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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 3:04:58 PM   
amuzingtoyou


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How exactly do you "KNOW" it works for sure. I wonder if guys realize how easy it is for girls to fake an orgasm. Unless she is squirting in your face, don't be so sure.
missi

and btw the alphabet thing wouldn't work on me becaue its pressure that works not vibrations..pressure..lots and lots of pressure...

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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 3:29:27 PM   
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If one understands women bodies, there are any number of quite obvious signs of both arousal and orgasm.

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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 3:40:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: amuzingtoyou

N4SD,
How exactly do you "KNOW" it works for sure. I wonder if guys realize how easy it is for girls to fake an orgasm. Unless she is squirting in your face, don't be so sure.
missi

and btw the alphabet thing wouldn't work on me becaue its pressure that works not vibrations..pressure..lots and lots of pressure...


Just one little note here........ a woman can squirt (ejaculate) without having an orgasm, so even squirting isn't a sure sign you made her orgasm.

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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 3:57:17 PM   
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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 4:09:38 PM   
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Amazing,

If one understands women bodies, there are any number of quite obvious signs of both arousal and orgasm.


What HE said...

There are certain, undeniably physiological autonomic reactions that BODIES go through, during orgasm.  For me, its my "O"-face.  Looks kinda like a cross between that dog from MIB and getting your pubes caught inna zipper.  Once my patent app is approved I'll let you all know how you can tell with Wemens

EDYT:  //shruggs...  ::wemens like to THINK they're a mystery, but...  meh!  Not so much, not if you pay attention.  After almost 40 years of paying attention (i dint start until I was 5, so...), I "gettit" when I want to.  Most times it's not RILLY worth it to take the time needed to "want to"

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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 4:44:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER

I love oral sex both giving and receiving.SOME subs refuse to let their dom go down on them as they feel its not the thing for a dominant to do.



I agree. In My experience I must of encountered this about 20 times.

I have wondered if it was a previous experience of abuse as those that did were EXCELLENT in giving head.

Ross
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My therapist, who is very D/s understanding, has tried to get into my psyche to understand my need to give excellent head, they are not "just blowjobs"...they are a work of labored passion and submission.
 
I would never want a Dom to go south on me. My therapist and I also try to figure this out.  It is embarassing to me.  Luckily for me, the 2 Doms I have known intensely, have not wanted to venture south.
 
I guess to the OP, it is my taboo.

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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 5:30:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh god how much I love violating a taboo.  The mere fact you DON'T want to do would mean I would very very much WANT to do it and would patiently work TILL not only I HAD done it but that you craved it.

'Course I am sick arrogant bastard who loves pushing limits...

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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 6:05:50 PM   
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RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 6:08:18 PM   
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Ms C,

Performing oral sex on a woman is hard for some men because they do not understand that every woman's body is different.  I know some women who you can suck JUST their clit into your mouth, suck and nibble on it and they go mad with pleasure, other's like yourself would just get mad...

The trick is to first understand that for MOST women while pleasure is centered around the clit, that you need to discover how much sensation is right, starting soft and then slowly adding sensation till you get it right.  I start with the lightest of butterflies with my tongue, so light some women might not even notice. 

If they are sensitive...
  • only the softest caresses with the tongue direct perhaps none at all if they are really sensitive.  If so, then start soft and find the right pressure near or around the clit.  I dance my tongue most in air so that it feels like a butterfly when it just touches the high point of the clit or whatever I am aiming for.


    If they like lots of pressure...
      All sorts of things, sucking the clit into the mouth can be hot, it is like firecupping/hickies, it releases endorphins AND pleasure.
      VERY light biting or not...
      Sucking the clit into the mouth and then shaking your head side to side or pumping it up and down while pressed against the clit


      Misc.
          Again, depending on the woman, few really enjoy being pumped with a finger.  HOWEVER, sliding one in and playing the G spot often DOES work.
          Pulsing that or any play with the same motion as the tongue so every bit of sensation you are giving comes in the same rhythm, REALLY works on someone who has a hard time cumming, it sort of makes sorting out the sensation easier or something
          Again, women differ, some are not into anal sex but simply touching, especially when they are close to cumming, their area around or on their ass often yields yelps of pleasure, again, pulsing that with your tongue works.
          Finger in both, priceless...


      I don't recommend this for male submissives but grabbing the bitches hair and lifting her head up so she HAS to look at you, especially a bit before she comes, lock eyes with her, shake your head no and slow down so they DON'T cum...

      Oh, and LA, I have my red wings too so PLENTY of us dominants LOVE eating pussy!



      Dear God!!!  Anybody have a towel?  I needed a cigarette after that!

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 6:09:12 PM   
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      Oh god how much I love violating a taboo.  The mere fact you DON'T want to do would mean I would very very much WANT to do it and would patiently work TILL not only I HAD done it but that you craved it.

      'Course I am sick arrogant bastard who loves pushing limits...


      That sounds like something i would  say. I have been trying to explain this to a current interest of mine. "NO"  and "Limit" means try a different approach to me. In the end the only limits you should have are the ones i give you.

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 7:00:32 PM   
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      I think that what I wrote and what you are thinking of differ greatly.  Pushing isn't the same as violating and the ONLY thing I spoke of violating were taboos not limits.

      Not only that the nature of the limit makes a VAST difference in whether I would push or avoid a limit. 

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 7:42:11 PM   
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      i personaly believe that some men seriously think that its going to bite them(it aint a real cat guys, pussy is just a slang term...then again, the people who animated "la blue girl" took the name a little too seriously..maybe they were vagina-phobes too?). when ever i hear that someone will NOT give oral sex to a woman no matter what, i always ask then; do you like getting your dick sucked? the answer is always a very swift "of course"(after they get over the initial shock of being asked the question in the first place, mind you) i then continue by detailing to them just how DISGUSTING sucking dick can really be. note to guys; you are not sweet candy fresh down there all day any more then we are. you ooze more disgusting fluids then we do(and all at one time at the end!) and believe me, pubic hair scratching my face or caught in my teeth is not the best way to turn me on, especially if after you cum you wont even think about giving me a well deserved orgasm of my own.

      i once had a bf before enterting the lifestyle who wouldnt go down on me. i fixed that rather quickly by withholding oral sex and handjobs from him until he at least tried. the nimrod bit me accidentaly, but it was worth a shot, yeah?

      (btw, i know that some people actually do find giving blowjobs to be a pleasureable experience, and like the tastes and sensations that go along with it; above is my own personal opinion. though i enjoy ever second of giving my Dom pleasure, the act itself is not exactly one of my favorites)

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 7:53:47 PM   
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      This comment is the one I agree most with so far. Don't get me wrong. I love instructing my submissives to perform oral sex on me and as a Domme I can use oral sex to control my submissives in many ways. However there is something that goes off in my brain that disconnects me from outside of my head. I slip into fantasies too and they are addictive. I found myself slipping into these disconnected thoughts in order to orgasm during oral sex.

      It would be powerful but lonely and only when it was over could I begin to think about my partner. 

      and the problem with this would be...?




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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/8/2007 10:31:09 PM   
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      ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

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      ORIGINAL: MistressSandra2U

      This comment is the one I agree most with so far. Don't get me wrong. I love instructing my submissives to perform oral sex on me and as a Domme I can use oral sex to control my submissives in many ways. However there is something that goes off in my brain that disconnects me from outside of my head. I slip into fantasies too and they are addictive. I found myself slipping into these disconnected thoughts in order to orgasm during oral sex.

      It would be powerful but lonely and only when it was over could I begin to think about my partner. 

      and the problem with this would be...?





      I too thought there was something "wrong" with me for needing to fantasise to reach orgasm and therefore not being aware and connected to my submissive during sex

      Went to a psychiatrist to get fixed.  be more loving, less remote.

      Know what I found out?

      LOTS of women fantasise to get off!  Its very common.  Men can get off totally on physical sensation but women usually (yes, usually) need to 'go some place else" in their heads.

      Guilt trip OVER!!!!!  

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/9/2007 6:08:22 AM   
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      ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007

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      Oh god how much I love violating a taboo.  The mere fact you DON'T want to do would mean I would very very much WANT to do it and would patiently work TILL not only I HAD done it but that you craved it.

      'Course I am sick arrogant bastard who loves pushing limits...


      That sounds like something i would  say. I have been trying to explain this to a current interest of mine. "NO"  and "Limit" means try a different approach to me. In the end the only limits you should have are the ones i give you.


      Taboo does not equal hard limit nor would I refuse.  After all, he does own my body.  And yes, in the end, if he chooses to do so,  I would need to wrap my mind around it.   

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/9/2007 6:42:12 AM   
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      Status: offline       		Oral sex for me is more pleasurable if he's also using his hands on my nipples. But I tend to tense up when he does it because every so often he gets the urge to bite, and the fear that this will be one of those times is enough that I usually don't climax from oral sex anymore.

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/9/2007 7:20:34 AM   
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      Being a dominant I realize that sometimes our fantasies outrun either reality or the abilities/limits of our submissives but one would think that you could bring enough into real life that one wouldn't need to do that all the time.

      Someone very special to me does this as well but I plan on bringing every skill, every talent, and every ounce of creativity I have to bear and one of my most intent goals is to gaze into her open eyes as her body convulses in pleasure.

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/9/2007 7:39:37 AM   
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      MsC,

      Being a dominant I realize that sometimes our fantasies outrun either reality or the abilities/limits of our submissives but one would think that you could bring enough into real life that one wouldn't need to do that all the time.



      Nope.  I always have (and need to have) extremely violent S&M fantasies to get off.  Much more violent than anything I would do in real life.  Staying 'fully present" kills it for me.

      I tried to fix this need for violent fantasies, then met a submissive who said "don't let doctors fix anything.  I love you just the way you are". 

      he is OK with it, so I am too (now). 

      We cannot help being primarily sadomasochists and are lucky to have eachother :)



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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/9/2007 7:44:39 AM   
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      OK back on topic

      The worst oral sex in my life?

      Once I dated a cute, kinky dentist who had a terrible dribbling problem.  It was icky enough kissing on the mouth but when he went down there....EEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!!  Rivlets down your bottom, puddles on the sheets.........I  had to dump him. 

      I never told him it was the dribbling.  I thought it would be kinder to say "I met someone else" than "you dribble down there and its gross". 

      Should I have been honest???

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      RE: Oral sex taboo? - 4/9/2007 7:47:03 AM   
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      I just laughed so hard I splattered Fanta on my laptop screen

      OK, I had better say something on topic

      Noticed the weirdest thing about my new sub the other day.  When he finished, his mouth was full with his cheeks bulging and he then spat it all out into a tissue

      I asked "WHAT are you doing???"

      he said he doesn't swallow when he goes down on a woman

      What the?  I have never seen that before.   I told him he had better learn to swallow quick smart.  This boy is 39 not 19!!

      Anyone else out there not a swallower??




      Can i borrow Your cloth, i have coffee everywhere after reading this posting.... OMG the guy held it all in his mouth hahahahahahahaha, if You had of kept him there for long enough i wonder if it would of burst outta his mouth just like my coffee did when i read this posting Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (manic laughter)

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