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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

What I don't get is the part about weeding out the sincere from the jerk-offs.  That's easy.  I make friends first.  Any potential sub who is relaxed enough to just enjoy chatting about mutual non kink interests and building a relationship of real friendship without immediately pressing for kinky sex or play is a keeper in my book. 

Money really doesn't help to determine who you'll really enjoy spending time with down the road as your collared submissive.  A solid basis of friendship, mutual liking and common interests surely does. 

The tribute I want?  Join my gaming group and play a few sessions.  Offer up entertaining intellectual exchanges on subjects we are both passionate about.  Share your creative work.  Be friendly, relaxed and interested in getting to know me as a human being.  Make a friend.  Now you're on my "A" list of extremely desirable potential play partners.  Smart, self-confident, intelligent and interesting geeky gamer boys are hot to play with, they fit into my existing lifestyle and social circles, and also they're fun to spend time with even when they're not tied up and writhing under the whip. 

Money can't make someone compatible with me who isn't.  So why is money even a factor in determining who you might really enjoy as a submissive?   I mean, WTF?  Eventually your whip arm is going to get tired and you are going to end up *gasp* TALKING to the guy you've been playing with.  If you have absolutely nothing in common to talk about and can't spend time with him without being bored silly, how much hotness is your next scene going to have? 

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ORIGINAL: amayos

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
So why the question of tribute? [...]Why is it we cannot be real?

Why tribute?

Money is power and pleasure; it is influential, sexual and so many other things. The act of monetary tithing is both symbolic and concrete; it is a proxy for your will to please.

Poetry of desire and longing is trivial and virtually meaningless in a virtual word. To manifest your interest with a gift or monetary sum is a far more difficult test. But tribute means nothing when it's easy; the amount should be something that hurts—something that is a sacrifice. Many contend that financial domination is impersonal, evil and absurd, but there are few things so personal and real as money, I believe. When it is given in the right spirit, when it is offered out of pure love and worship and not with the intent to prostitute, it is a beautiful thing.

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ORIGINAL: amayos

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

A gift is perhaps given out of pure love and worship. A required tribute is given out of fear of rejection and dismissal.

All beginning paths are delicate, and those who love are seldom free of the possibility of severance. As for required tributes, I feel one need only observe them if one so chooses. Mistresses and Masters have many ways of discerning worth from a sea of nonsense; that one prefers a standard, stripe or seal and yet another proxy by coin is perfectly within the right of the individual, and we should not look down upon any standard, so long as it is made clear. We are all responsible to ourselves for the gateways we create, just as those who walk through them are responsible for choosing to do so.

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

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ORIGINAL: amayos

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

A gift is perhaps given out of pure love and worship. A required tribute is given out of fear of rejection and dismissal.

All beginning paths are delicate, and those who love are seldom free of the possibility of severance. As for required tributes, I feel one need only observe them if one so chooses. Mistresses and Masters have many ways of discerning worth from a sea of nonsense; that one prefers a standard, stripe or seal and yet another proxy by coin is perfectly within the right of the individual, and we should not look down upon any standard, so long as it is made clear. We are all responsible to ourselves for the gateways we create, just as those who walk through them are responsible for choosing to do so.

I love that term "a sea of nonsense",

Bravo!

My subs tribute with good heart, and bear gifts too, so gifts and tribute for Me thankyou kindly lol.

http://mistressrouge.webeden.co.uk/

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ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

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ORIGINAL: amayos

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

A gift is perhaps given out of pure love and worship. A required tribute is given out of fear of rejection and dismissal.

All beginning paths are delicate, and those who love are seldom free of the possibility of severance. As for required tributes, I feel one need only observe them if one so chooses. Mistresses and Masters have many ways of discerning worth from a sea of nonsense; that one prefers a standard, stripe or seal and yet another proxy by coin is perfectly within the right of the individual, and we should not look down upon any standard, so long as it is made clear. We are all responsible to ourselves for the gateways we create, just as those who walk through them are responsible for choosing to do so.

I love that term "a sea of nonsense",

Bravo!

My subs tribute with good heart, and bear gifts too, so gifts and tribute for Me thankyou kindly lol.

http://mistressrouge.webeden.co.uk/

And theres me thinking you were a Pro Domme, go figure! lol

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

We have had some posters here who have contributed to the discussion with an explanation of why they feel as they do, and tried to convey the intellectual basis of how they feel. Care to join us?

Cheers,

Sea

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ORIGINAL: Mysti

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I think a tribute is great if youre already in the relationship. For Me though I'd like it to be something useful. I dont need My subs money, I'd rather have him help me in some way thats out of his ordinary service. Perhaps coming to the gym with me and helping me with working on My sparring skills(I'm a novice muy thai fighter, just starting out), or helping Me study for an exam by quizzing Me on data, or suprising Me with a tea on an all night study grind. I suppose tributes have their place in the echelon of the D/s dynamic though, and as long as there are those that demand it, there will be those that will pay it.

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ORIGINAL: amayos
All beginning paths are delicate, and those who love are seldom free of the possibility of severance.

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 As for required tributes, I feel one need only observe them if one so chooses. Mistresses and Masters have many ways of discerning worth from a sea of nonsense; that one prefers a standard, stripe or seal and yet another proxy by coin is perfectly within the right of the individual, and we should not look down upon any standard, so long as it is made clear. We are all responsible to ourselves for the gateways we create, just as those who walk through them are responsible for choosing to do so.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

So it would seem there are different types of Dommes,the ones I seek are here,which is refreshing to know,people with a similar mind.I can however accept the others and their need,they will always find what they seek,and good luck to them,I bear no ills,but it is not for me.If I desired to meet a professional,I could indeed do that in my own city not look here.

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer
Money really doesn't help to determine who you'll really enjoy spending time with down the road as your collared submissive.  A solid basis of friendship, mutual liking and common interests surely does.

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea
I think one's perspective about tribute heavily depends on the relationship primarily sought. It seems tribute is less relevant for broader relationships that lean towards companionship, and more relevant for relationships that are based on play alone.

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer
Well yeah, but when your whip arm gets tired

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

What I don't get is the part about weeding out the sincere from the jerk-offs.  That's easy.  I make friends first.  Any potential sub who is relaxed enough to just enjoy chatting about mutual non kink interests and building a relationship of real friendship without immediately pressing for kinky sex or play is a keeper in my book. 



Money really doesn't help to determine who you'll really enjoy spending time with down the road as your collared submissive.  A solid basis of friendship, mutual liking and common interests surely does. 




The tribute I want?  Join my gaming group and play a few sessions.  Offer up entertaining intellectual exchanges on subjects we are both passionate about.  Share your creative work.  Be friendly, relaxed and interested in getting to know me as a human being.  Make a friend.  Now you're on my "A" list of extremely desirable potential play partners.  Smart, self-confident, intelligent and interesting geeky gamer boys are hot to play with, they fit into my existing lifestyle and social circles, and also they're fun to spend time with even when they're not tied up and writhing under the whip. 

Money can't make someone compatible with me who isn't.  So why is money even a factor in determining who you might really enjoy as a submissive?   I mean, WTF?  Eventually your whip arm is going to get tired and you are going to end up *gasp* TALKING to the guy you've been playing with.  If you have absolutely nothing in common to talk about and can't spend time with him without being bored silly, how much hotness is your next scene going to have?