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Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 8:23:53 PM   
farmlandsub


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Status: offline 		i recently heard a speaker talk about the nature of service, and he said that he believes there are three emotions that motivate one to serve.

Fear

Does one serve out of fear? Fear of losing ones Dom/Master? Fear of what She/He will do if one does not obey? Fear of having things with held?


Duty/Devotion

Does one feel she/he has to serve because it is ones duty/devotion? one only serves because it is expected?



Love

Or does one serve out of love for ones Dom/Master? Not necessarily a romantic love but a genuine love for the person? Does one serve because that service is how one shows their love and respect for ones Dom/Master?

i'm just thinking out loud here.
Does one serve for one of these three reasons?  If so, which of the three?  Or do you serve for an entirely different reason, or emotion, not included here?
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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 8:35:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I serve out of love. I have little interest in serving someone I'm not in love with. I may scene with them but it's entirely for my pleasure and at my convience.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 8:44:44 PM   
completenz


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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 8:56:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I serve out of love and the need within me to do it.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 9:00:52 PM   
Wildfleurs


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quote:

ORIGINAL: farmlandsub

i'm just thinking out loud here.
Does one serve for one of these three reasons?  If so, which of the three?  Or do you serve for an entirely different reason, or emotion, not included here?


I serve because I'm committed to being his slave, and part and parcel of being his slave to me means that I get done whatever he says needs to get done.  I also serve because I find that service allows me an opportunity to be of practical use to him.  An I also serve him because I want to please him and I love him.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 9:04:34 PM   
SlaveBlutarsky


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Status: offline 		I serve because it's who I am and what i'm programmed to do. It certainly isn't out of fear. It may be out of duty/devotion, and that in turn evolves into love I think, at least for me. 

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 9:05:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I serve for those moments when He smiles at me because I have pleased Him. I serve because it is within my capacity to do so and I also desire to make Him happy. I agree with the others, I do serve out of love...but I have served those I have not been in love with, so I'm not sure that I can use that as a valid reason.
 
In the end, I serve because of who I am.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 9:37:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: farmlandsub
Fear

Does one serve out of fear? Fear of losing ones Dom/Master? Fear of what She/He will do if one does not obey? Fear of having things with held?

Fear never works in the long term.

quote:

Duty/Devotion

Does one feel she/he has to serve because it is ones duty/devotion? one only serves because it is expected?

That can be the case at times.
quote:


Love

Or does one serve out of love for ones Dom/Master? Not necessarily a romantic love but a genuine love for the person? Does one serve because that service is how one shows their love and respect for ones Dom/Master?

That can be the case at times.

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Does one serve for one of these three reasons?  If so, which of the three?  Or do you serve for an entirely different reason, or emotion, not included here?

I serve because it is in me to serve.

IMO all good healthy people want to serve themselves and others in the world.  It has nothing to do with Ds.  Slaves in Ms relationships can actually be highly selfish and self centered with their service, very picky and very controlled.

Service does not equal submission




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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 9:47:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a service oriented switch because it's in my nature, and thus I serve out of duty. I was raised that way, whether it was intentional or not. I've found the trats enough of use in day to day life that I haven't tried to weed them out of my personality.

However.

I serve Daddy out of devotion to and love for him. I learn him, try to anticipate his desires and needs (which is his preference) and am genuinely concerned for his well being. I can bottom to others, but I'm Daddy's girl.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 10:34:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		it's not fear and/or my duty to serve my Daddy.  though it's not romantic connection, i serve because i love and respect Him ...and i enjoy doing it too. 

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/2/2007 11:27:37 PM   
iceraven


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Service does not equal submission
Final some one gets it
I help those around me often not because I am submitting but because of the circumstances.
Example I did the dished at a friends house (to tell you the truth I hate the guy) once not because I I felt like doing something productive. Ever after he expected me to do it. (I hope I interpreted that the way you intended)

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 12:26:13 AM   
MasterNdorei


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Status: offline 		There are things i do a certain way because i am afraid of disapointing Him. It is easier to do it the way He prefers than to rock the boat, so to speak. As a slave my ability to avoid disapointing Him is very important to me. It is not the kind of fear mentioned by the OP, but it is fear.

i am also motivated by duty, devotion to Him, devotion to my commitment of raising the quality of life for Him, my love for Him, my love of service as an artistic expression... It is a complex thing to seperate and explain all that motivates me... i will keep thinking about this one...

Master's dorei

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 3:23:21 AM   
jauntyone


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Status: offline 		Greetings
 
Many different factors go into my need for service. I am submissive by nature, which in turn causes me to pander to others out of a need to fulfill myself. I am a slave to Master, which causes me to pander to and serve him out of love, respect, and loyalty. I serve simply because when all the factors are put together, I can do no other. Sometimes out of love, sometimes out of respect, NEVER out of fear or duty.
 
I wish you well
 
melissa

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 4:17:20 AM   
StellaByStarlite


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I serve because I have a deep need to feel useful. =)

It may or may not have anything to do with love. I love my owner, but my love for him might not have anything to do with my urge to serve in any capacity. He could wake up tomorrow and tell me he no longer wants an O/s relationship, and it wouldn't affect the love I have for him. Serving him is the best way ( for me) to show him my love, but it's just an extension right now, not the core.

Stella

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 4:28:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		i seem to have a great need to please a Real Man sexually and general behavior. loving Master gives my need to please a dimension undreamed of by me.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 5:12:31 AM   
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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 5:51:32 AM   
starshineowned


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I can't say that it has ever been driven out of love. Any situation that I became a part of was done with no love involved initially but for some situations did grow to incorporate that.

Devotion/duty...Having alittle trouble rapping this into my brain in a M/s dynamic as it makes me think that it's based on love or obligation. Being a slave to me isn't a matter of love or obligation to a Owner. I'm slave..thats simple enough.

Fear...yes but before the fact of being owned or not owned. The fear of never or not being allowed to be just what I am. Fear within the M/s dynamic only to the point of not being pleasing or of value, and subsequently let go..which would bring me right back to the fear of not being able to live as I am.

Well Wishes
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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 6:29:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the past I did it solely out of love for him.

Now, I do it out of love for myself.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 6:43:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I have an urge to serve, its out of a sense of being called to serve, so to me the answer to the "why question" is devotion. Often, devotion merges with affection and is difficult to distinguish from love in the sense you're speaking of.  (I don't know why you're treating duty and devotion as being the same.  To me they feel very different with devotion being closer to love than duty.)

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 7:11:32 AM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		greetings,

i serve out of love and, perhaps, devotion (although it's not a "has to" thing, it's more of a "want to" thing...He wouldn't want someone who felt obligated, anyway).

annabelle.


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