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I'd hate to promote the concept that a typical wife is someone who takes care of the house. It's 2007. Why can't the typical husband (or slave) take care of the house?

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ORIGINAL: dominalisa



and I believe that both people should have a job. Even if his is part-time, home-based or charity work. Most households need two incomes and both should pursue something intellectually stimulating. But if the woman would like him to not work in order to do something else to please her or focus on her or something else more, then I can understand that. To each their own. Do whatever works for your Female-led relationship.

By the way, I read a study that said that males doing housework seemed to relax them and helped them de-stress. hooray!

Anyway my main reason for posting is that I wanted to share some useful links with you.
- ClubFEM.com is an organization/support group only for dominant Women and submissive males. There's different chapters in several U.S. states that meet monthly and also in canada and switzerland. It's a good way to meet likeminded people and have fun.
- MatchupMaids.com is my free site for masculine or feminine male maids to offer domestic services to busy Women. (and for busy Women to find a male maid).

Mistress Lisa

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ORIGINAL: ObedientYYC

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

So, by your theory, there should be no societies where the woman was the hunter and the man was the gatherer ... oh, wait, there are a lot of those out there, in history, and today.  Guess that blows your theory. 

I think that most people's temperments are molded by what they are exposed to - so the stereotypes persist because people expect them to.

My, um, "theory" made no reference to nature or nurture.     I also never said that ALL women like to do ALL traditional feminine things.    It seems people just read what they want to read because they apparently WANT to be offended.  Sheesh.

So ... when in Rome...  I will now clarify my position.  All women are biologically programmed to bake cookies, dust furniture, and be Stepford wives.  Thank you.

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

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ORIGINAL: ObedientYYC

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

So, by your theory, there should be no societies where the woman was the hunter and the man was the gatherer ... oh, wait, there are a lot of those out there, in history, and today.  Guess that blows your theory. 

I think that most people's temperments are molded by what they are exposed to - so the stereotypes persist because people expect them to.

My, um, "theory" made no reference to nature or nurture.     I also never said that ALL women like to do ALL traditional feminine things.    It seems people just read what they want to read because they apparently WANT to be offended.  Sheesh.

So ... when in Rome...  I will now clarify my position.  All women are biologically programmed to bake cookies, dust furniture, and be Stepford wives.  Thank you.

Technically, you are correct - you did not flat out say anything about nature vs. nurture.  However, you DID state that you think stereotypes are stereotypes because men and women naturally orient one way or the other ... if that were true, then there would be no societies that go against what the "modern" world considers the norm - there are exceptions in every society, but a society as a whole would not be able to go completely at odds with natural delineations ... thus there cannot be "natural" delineations in either direction.

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

And my point was that it is our western society that produces the orientations, rather than any kind of natural designation or orientation.  Until we can change society - which I don't see happening in my lifetime - the masculine/feminine stereotypes will persist, regardless of what individuals prefer.

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ORIGINAL: dominalisa

A "male wife" to me is simply a service-oriented submissive or slave. One that wants to be useful and please Me. He takes care of the menial tasks instead of expecting me to. So I'm not thrilled with the term "male wife". I'd hate to promote the concept that a typical wife is someone who takes care of the house. It's 2007. Why can't the typical husband (or slave) take care of the house? He would be taking care of his home anyway if I didn't live with him.

and I believe that both people should have a job. Even if his is part-time, home-based or charity work. Most households need two incomes and both should pursue something intellectually stimulating. But if the woman would like him to not work in order to do something else to please her or focus on her or something else more, then I can understand that. To each their own. Do whatever works for your Female-led relationship.

By the way, I read a study that said that males doing housework seemed to relax them and helped them de-stress. hooray!

Anyway my main reason for posting is that I wanted to share some useful links with you.
- ClubFEM.com is an organization/support group only for dominant Women and submissive males. There's different chapters in several U.S. states that meet monthly and also in canada and switzerland. It's a good way to meet likeminded people and have fun.
- MatchupMaids.com is my free site for masculine or feminine male maids to offer domestic services to busy Women. (and for busy Women to find a male maid).

Mistress Lisa