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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 7:23:41 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		I serve out of deep devotion and very strong love. 

I have served out orf fear with my late Master.  It is not a good place to be.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 8:14:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Funny, I was just asked this last night.  My response was, more or less...to please, to be pleasing, to care for and nurture, to explore, and to seek extreme intimacy and bonding.  I may be leaving something out, as I originally answered this rather late at night, but that was the gist of it.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 4:26:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fear? Maybe of the relationship ending and so on like my first, but of her and such? No. Doubt I would fear the next Domme either. Of course, would be nice to see one be able to cause fear in me...not counting ending the relationship that trick will work to well the second time...while still keeping my trust.

Duty/Devotion, that is a given for me in regards to serving a Domme, just waiting to a Domme I trust and like to truely show it.

Love something I would like to avoid as long as possible, even in a relationship considering it can effect me emotionally.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 6:39:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I serve because it fullfills something inside of me.  Makes me feel good about me.  i also love to do things for others, knowing i have done something - for some one else - and brightened there day - makes me feel even better.  i like to do things for others. 

i like serving Master best because he literally and always - notices!  It feels good to do things for others, but to have some one give me feedback - rocks.  There is no task that i can do around Master that he doesnt appreciate.  It makes him happy  = ) 

So for me........

To do something for some one else - good stuff.
To know they appreciate it - double the pleasure
To literally hear how pleased they are - triple the pleasure.
To know i've pleased, made happy, done some good for some one i love - priceless

the best i can explain it....... its not something i generally analyze.  If it FEELS good DO it.


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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/3/2007 6:58:10 PM   
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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/4/2007 9:58:45 PM   
TexasMaam


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Status: offline 		So, farmlandsub, tell us: why do YOU serve?

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/4/2007 10:54:01 PM   
babysnuggie


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Status: offline 		I would like to serve because I want to be helpful and make Mistress' life one of happiness and pleasant. It is just something I have always wanted to do. To be useful and full of love.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 1:05:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Does one serve for one of these three reasons?  If so, which of the three?  Or do you serve for an entirely different reason, or emotion, not included here?"
 
I applaud such a thought provoking theme. So, in keeping with the ".... thinking out loud ...." thingy:

Fear - Does one serve out of fear? Fear of losing ones Dom/Master? Fear of what She/He will do if one does not obey? Fear of having things with held?
 
i do not serve out of fear yet i do serve when fearful of losing my Master for any reason for without Him there will be no more climaxes for me ever ... He has me trained "on command" so without Him i am finished ... when i do not obey it is not fear that makes me obey, it is the fear of having it with held ... for that is the greater pain and torture for me .....

Duty/Devotion - Does one feel she/he has to serve because it is ones duty/devotion? one only serves because it is expected?

i do not serve because it is expected, nor is it duty or devotion .... none of these .... i serve because it pleases me to be the one allowed to please Him ... i see this as my gift to my Master .... it is one of many things i can give Him of myself freely .... i also serve Him because i am His slave, His painslut, His whore ..... it gives me great pleasure to be these things for Him ... it's a Catch 22, the more He is pleased the happier and more willing i am to serve ....
 
Love - Or does one serve out of love for ones Dom/Master? Not necessarily a romantic love but a genuine love for the person? Does one serve because that service is how one shows their love and respect for ones Dom/Master? 

yes, i serve Him out of love, both romantic and genuine love for Him, for the love He returns, for the respect He deserves .... it is in the obedient giving of service to Him (out of my Love for Him) that owns me,  i do indeed receive just as much love back from Him .... to see the smile on His face and feel the joy in His heart makes being of service to Him the easiest thing on earth to do ...
 


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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 3:48:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have this need,.this incredible need to serve in any manner He wishes, because I need to be of use to Him, because I adore Him completely, because I wish to be the reason for the light in His dark eyes and that beautiful smile set upon those cruel lips. In His pleasure of me, I am complete.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 7:21:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I serve because it makes me feel useful. It is something aobut wanting to help where i can for whomever that might be. Through the service, I find i feel better about myself. I come from a community where "it takes a tribe to survive" so it is really embedded in me that in my helping things will run better.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 10:30:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: farmlandsub
Does one serve for one of these three reasons?  If so, which of the three?  Or do you serve for an entirely different reason, or emotion, not included here?


I serve my Master because I love him, yes...but that would not be enough, in and of itself, for me to do so. I serve because it pleases me to do so, and thus, is selfish. I serve him because it is satisfying to me to do so- and I do not serve others at the expense of myself, nor do I extend my services without reason or a mutual benefit.

That's not to say that I am "picky" about it, as LA mentioned, though- I don't sit there and say "well, I don't want to do this, because I don't like it, and thus it doesn't satisfy me to do so", etc.- I know that regardless of the type of service he is asking of me, I have my reward in my own pleasure of seeing his satisfaction and happiness. This is why I see service and my relationship with him as a trade agreement- we both derive equal good from what is done, regardless of who is doing what.

behindmirrors.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 11:05:17 AM   
sublizzie


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Status: offline 		I serve because I must. It is a deep-down embedded part of my soul. By serving I am sharing a part of my soul with whomever I am serving. It is almost never out of fear, not always out of duty or devotion, and not necessarily out of love. Sometimes it just *is*.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 11:22:37 AM   
yenlui


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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 11:34:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: farmlandsub

i recently heard a speaker talk about the nature of service, and he said that he believes there are three emotions that motivate one to serve.

Fear

Does one serve out of fear? Fear of losing ones Dom/Master? Fear of what She/He will do if one does not obey? Fear of having things with held?


Duty/Devotion

Does one feel she/he has to serve because it is ones duty/devotion? one only serves because it is expected?



Love

Or does one serve out of love for ones Dom/Master? Not necessarily a romantic love but a genuine love for the person? Does one serve because that service is how one shows their love and respect for ones Dom/Master?

i'm just thinking out loud here.
Does one serve for one of these three reasons?  If so, which of the three?  Or do you serve for an entirely different reason, or emotion, not included here?


I serve because it gives me joy to know that I am of use to another.

I serve because I love Master and my self enought to know that in service is where I am happy and where I belong at this point in my life.

I serve because I'm good at it.
 
I serve because in returne Master cherishes me for my service to him. I'm his pet, his servent, and his friend.


Shylah

< Message edited by Shylahgirl -- 4/5/2007 11:37:25 AM >

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 12:20:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: farmlandsub

i recently heard a speaker talk about the nature of service, and he said that he believes there are three emotions that motivate one to serve.

Fear

Does one serve out of fear? Fear of losing ones Dom/Master? Fear of what She/He will do if one does not obey? Fear of having things with held?


Duty/Devotion

Does one feel she/he has to serve because it is ones duty/devotion? one only serves because it is expected?



Love

Or does one serve out of love for ones Dom/Master? Not necessarily a romantic love but a genuine love for the person? Does one serve because that service is how one shows their love and respect for ones Dom/Master?

i'm just thinking out loud here.
Does one serve for one of these three reasons?  If so, which of the three?  Or do you serve for an entirely different reason, or emotion, not included here?


Why does Tiger Woods golf, or Venus and Serena Williams engage others in the sport of tennis?
 
Taking monetary gain and celebrity reasons out of the equation, this slave would imagine that they have been trained and encouraged since childhood, by their parents and others, to submit to the training and the dicipline necessary to excel in those choices for their life...and they probably have a good amount of natural talent, as well.
 
Why do folks enter into religious or spiritual service, i.e. priest, priestess, monk, Master Skip Chasey, etc.?
 
this slave would imagine they feel internally compelled, even called to service by something they envision is bigger and more powerful than they are...that they submit to that something and enter into a life of training, service & discipline for the greater good of themselves and others.
 
this slave chose this path of service for all of the reasons stated above that apply to Mr. Woods, the Williams sisters and Master Skip.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 2:00:06 PM   
subiugo


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Status: offline 		Am i micounting or are much more female submissives replying to this posting then male submissives? And can we conclude 'the culture of servitude' does mean a lot more to female submissives then to male submissives? Once again, Supreme Goddess Lorena seems to be right when She states that men who are begging a Mistress to serve Her, really want that the Mistress serves the fetishes of the men...
i am a male submissive. Even in 'vanilla life' i am quite service oriented (i fetch coffees for everyone at the office, and i take care bringing the cups back to the kitchen). So it is normal that in settings where my submissive nature can play more fully, servitude is important to me.
So i was very happy to have found a Mistress Who makes the servitude of Her slaves the key point of Her philosophy. my daily prayers to Her start and end with 'in everything i do i must be serving my Goddess'. i can't say i serve Her out of love, because we are not in a love relationship. It is something natural AND practical to do. At the moment i feel that serving Her makes me more devoted to Her. By serving Her i discover Her needs are really superior to mine, and that makes me feel devoted. (For those wanting a good introduction... http://www.goddessclub.com/memberarea/sections/mensarticles/article03.html


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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 4:41:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		'Cause I like it.  It makes me wet.  Kinda straight frward for me.  I get my kicks this way.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/5/2007 5:25:31 PM   
subsa


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quote:

ORIGINAL: farmlandsub

Does one serve out of fear? Fear of losing ones Dom/Master? Fear of what She/He will do if one does not obey? Fear of having things with held?

there are times that i fear that i will lose Him.  but i don't serve because of it.  in a way i serve in spite of it.  fear is not a good long term motivator.  either you become immune to the fear or the fear consumes you. 


Duty/Devotion

Does one feel she/he has to serve because it is ones duty/devotion? one only serves because it is expected?
 
there are times i serve Him out of duty.  these are not the good times though.  i much prefer when i serve Him out of devotion.  when i feel i serve Him because He's so wonderful that to do any less is unthinkable. i don't give my service or submission lightly (not the same things).  the people i choose to serve instill in me the desire to serve (unless of course Master has commanded i serve someone. but then i'm serving Him not them)   i don't believe Master expects my service.  He loves it, He desires it, He cherishes it, but He believes it is my choice to give Him service.  at any time i have the right to call for a choice point. 

Love

Or does one serve out of love for ones Dom/Master? Not necessarily a romantic love but a genuine love for the person? Does one serve because that service is how one shows their love and respect for ones Dom/Master?
 
love, devotion...very similar in my mind.  but i do serve Him also because i love Him in a romantic sense.




but i also serve because it is my nature.  the level and type of service depends on the person/situation.  i serve my family members, i serve my boss, i serve my community.  i take pride in my service.  i think i do it well.  it comes very naturally to me in most cases.  i see a need and (if i am inspired by love, devotion or duty) i try to fill that need through my service. 

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/7/2007 3:11:21 PM   
farmlandsub


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Status: offline 		my service is out of a deep desire to serve Her because i love Maam so very much. my deepest desire is to full her every wish, and need.

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RE: Why does one serve? - 4/7/2007 3:17:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		am very grateful for all Y/your responses. i have learned some new reasons why one serves. And re-affirmed why i serve. Thank very much for Y/your wonderful responses.

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