MsSilvie
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There is a world of difference between consensual slavery found in BDSM and "real" slavery. Slavery isn't a legal institution in the modern western society. Should master decide to snuff a slave on the courthouse steps, master certainly finds himself in jail for a very long time. No amount of delusional arguments of "she was my property, she didn't have rights" will make any difference. The law in the US recognizes that people have the right to withdraw consent. This is why, for example, a husband can be legally guilty of raping his wife. The case of Nebraska vs. Van is an example of that with that in regards to BDSM. As far as slaves having rights, again, I believe everyone, by the fact that they are human, has rights. History is full of examples of slaves "dismissing themselves" or otherwise escaping because they wanted freedom. Even if you want to look at examples of laws from different times and cultures where slavery was a legal status, many times, there were provisions that the owners had to provide a certain level of care, and often the slave could purchase themselves, if they had the money to do so. Again, bottom line, consensual slavery is not "real", it is an agreement made between people that can be broken. In such a relationship, the owner wouldn't have to consult or get the slave's approval for anything. My personal feeling is that it's a pretty shortsighted owner that at least doesn't at least take into consideration what the slave wants or needs in a situation. quote:
ORIGINAL: passionpromise Note: Written with Master's permission. This girl reads the posts and this girl listens and watches and accepts O/other's views as E/each are individuals. Everyone practises in different ways....HOWEVER....this issue of "real slave" and how it is defined has ruffled feathers and to be certain it is not the first time. Firstly the word slave has been around for 1,000's of years. It is most basic form. It is the owned property of someone else that is bought or sold and yes even stolen and can be done with in the soul purpose of its Owner. Yes put on a pedastal or beaten beyond recognition, yes even snuffed. That is simply fact. And sticking one's head into the sand and pretending otherwise is just plain ridiculous. Redefining the word to make it have a pretty attraction gives false pretense to what it factually is...But if it eases your conscience.... In this lifestyle in order for persons to accept the word slave and the lifestyle in social aspects or vanilla life and in an attempt to make people not fear the lifestyle, persons have simply redefined this word (slave). Something similar to the the word "marriage". "Oh yes of course i am slave, but it is voluntary, or it is a gift, or it is when i feel like it i wanna be." "It is always safe and sane and concentual" Well fact is fact. A slave is a commodity, an object, it has a price. It is not always safe, nor is it sane and as slave most definitely not always consensual. So if people wish to use the term "slave" at least use it in the correct context. Understand the true depths of what such a word means. Since when does a slave turn to a Master/Mistress and dictate?..Since when does a slave have the right to turn around and dismiss themselves from their Owner? Since when does a slave have rights period? A girl has no qualms with a Master "extending" certain rights to what is His/Hers out of the value that that slave has shown and proven. But to simply say that a slave "has" rights ....for the life of her...she can not phathom. Perhaps the difference between fairytale lifestyle and fact. ~
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