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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 1:10:18 PM   
BobcatsLilMinx


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Status: offline 		Hi cello!

Well, you helped brighten my day too, by writing out such a nice message!

I'm actually 19... The only reason my profile says 21, is that I editted it a while ago, but for some reason collarme wouldn't recognise 19 as being "of age" in the UK... so I had to change my age to update it. Guess that qualifies me to be your daughter even more!

I'm very happy that you enjoy reading my posts *smiles* Always happy to please.

Minx

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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 1:22:06 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Status: offline 		Ahh age issues and bdsm...I could go on!

Just watch out, many a time someone praises your "wisdom beyond your years" when they like/agree with what you say, just to turn around and chastise your "lack of experience and understanding at your age" when they don't.

Not that something like that would ever happen here...:)

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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 1:35:34 PM   
siamsa24


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Not that something like that would ever happen here...:)


Of course not.........no one here would ever make age an issue in a debate

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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 1:44:26 PM   
BobcatsLilMinx


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Just watch out, many a time someone praises your "wisdom beyond your years" when they like/agree with what you say, just to turn around and chastise your "lack of experience and understanding at your age" when they don't.


*laughs* yeah, I've had that one happen... Still, a compliment is a compliment when it's said, even if it gets taken back later.

Y'all can say what you like.... I will admit freely that I am lacking in experience/ understanding in certain areas! Which is why I love reading all the different perspectives on these forums.

Age and BDSM... that ones been done to death, at least, feels that way to me. If I'm old enough to have sex, I'm old enough to know I'm submissive; And if I'm old enough to have a boyfriend, I'm old enough to have a Master. So long as he doesn't mind my areas of immaturity, thats what counts to me. And to hte rest of the world, so long as he recognises my need to be a child as well as a slave, well, what is there to worry about?

He said he'd buy me a dollshouse... He promised!! *giggles*

Eagerly anticipating said dollshouse,
Minx

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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 4:15:03 PM   
lil1v


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ORIGINAL: BobcatsLilMinx

He said he'd buy me a dollshouse... He promised!! *giggles*

Eagerly anticipating said dollshouse,
Minx



*giggles* Can I come over and play with it too?

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE?




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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 4:25:55 PM   
BobcatsLilMinx


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Status: offline 		Sure!! After we lynch all the mean people who talk about real slaves, we'll go sit on the porch and have a tea party with the dolls!!

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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 6:14:33 PM   
cellogrrlMK


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BobcatsLilMinx

Hi cello!

Well, you helped brighten my day too, by writing out such a nice message!

I'm actually 19... The only reason my profile says 21, is that I editted it a while ago, but for some reason collarme wouldn't recognise 19 as being "of age" in the UK... so I had to change my age to update it. Guess that qualifies me to be your daughter even more!

I'm very happy that you enjoy reading my posts *smiles* Always happy to please.

Minx


True Minx, I do remember your saying in one of your very early posts that you are 19... all the more proof that you've got your head together! And trust me, if you ever say anything I disagree with you can always refer back to this post where I will now claim that I really really doubt I will ever say you lack experience or understanding <wink>.

cello

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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 6:20:06 PM   
cellogrrlMK


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ORIGINAL: BobcatsLilMinx

Y'all can say what you like.... I will admit freely that I am lacking in experience/ understanding in certain areas! Which is why I love reading all the different perspectives on these forums.



I agree with you AGAIN Minx (omg). I'm most likely a relative newbie to the area of BDSM, having only discovered that the feelings I've always had actually have a name in the past oh, year and a half or so. So I'm sure I'm lacking there!

I think most people lack in experience/understanding in some aspects of life that they aren't exposed to regularly. I wouldn't expect you or any non-musicians here to understand areas of what I do for a living, just as I don't think I could be expected to understand say, the world of a stock broker or a doctor or any number of avocations people have.

We're always learning I hope; I try to anyway.

cello

< Message edited by cellogrrlMK -- 4/19/2005 6:21:23 PM >

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RE: Real slaves - 4/19/2005 6:58:32 PM   
perverseangelic


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ORIGINAL: BobcatsLilMinx

Sure!! After we lynch all the mean people who talk about real slaves, we'll go sit on the porch and have a tea party with the dolls!!



You made my day. Can I -please- put this in my AIM profile, and maybe in my forum signature at another forum? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

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RE: Real slaves - 4/20/2005 4:29:22 AM   
BobcatsLilMinx


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Can I -please- put this in my AIM profile, and maybe in my forum signature at another forum? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?


Wow!! Maybe I should start copyrighting my posts!!

Of course you can perverseangelic, but I expect a dollar for royalties everytime you use it.

*giggles* no, joking... feel free to use it! And thanks for asking permission first, that's really appreciated *smiles*

Take care
Minx

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RE: Real slaves - 4/20/2005 4:40:45 AM   
DesertRat


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Status: offline 		Wow! It's so early here and I am in a sleep/coffee twilight land.

So I have this image of my sexy little Minxy girl out on the brick deck, sitting in the shade with her friends. They're all sitting in a semicircle with a little table and a big dollhouse in the middle. Minx is pouring pretend teaparty tea for all her girlfriends. Just a nice little girl teaparty....a little different, though, cuz the girls are all wearing collars and sexy clothes, and.....the image gets fuzzy.....good, but fuzzy.....

Bob

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RE: Real slaves - 4/20/2005 5:19:27 AM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Status: offline 		Post are already copyrighted :) It's an automatic thing for all creative works unless it's a "work for hire." If you send a letter to someone, it's still YOUR work and they can't use it without permission.

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RE: Real slaves - 4/20/2005 4:35:47 PM   
lil1v


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BobcatsLilMinx

Sure!! After we lynch all the mean people who talk about real slaves, we'll go sit on the porch and have a tea party with the dolls!!


quote:

ORIGINAL: Desertrat

So I have this image of my sexy little Minxy girl out on the brick deck, sitting in the shade with her friends. They're all sitting in a semicircle with a little table and a big dollhouse in the middle. Minx is pouring pretend teaparty tea for all her girlfriends. Just a nice little girl teaparty....a little different, though, cuz the girls are all wearing collars and sexy clothes, and.....the image gets fuzzy.....good, but fuzzy.....


*laughs so hard she nearly pees*

Innocent little tea party turns pervy. umm.. Minx, I might have to reconsider this party idea. *grins*



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RE: Real slaves - 4/25/2005 2:49:23 AM   
slavinnen


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Status: offline 		I am a norwegian slavegirl...
- age 43, with 25 years in the llifestyle.
And still I get provoced when someone "grades" others into "not a real slave", or other things.

None of us are the same.
None of us a alike.
None of us have the complete same background, experiences, preferances.
We all develope (or at least I hope we all do !) over time, and our experiences makes us who we are.

What may feel "real" for me, may feel "unreal" for an other person...
- but still I can NOT say that I am more "real" than she/he is !
And they have no rigth to claim to be more "real" than me...

I know what feels right for me, in MY life, with MY partner.
He knows what feels rigth for him, in HIS life, with me.
We are so lucky that we have found each other, and are a match.

But our way of living may be completely wrong for another person !

What someone feel is rigth for them, are rigth for them !
Maybe totally wrong for you, or me, or tousands of others...
- but STILL rigth for that special person.

Who dear to be God, and tell someone that what they feel is important in their life, is wrong ?

Everyone have their own preferences. Can't we just respect that ?

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RE: Real slaves - 4/25/2005 5:14:41 AM   
velvetvixen


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Status: offline 		If a prosepective second girl started questioning my place beside Master, I wouldn't feel too put out by it. Questioning your role in the selection process is really questioning his decision as Master. Maybe she really doesn't want to be the second.

Give her a copy of The Velveteen Rabbit and send her on her way.

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RE: Real slaves - 4/25/2005 5:41:26 AM   
Interesdom


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Status: offline 		I know I'm coming late to this but while I'm drinking my first coffee of the day...

quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2
*sprinkling slave dust over you*

Now you're a REAL slave.

Wow, does that stuff work on any vanilla woman, too?

quote:

ORIGINAL: passionpromise
...It is the owned property of someone else ...

Great to see a bit of realism creeping in. It's one thing to enjoy calling yourself (or being called) 'slave' for kicks but quite another to actually be a slave. Hence the reason why we get discussions over whether someone is a "real" slave. <ducks out the way of Minx's strangling hands>

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ORIGINAL: junecleaver
...that's very rude of her. You should tell your Master about this behavior. When she insults his property, she insults him.

I like much of what june says but just because someone doesn't think much of my car, my house, my slave, is no reason for me to feel insulted. I either agree with them (yes, my car is getting a bit old) or not (I happen to like this car). No reason for me to feel insulted. On the other point here, I personally demand complete honesty, openness and exposure from my slave. I certainly would expect to be told anything that might affect a major decision, such as acquiring a new slave.

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ORIGINAL: slaveanwyl
Masters i would ask a question...

You didn't actually ask a question but I presume you are wondering if you are a slave or not. I wonder why it is important to you? What is important is whether you being everything your Master wants you to be.

Some indications of slavery: you have no property, you are property; you place no limits upon your Master's use of you beyond self-preservation (and, perhaps, care of children); if you were sent to the other side of the world to undertake some responsibility for six months, you would still know that you are owned.

But really, it doesn't matter. Being fulfilled and doing your utmost to obey and please your Master - that is what is important.

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RE: Real slaves - 4/30/2005 7:36:41 PM   
dragonofjapan


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ORIGINAL: passionpromise
Firstly the word slave has been around for 1,000's of years. It is most basic form. It is the owned property of someone else that is bought or sold and yes even stolen and can be done with in the soul purpose of its Owner. Yes put on a pedastal or beaten beyond recognition, yes even snuffed. That is simply fact. And sticking one's head into the sand and pretending otherwise is just plain ridiculous. Redefining the word to make it have a pretty attraction gives false pretense to what it factually is...But if it eases your conscience....


I own a car. It is my property. I can do with it exactly what I want. I have noticed when it has no oil in its engine, no amount of beating makes it run better.

Some of the greatest architects, generals, administrators of city states were slaves.

Pushing the "stop" button, never seems to make my CD player play music.

When trying to get the herd moving in ONE direction, it is easier to have all in the herd facing in the same direction.

You are not "real" people, just figments of your own imagination.

Zip

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RE: Real slaves - 4/30/2005 8:22:50 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: dragonofjapan
I own a car. It is my property. I can do with it exactly what I want. I have noticed when it has no oil in its engine, no amount of beating makes it run better.

Some of the greatest architects, generals, administrators of city states were slaves.

Pushing the "stop" button, never seems to make my CD player play music.

When trying to get the herd moving in ONE direction, it is easier to have all in the herd facing in the same direction.

You are not "real" people, just figments of your own imagination.

Zip


I need an alert for whenever you post, you brilliant man ;)

- LA

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RE: Real slaves - 5/1/2005 3:16:25 AM   
allyC


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Status: offline 		Hola :)

I think that the word slave brings out all kinds of emotion and opinion from all sorts of lifestylers - everyone has their take on it.

quote:

It is the owned property of someone else that is bought or sold and yes even stolen and can be done with in the soul purpose of its Owner. Yes put on a pedastal or beaten beyond recognition, yes even snuffed. That is simply fact. And sticking one's head into the sand and pretending otherwise is just plain ridiculous. Redefining the word to make it have a pretty attraction gives false pretense to what it factually is...But if it eases your conscience....


I have always looked at it from a more literal standpoint.

Webster's has a few definitions for the word, slave. One of which is the following:

slave: n. One who is abjectly subservient to a dominating influence or force.

This definition says nothing of it being a legal condition, non consensual, forced, or abusive. It merely states that if person A. is abjectly subservient to person B., then person A, by definition, is a slave.

There are many words in the English language that have more than one definition. They don't all have to fit in order for the word to meet the definition's criteria.

For example, the word, reed. A reed is a marsh plant. A reed is also something that you put in your woodwind instrument that makes it work. They are both reeds but stuffing a cattail into your clarinet just isn't going to work. The same goes for the different definitions of the word slave. If one fits, then it fits, They don't all need to fit for it to be correct.

So to me, a "real" slave would be someone who fits the definition. Someone who is abjectly subervient. Not necessarily perfect, mind you, but subservient just the same. *grins*

Well wishes to everyone!

Cav's girl
ally{C}

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RE: Real slaves - 5/1/2005 6:13:26 AM   
subcheryl


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ORIGINAL: velvetvixen

If a prosepective second girl started questioning my place beside Master, I wouldn't feel too put out by it. Questioning your role in the selection process is really questioning his decision as Master. Maybe she really doesn't want to be the second.

Give her a copy of The Velveteen Rabbit and send her on her way.




I just wanted to say I agree with you velvetvixen, and was going to state more or less the same thing, that perhaps this slave doesn't want to be a second slave and hasn't realized it. My Master has posted to be a protector for a girl, and yes he did ask my feelings on the idea, and I will be honest, I did not like the idea at first and we had many discussions on it and he laid out what he was expecting from and had plans with the one who sought his protection. I would be his "alpha", he seeks my happiness as much as I seek to make him happy. Any slave that told me that I was not a true slave would certainly not get my seal of approval, and yes it is a good idea to save all conversations between you and prospective slaves. I am not unsure of my submission/slavery with master it comes as natural to me as breathing and Master is very HAPPY with my service to him and to me that is all that matters.

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