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Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 7:53:56 AM

bandit25

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What does it mean when a woman is very bi-sexual? I mean you either are or you are not, right?

The other, bigger, thing I've been wondering about recently is...I see a LOT of doms complain about subs who only want someone to support them (or something like that). Yet, a lot of doms mention in their profile narrative that they are financially secure or that they are able to take care of their One. What's up with that?

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 7:58:55 AM

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What does it mean when a woman is very bi-sexual? I mean you either are or you are not, right?

Usually it means "She's a slut who will try and hump any female who seems willing."

I find it a very annoying phrase myself for the reason as you said, you are bi or not. Being "very bi" is just yet another way to make yourself sound cooler.

Now there is bi curious, and someone can be very comfortable with their bisexuality and very out about it- but in general people say "very bi" to mean "very horny to get with any decent enough woman who comes along"

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The other, bigger, thing I've been wondering about recently is...I see a LOT of doms complain about subs who only want someone to support them (or something like that). Yet, a lot of doms mention in their profile narrative that they are financially secure or that they are able to take care of their One. What's up with that?

Ahhh the double standards of the modern world. Wanting to support someone isn't the same as wanting a leech or to be someone's sugar daddy.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:03:03 AM

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What does it mean when a woman is very bi-sexual? I mean you either are or you are not, right?

That's a funny question. i never thought about it but i have said that about myself. What i mean when i say it is that i am VERY into women. Some women will do bi-sexual acts because they know it pleases their man/partner/dom, etc. i do it because i LOVE it, not just to please Master. Some women classify themselves as bi just because they have done a bisexual act or because they WOULD if asked/told to. i classify myself "very bi" because i am just as attracted to women as men in general.......slave luci

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:05:45 AM

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Ah, I kind of see it as being very unique...you either are unique or you're not. I hadn't much thought about it the way you explained it. I guess I think the same way LA does.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:07:44 AM

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I agree, wanting to support someone isn't the same as being a sugar daddy, but why mention that in a profile narrative? Why not wait until you're actually talking with someone you are interested in? I guess my point is that some women/men/sub/whatever might read that and figure they have a "live one".

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:11:34 AM

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I agree, wanting to support someone isn't the same as being a sugar daddy, but why mention that in a profile narrative? Why not wait until you're actually talking with someone you are interested in? I guess my point is that some women/men/sub/whatever might read that and figure they have a "live one".

That is their burden to bear. People bitch all the time about not getting the response they want, when very often it's their presentation which is causing that response.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:13:20 AM

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My point exactly LA.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:13:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: bandit25
What does it mean when a woman is very bi-sexual? I mean you either are or you are not, right?

Usually it means "She's a slut who will try and hump any female who seems willing."
What a judgemental, narrow minded thing to say. i assure you i don't "try and hump any female who seems willing." Read my other post here for an explanation of why i have said the phrase.

I find it a very annoying phrase myself for the reason as you said, you are bi or not. Being "very bi" is just yet another way to make yourself sound cooler.
Again, read my post. Yes, technically you are either "bi or not." But, as with anything, i think there are degrees. Consider a weather forecast. Tomorrow, it's either going to rain or it's not. There could be a 99% chance or a 2% chance. Makes a big difference to me which one when deciding whether or not to take my umbrella. Along the same lines, if i am going to "play" with another female, it's important to me to know if she is 95% into being with another girl or if she has about a 10% interest and is doing it because she's either being asked to or for some other reason. Sounding "cool" means nothing to me. i don't define myself as bi or very bi to sound cool to anyone.
Now there is bi curious, and someone can be very comfortable with their bisexuality and very out about it- but in general people say "very bi" to mean "very horny to get with any decent enough woman who comes along"
Again, a pretty judgemental label to lay on someone. Perhaps in your experience, you have some anecdotal evidence to "prove" this assumption. It certainly does not apply to me or any of the bi or "very bi" ladies i know. Sounds like there's a lot of anger behind these statements. i'm not sure why it annoys and upsets you so much for some one else to say they are "very bi." i think my explanation (not that one is needed) fully shows why i have used the statement. Again, i assure you it has nothing to do with being so horny i'll jump any female that walks by.....slave luci

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The other, bigger, thing I've been wondering about recently is...I see a LOT of doms complain about subs who only want someone to support them (or something like that). Yet, a lot of doms mention in their profile narrative that they are financially secure or that they are able to take care of their One. What's up with that?

Ahhh the double standards of the modern world. Wanting to support someone isn't the same as wanting a leech or to be someone's sugar daddy.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:17:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

What does it mean when a woman is very bi-sexual? I mean you either are or you are not, right?

The other, bigger, thing I've been wondering about recently is...I see a LOT of doms complain about subs who only want someone to support them (or something like that). Yet, a lot of doms mention in their profile narrative that they are financially secure or that they are able to take care of their One. What's up with that?

Very bi....perhaps as LA stated it could be an attempt to sound cooler....or possibly very bi could indicate that person almost perferring the same sex over the opposite......like not quite gay..lol

Financially secure is just a phrase used as an attempt to lure because they have little else if anything to offer besides a bank account, hoping that someone down on their luck will fall into the trap, the complaining comes in as an out, they dont like how the person looks, their attitude, whatever, and then accuse them of being nothing more than a gold digger which is probably not far from the truth..LOL.....I personally find it offensive and if I was not owned would not even contact or reply to someone that feels they have to state they are financially secure.
Things that make ya go.....hhhhmmmmmm.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:20:54 AM

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To me being "very bi" means that you arer more attracted to the same sex than the opposite sex as a general rule. I list myself as bi because i have no ick factor involved in being with a female and have always found naked females attractive. But given a choice i prefer a male. In a group it matters less and i know with the right female i could be content with only her, but it's going to be harder for me to get to that place with a female.

The financial support/compensation thing is always a tough issue. I haven't figured it out myself yet

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:26:54 AM

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When I saw that phrase I have always thought it meant that the female was not engaging in bisexual acts to please a man, but because it was her desire. Lets face it, many women that do the bi thing are often doing it because their man wants them to. "Very bi" means to me that the female would be willing to switch teams regardless of who was in her life. But I may have mistaken the term

One of my friends that swings mentioned to me that there are a few categories for bisexual behavior in that subculture

1)bi social (willing to touch slightly, dance, rub, kiss perhaps, but no sex)

2)bi curious (willing to have sex with the same sex for the pleasure of a partner)

3) bisexual (attracted to the same sex)

When she talked about this she was relating where she was on the scale and she used the term "very bisexual" to denote women she was not interested in swinging with because they were interested in her more than her partner. She is between bisocial and bicurious and does not hold an attraction for women.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:27:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: slaveluci
Again, a pretty judgemental label to lay on someone. Perhaps in your experience, you have some anecdotal evidence to "prove" this assumption. It certainly does not apply to me or any of the bi or "very bi" ladies i know. Sounds like there's a lot of anger behind these statements. i'm not sure why it annoys and upsets you so much for some one else to say they are "very bi." i think my explanation (not that one is needed) fully shows why i have used the statement. Again, i assure you it has nothing to do with being so horny i'll jump any female that walks by.....slave luci

You must have missed the very first word of my post "Usually."

Anger? No.

It doesn't upset me, it annoys me because of how often people use it as if it's some badge of honor or I'm supposed to be impressed with it.

It's my post and I'll be annoyed if I want to. :)

Experience? Maybe some.

Explanation? Well I wasn't the one who asked the question- but obviously there's at least one person around here who finds it an odd thing to say. While you don't NEED to give a response to that person, it's certainly the main reason people tend to hang around here.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:28:20 AM

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Hmmmmm! Don't think I will be able to sleep unless we get these two questions of yours resolved...

Bi or very bi?....That is the question...Well lets say that bandit25 and Domiguy were to hook up....I would immediately suggest that we go shopping for a bandit26 and 27 and 28...And so on ...And so on....Anywhoo I would have bandit25 attract bandit 26-30 by mentioning in her profile that she is bi.....If however she were to state that she were very bi or as I like to say "bi-plus"....This would simply mean in my mind that she possibly would prefer eating vagina more than she would enjoy tongue lashing the Domidong.....Thank God this is a fictitious scenario....Because even lesbo's love the Domidong.

As far as dudes mentioning anything about their financial situation is a complete sign of weakness....It is using money as an attraction because the Dom feels insecure about their own worth.....Anyone who mentions their finances is a pud. Anyone who responds, will earn every penny they receive....Both are losers in the Domiguy handbook (Which is available for $18.99 at most respected retail outlets)

Also bandit25...No need to thank me...but I offered up your name in the "Black Dom" thread as a potential partner for the op....Have fun!!!

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:41:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
You must have missed the very first word of my post "Usually."
Nope, i read it right. Saying it "usually" means that is saying that most of the time it means that and i disagree, thus my post.
Anger? No.
Ok.
It doesn't upset me, it annoys me because of how often people use it as if it's some badge of honor or I'm supposed to be impressed with it.
That COULD be the case if the person saying it gave a rat's ass about "some badge of honor" or "impress"ing others. i, however, do not and am not "bi" because it's cool. Doing it because it's "cool" goes back to what i was saying. Anyone who does that is NOT "very" bi.

It's my post and I'll be annoyed if I want to. :)
Yep...your right. Be as annoyed as you like. i'm just attempting to show another viewpoint here.
Explanation? Well I wasn't the one who asked the question- but obviously there's at least one person around here who finds it an odd thing to say.
i think all of us on here find some of the things others say and do odd. i'd hate to think we didn't. But finding them odd and finding them wrong are two different things. The OP asked, i answered. The OP wasn't the one who went into great detail about how anyone who says it is somehow to be looked down upon.
While you don't NEED to give a response to that person, it's certainly the main reason people tend to hang around here.
Yeah, that's what i thought. That or the fact that people can ask others' opinions and they can answer without being told they are incorrect by those who think their way is the only way. THAT'S kinda what i thought forums were for....slave luci

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:45:13 AM

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possibly very bi could indicate that person almost perferring the same sex over the opposite......like not quite gay

Yes....being as into women as men but stopping just short of being a lesbian and preferring ONLY women. That's how i would descibe my perception of what the phrase means to me.........slave luci

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:47:05 AM

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Yeah, so I heard domiguy. Whatta pal you are. I think I'll troll the boards and see if I can return the favor.

I'll see your two paddles and raise you two.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:49:01 AM

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Nope, i read it right. Saying it "usually" means that is saying that most of the time it means that and i disagree, thus my post.

Do you think that no one ever uses is in that way?

Or that it's not very commonly used in that way?

I'm not sure if you're disagreeing over the idea itself, or merely the frequency.

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That COULD be the case if the person saying it gave a rat's ass about "some badge of honor" or "impress"ing others. i, however, do not and am not "bi" because it's cool. Doing it because it's "cool" goes back to what i was saying. Anyone who does that is NOT "very" bi.

I didn't say people said they were bi or acts bi to sound cool (anyone who knows the stigma that bisexuals get in the hetero and the homo scenes knows better than that), I said people who use the term "very bi" usually do so because they mean "She's a slut who will try and hump any female who seems willing."

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i think all of us on here find some of the things others say and do odd. i'd hate to think we didn't. But finding them odd and finding them wrong are two different things. The OP asked, i answered. The OP wasn't the one who went into great detail about how anyone who says it is somehow to be looked down upon.

I didn't say it was wrong, I didn't say ANYONE who says it means it that way, or that they should be looked down because of it.

You're placing a lot of assumptions on my posts here.

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Yeah, that's what i thought. That or the fact that people can ask others' opinions and they can answer without being told they are incorrect by those who think their way is the only way. THAT'S kinda what i thought forums were for....slave luci

Aren't you the one telling me that *I* am the incorrect one here and that your way is the right way?

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:53:00 AM

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What does it mean when a woman is very bi-sexual? I mean you either are or you are not, right?

When I hear that phrase it means that the woman really likes
having sex with other women, that she is more than just
curious or having female to female sex to please her Dom/me.

The other, bigger, thing I've been wondering about recently is...I see a LOT of doms complain about subs who only want someone to support them (or something like that). Yet, a lot of doms mention in their profile narrative that they are financially secure or that they are able to take care of their One. What's up with that?

The cultural expectation of a man being the provider to his
woman is still prevalent in our society. My take on stating
"financially secure" on a profile is that the man wants to
show himself in the best light, as being responsible and reliable.
No doubt he realizes that women complain about all of the
flakes and wankers on the Net. He is trying to improve his chances
at finding a partner.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 8:55:28 AM

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OhBeMyMind

Very bi....perhaps as LA stated it could be an attempt to sound cooler....or possibly very bi could indicate that person almost perferring the same sex over the opposite......like not quite gay..lol

I didn't read the posts before I posted....But I believe this sums it up quite well.....Rarely do I find a mind that can tackle a problem and reach the "right" conclusion....Truly there is genius at work in this one.

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RE: Couple of things I've wondered about - 4/3/2007 9:08:19 AM

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I never heard of this break down. I always thought "bi curious" meant you were curious about being intimate with someone of the same sex, but never acted on it.

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