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RE: Submission - 4/16/2005 6:58:26 PM   
BeachMystress


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Akasha has done a great job of giving you advice. I'd like to thank her for it (although it wasn't done for me.) I'd also like to let her (and the rest of the posters to this thread) know that you actually do listen and adjust your behaviour when you learn something new. Giving a newbie advice sometimes feels like scattering wisdom to the winds, because they don't listen. You're not like that and this thread is helping someone who is in the local scene and on his journey to become a good/valuable submissive.

You're coming a long way in a short time for someone who doesn't have a steady Domme. I know it feels like it is taking a long time for things to happen, but anything worth doing is worth learning to do right, which often means slowly.

As for power exchange/ authority transfer, watch how G. and I interact. I know it is harder at parties, but as you come to visit us more you'll see us in non play mode. We often describe our relationship as a traditional 50's husband/wife role, with me in the husband role and him as the wife. He cooks, he gets me my drinks, snacks and food, he cleans, he complains about the way I do laundry (I only turned a few of his sheets pink.. sheesh!) and so on.

There is more to the relationship though, I also make sure that he is getting the stuff done that needs to be done- such as Drs visits, cleaning his room, taking his vitamins, telling him to go to bed at times, making sure important paperwork gets done, bills get paid and other "Mother" type things. Since most people don't understand the Mother/little one relationship, we usually leave that out of our description, but it is there. No, I never put G in diapers or make him drink from a bottle or that junk (LOL, wouldn't he look funny in a diaper??? LOLOL.) We're not into age play like that.. it is a nurture type of relationship.

You looked good in your thong by the way. The leather vest and the cuffs were perfect. Do you understand why I'd not put your collar on you? Why I sent you to Ms. Norma Jean? First, G would have been a little jealous. He can get pretty territorial about me at times. (I find it kinda cute actually) Second, putting a sub's collar on is (to me) accepting their service for the period of time the collar is on.. and I was planning on playing G hard and didn't have time to oversee you. (You should have seen the marks on that poor boy. I took photos when I got home. I'll attach one that is socially acceptable -no penis of butt crack- on here so you can see. There are other pix that show the marks better, (especially his poor bruised back and butt) but they aren't socially acceptable as they contain genitalia. That was the first time G has been given a real beating. We've done the scratch play before, but not to the extent of last night. Greg is also a wuss painwise, but took that for me, because he loves me and wanted to give me what I need/want. When you find the right person, your low pain limit will increase if she needs it to do so.

What you're doing now is laying the foundations that your Domme will build upon when you find the right one. This forum is the perfect place to get a lot of insight into the way others, both Dominant and submissive, view their roles and lifestyle. As I'm sure you're starting to understand, there is no one right way to do things. The relationship between myself and G is very different than MNJ's with her two boys. Yet we are both very caring, nurturing Domme, as you've seen. I'd never train G the way MNJ trains her boys. Training a sub is like raising kids.. everyone thinks (in their heart of hearts even if they are modest vocally) their own way is best. You can read books on it, talk to others who also are doing it, but in the end, you take bits and pieces from all over and meld it into your personal style. You do your best and your experience grows with each kid (sub) you have. You learn from your mistakes. (And everyone makes mistakes. Any Dominant who claims to be perfect makes me laugh.) The same is true for subs.. they learn, grow and make mistakes. You're doing great. Being confused is part of the learning process. :-)




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RE: Submission - 4/16/2005 7:17:19 PM   
onceburned


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quote:






ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch...

I can only imagine his back and his butt. Poor G!

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RE: Submission - 4/17/2005 3:05:54 AM   
Spike1777


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Hi Ms Beach

You guys were having such a great time on that new piece of equipment. I am happy to have been there to serve you.
I can certainly understand about the collaring....actually Lady A ended up collaring me. me on my knees with the collar raised above my head for her to place and then a quick kiss to the tops of the foot...and viola i am collared...

i like Ms Norma Jean alot..... she said that next time we could do some play-time. Maybe somethine simple like OTK but what ever we do it will be up to her.

Diva Midori has been helping me on a another thing, sex therapy. I had a person picked out but Midori said she was not really kink positive, so i am looking again for a kink positive sex therapist in the LA area. She feels that i should be more open about everything so i making every effort. She is so cool and her thoughts on sexual submission and relationship submission were fine...here is an excerpt

quote
Also remember that sexual submission is very different than relational
submission. If these are confused, then you have disaster down the road for
certain. I had a relationship where I thought the boy wanted relational
submission. Used all the languages of relational submission. And in the end
what he wanted was sexual submission and kink within a relatively
traditional masculine-feminine relationship. Not surprisingly, the
relationship ended disastrously.

Next thought... Stop thinking in terms of Femme Domme/male sub. I think
making it gender specific is going to lead you down the path of usage of
generalizations and stereotypes. Specifying the gender works for personal
ads. Not for general discourse on relationship dynamics. I think it's better
to think in terms of dominance and submission beyond gender.
end quote

relationships is one area that I certainly need some coaching. the idea of relationship submission is nearly religous...

little spike



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RE: Submission - 4/18/2005 4:32:58 PM   
BeachMystress


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quote:

ORIGINAL: onceburned

ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch...

I can only imagine his back and his butt. Poor G!

*blows once burned a kiss* WUSS! LOL
Actually, I'm pretty proud of some of those marks.. I made them with a DEER flogger. That's right.. one of the lightest of floggers. He'd not believed I could make it hurt.. uh huh.. riiiight. He's a newbie (9 months in scene) and as such, knows my gentle side well. He's just getting a taste of my other desires. :-) You can read his thoughts about that scene at http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=5147934&blogID=22402814&Mytoken=20050418163038

quote:

ORIGINAL: Spike1777
relationships is one area that I certainly need some coaching. the idea of relationship submission is nearly religous...

In my mind also, relationship submission is the top of the pinnacle. It is easy to find a sub who wants to sub in the bedroom when he is in the mood for it. It is harder to find a sub who will sub in the bedroom when he is in the mood for it, but even when he is not. It is a bear of a search to find a sub who truly wants to submit in all areas of his life. Finding a Dominant is a lengthy process. You've just started. Enjoy the journey.

Since relationship subs are rare, you will find your Domme sooner or later. Just be patient.


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RE: Submission - 4/18/2005 8:36:33 PM   
onceburned


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
You can read his thoughts about that scene at http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=5147934&blogID=22402814&Mytoken=20050418163038


Wow... what a great guy. You two are awesome!

(And yes, when it comes to pain I -am- a wuss!)

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RE: Submission - 4/19/2005 10:24:14 AM   
BeachMystress


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Yeah, he is a great guy. *glows with happiness* I've been blessed to find someone who understands what submission is, serves me and wishes to please me out of love. I actually believe that anything I asked of him, he'd attempt. He has already agreed to do things for me that frighten the daylights out of him and stretched himself to take all he can for me- as you can see from his blog. He's not only the perfect man for me, but the perfect sub. I'd never imagined a D/s relationship could be so.. complete and fulfilling. I'd just not found my "one" till now. :-)

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*Do not threaten the weak. Intimidate the strong. ~ Stevenson*
http://beachmystress.jigsy.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beachmystress/

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RE: Submission - 5/31/2005 1:56:13 PM   
littlespike


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Hello Everybody

i kind of thought that this forum was way down deep in the CallarMe archives. This was my first forum and a lot of fun.

Since then my handle has changed from spike1777 to littlespike. My Domme friend and Mistress have renamed me and i love the ring to my new handle littlespike. So the spike1777 handle is dormant and soon to be deleted.


respectfully
little spike

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