffs chest out*


*pokes you in your puffy chest* ... I found a curling iron overthere so now its goin in your arse ... and while your screaming I might wanna dump some spider guts in your mouth ... and I suppose I can be a skosh cuddly . but in a Domly way mind you ...... and it ain't nothing but a small hop across that big pond to make you realize ..... I truely am nefarious


Ouch [:'(]
I do have curling irons too only over here they are known as tongs oh nefarious one.
I think you are cuddly and a girl would feel safe wrapped in your bear hug i'm guessing so yep you can have in a domly way.
Oh and promises promises on hopping across the pond [;)]




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