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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:01:44 PM

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Those losses have left me with a deep distaste for folks, on either side of the aisle, using the tragedy as a way to score partisan points. Anyone else feel likewise?

I don't think it matters what side of the aisle you're on. They're politicians. They don't truly care about the public who elected them. All the rebublicans seem to care about is making the rich richer, and forcing their will around the globe. The democrats only do what they can to piss off or undermine the republicans, regardless of consequence...much like an insolent child. I lost a couple freinds in those attacks, so I truly don't mean to make light of the situation when I say...let it go. It's in the past. Nothing we do or say will ever change it, or the hearts of the people who planned and executed the attacks. And that especially goes for the politicians who ride on the coat tails of the deaths of my freinds for political gain. Vote libertarian...

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:03:05 PM

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I lost a couple freinds in those attacks

My sympathies.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:09:45 PM

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Ok...no need for me to be...well....like domiguy. Try TheDailyNews since it was written by their staff writers and it appears RIGHT UNDER THE TITLE FOR CHRST SAKES!!!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2163524
But an Army Corps of Engineers official told the newspaper the concept was badly flawed. The Holland Tunnel is not in the Hudson River, but in the bedrock beneath it. And the lowest part of downtown Manhattan is 10 feet above sea level.
The Daily News report says the plotters had appealed to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian terrorist leader in Iraq killed last month.
The paper says Zarqawi promised money and assistance to the plotters, though it is unclear if they ever got it.

Whew....An extremely close call....I hear the next attempt of the terrorists is to crash the moon in to N.Y.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:17:23 PM

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Use just a smidgen of common sense....k? So what you are saying is that even though the tunnel might have been rendered structurally unsafe but not entirely destroyed, that's ok, right? The fact that doing that to the tunnel wouldn't have killed hundreds of motorists and Tunnel Authority employees means nothing, right? The fact that doing that to the tunnel wouldn't have cost scores of millions of dollars just in the impact it would have had to the financial district....that means nothing, right?

You're tired. You should sleep.

Like I said, landmarks were targeted for destruction and the plots were foiled. The plots were foiled because we have had a Hyper-Vigilant President with respect to homeland security (terrible on spending and even worse on restricting the growth of government). It the next President going to be so vigilant? You had damn well better hope so.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:17:28 PM

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We still have both the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels, the Brooklyn Bridge, the Sears Tower and the Library Tower. Terrorist plans were foiled for the destruction of all of those landmarks.

Holland and Lincoln Tunnels

New York Tunnel Plot Is Uncovered in Early Stage

Terrorist Plot to Bomb Holland Tunnel Uncovered

Brooklyn Bridge

‘Terrorists in Our Midst’

Al Qaeda Terrorist Plots in New York City

Suspect in Plot On Bridge Drew Interest Earlier

Sears Tower

Homegrown terrorists’ arraigned in court

Library Tower

Al Qaeda Tried to Outsource L.A. Skyscraper Terror Plot

The Lessons of the Library Tower Plot

Chicago, L.A. towers were next targets

... And thats just a few of the plots foiled.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:26:18 PM

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Good job Firmhand!!! I have a few more:

"Overall, the United States and our partners have disrupted at least 10 serious al-Qaida terrorist plots since September 11 -- including three al-Qaida plots to attack inside the United States. We have stopped at least five more al-Qaida efforts to case targets in the United States or infiltrate operatives into our country."

10 PLOTS

1. The West Coast Airliner Plot: In mid-2002 the U.S. disrupted a plot to attack targets on the West Coast of the United States using hijacked airplanes. The plotters included at least one major operational planner involved in planning the events of 9/11.

2. The East Coast Airliner Plot: In mid-2003 the U.S. and a partner disrupted a plot to attack targets on the East Coast of the United States using hijacked commercial airplanes.

3. The Jose Padilla Plot: In May 2002 the U.S. disrupted a plot that involved blowing up apartment buildings in the United States. One of the plotters, Jose Padilla, also discussed the possibility of using a "dirty bomb" in the U.S.

4. The 2004 U.K. Urban Targets Plot: In mid-2004 the U.S. and partners disrupted a plot that involved urban targets in the United Kingdom. These plots involved using explosives against a variety of sites.

5. The 2003 Karachi Plot: In the Spring of 2003 the U.S. and a partner disrupted a plot to attack Westerners at several targets in Karachi, Pakistan.

6. The Heathrow Airport Plot: In 2003 the U.S. and several partners disrupted a plot to attack Heathrow Airport [outside London] using hijacked commercial airliners. The planning for this attack was undertaken by a major 9/11 operational figure.

7. The 2004 U.K. Plot: In the Spring of 2004 the U.S. and partners, using a combination of law enforcement and intelligence resources, disrupted a plot to conduct large-scale bombings in the U.K.

8. The 2002 Arabian Gulf Shipping Plot: In late 2002 and 2003 the U.S. and a partner nation disrupted a plot by al-Qa'ida operatives to attack ships in the Arabian Gulf.

9. The 2002 Straits of Hormuz Plot: In 2002 the U.S. and partners disrupted a plot to attack ships transiting the Straits of Hormuz.

10. The 2003 Tourist Site Plot: In 2003 the U.S. and a partner nation disrupted a plot to attack a tourist site outside the United States.

FIVE CASINGS AND INFILTRATIONS

1. The U.S. Government & Tourist Sites Tasking: In 2003 and 2004, an individual was tasked by al-Qa'ida to case important U.S. government and tourist targets within the United States.

2. The Gas Station Tasking: In approximately 2003, an individual was tasked to collect targeting information on U.S. gas stations and their support mechanisms on behalf of a senior al-Qa'ida planner.

3. Iyman Faris & the Brooklyn Bridge: In 2003, and in conjunction with a partner nation, the U.S. government arrested and prosecuted Iyman Faris, who was exploring the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge in New York. Faris ultimately pleaded guilty to providing material support to al-Qa'ida and is now in a federal correctional institution.

4. 2001 Tasking: In 2001, al-Qa'ida sent an individual to facilitate post-September 11 attacks in the U.S. U.S. law enforcement authorities arrested the individual.

5. 2003 Tasking: In 2003, an individual was tasked by an al-Qa'ida leader to conduct reconnaissance on populated areas in the U.S.
(end fact sheet)
(Distributed by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)

Hey Domiguy, you want to be liberal? Be liberal, who gives a shit. But AT LEAST give credit to the administration where it is due and appreciate the danger your country and your fellow Americans face. Whaddya think???

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:29:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: GiantCuppaJoe

Those losses have left me with a deep distaste for folks, on either side of the aisle, using the tragedy as a way to score partisan points. Anyone else feel likewise?

Yes. Which is why I support Bush, despite his bumbling incompetence in so many other issues.

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ORIGINAL: GiantCuppaJoe

I lost a couple freinds in those attacks, so I truly don't mean to make light of the situation when I say...let it go. It's in the past. Nothing we do or say will ever change it, or the hearts of the people who planned and executed the attacks.

Also my sympathies.

However, while I don't disagree that nothing will ever change the hearts of the people who planned and executed the attacks, I'm not interested in changing their minds as in ensuring that they don't have the ability to advocate or do anything like it again.

I think a 5.56 mm (or 7.62) round will appropriately prevent that.

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And that especially goes for the politicians who ride on the coat tails of the deaths of my freinds for political gain. Vote libertarian...

Agreed. Except the Liberatarians are ineffective. Philosophical I agree with them in many respects. The reality of their party leads me away from them.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:29:52 PM

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Thanks, Firm!

The hard part about this subject is that one has to largely take on faith what officials tell us.

The last story seemed to rely mostly on Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's confession. Given what the British sailors and marines are saying about coerced confessions, it's hard to know whether to trust the confessions we obtain.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:38:39 PM

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Ok...no need for me to be...well....like domiguy. Try TheDailyNews since it was written by their staff writers and it appears RIGHT UNDER THE TITLE FOR CHRST SAKES!!!!!

. The Holland Tunnel is not in the Hudson River,

I suppose you're going to tell me it's not in Holland?

(Right....and JFK airport isn't where some guy with the initials "JFK" was somehow involved with like the financing of it or was the Mayor or something?)

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:39:04 PM

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The plots were foiled because we have had a Hyper-Vigilant President with respect to homeland security (terrible on spending and even worse on restricting the growth of government). It the next President going to be so vigilant? You had damn well better hope so.

Right he's a real stickler to detail...Like the truth, getting facts straight or understanding anything about Iraq or the war that he's embroiled our country in....He is a moron. Why would I put faith in anyone who has stared into the camera and lied....I thought Clinton was an ass...This guy is beyond comprehension.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:44:25 PM

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<wee hijack>

Firm, how do you get lines to indent the way you did with your links?

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:45:51 PM

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Yeah...the Yale graduate, the former governor, the jet fighter pilot, the football team owner, etc. is a moron. Fine...now YOU post your curriculum vitae. I try to be careful not to call people stupid or morons. Notice, I never called Clinton stupid. Sure, he is a complete and total piece of shit and a sociopath....but he is a smart one. I think you should be a bit more circumspect in calling someone stupid also. All ribbing aside, it really IS good advice.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 9:51:22 PM

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football team owner

Wasn't it a baseball team?

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 10:04:19 PM

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<wee hijack>

Firm, how do you get lines to indent the way you did with your links?

Indenting

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 10:11:11 PM

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Thanks, Firm. I seem to be missing those buttons on my browsers, which is a tad irritating. Oh well.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 10:14:45 PM

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Thanks, Firm. I seem to be missing those buttons on my browsers, which is a tad irritating. Oh well.

What browser are you using?

I use Mozilla, which is basically an earlier version of FireFox, but IE has them too.

They are both in my "Fast Reply" at the bottom of the thread, and in the reply box when I hit the "Quote" button on someone's post.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 10:18:11 PM

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I use Safari and Firefox. Might be one of those Mac things.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 10:19:32 PM

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Yeah...the Yale graduate, the former governor, the jet fighter pilot, the football team owner, etc. is a moron. Fine...now YOU post your curriculum vitae. I try to be careful not to call people stupid or morons. Notice, I never called Clinton stupid. Sure, he is a complete and total piece of shit and a sociopath....but he is a smart one. I think you should be a bit more circumspect in calling someone stupid also. All ribbing aside, it really IS good advice.

Can actually get a lot of information about AnencephalyBoy from a book called "The Bush Dyslexicon."

Sure, it was written by somebody who cannot stand him. On the other hand, all it does is provide a rather long list of reasons why he is a moron despite the points you list.

For example, he got into the national guard of texas during the Vietnam War and jumped ahead of 5,000+ applicants for the fighter program with the numerically lowest scores possible. Might be just a coincidence, but his father was governor of Texas at the time.

Every business he has been responsible for has gone out of business, was bailed out by friends of his father as it floundered, or required him to say he had no knowledge of financial irregularities to Congressional investigation committees investigating the companies financial irregularities. This is especially odd because the positions he held were generally chairman of trustees, chief financial officer, or what have you.

He did graduate from Yale. His grades and school records were sealed by the school. His father is a major contributor to Yale.

He did get money from a friend of his Daddy to buy the Rangers. Then he was able to use eminent domain improperly to build then a new stadium.

He told one interviewer while he was Governer of Texas that he is "just a media creation, he has never actually done anything in his life."

Those are just responses to the points you made. I could list more.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 10:20:22 PM

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never mind. I misread your post.

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RE: Bush's approval rating higher than Congress - 4/9/2007 10:25:16 PM

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I use Safari and Firefox. Might be one of those Mac things.

ahhh, could be. I used an Apple one time. About 20 years ago.

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