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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

out of respect for MOD XI, who has specifically asked that those engaged in this thread do not discuss things deemed inappropriate by the Benefactors of CM, and therefore violations of TOS, those things have been removed from the above quote and will not be brought up again, or used as examples by this slave again.

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nephandi gave you inaccurate information.  no disrespect or offense to those that do, but we are not followers of the way of Gor.

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regardless of the adjectives added to the word "limit(s)", be they "hard", "relationship", "soft","personal", etc., this slave's point in clarifying the above for you still remains:
ANY limit(s) with regard to the relationship we have or as Master or slave, are detailed, set and enforced by Master, according to HIS taste, preference and desires.  this slave did not and does not limit Him.

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

I suppose the thread was started because I am weary of the doormat concept of slavery and that a slave would have no limits. I feel SimplyMichael has said it very well when he stated he seduced limits, which resonated with me. I feel that easing a new slave into her life is much more viable than expecting him/her to have no limits.

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

~Quicky~

Perhaps we may need to focus a lil more on a few ideas of no limits.

Do you submit to be given away, sold, traded, etc… to another D whom you may have never met?

Do you submit to be bound, caged, or otherwise restrained for days without explanation?

We will start with those two and hope for the most heart felt and honest answers.

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

...although this didn't come across entirely clearly...

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 Perhaps we may need to focus a lil more on a few ideas of no limits...orig: FukinTroll

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Do you submit to be given away, sold, traded, etc… to another D whom you may have never met?

Do you submit to be bound, caged, or otherwise restrained for days without explanation?

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

~Quicky~

Perhaps we may need to focus a lil more on a few ideas of no limits.

Do you submit to be given away, sold, traded, etc… to another D whom you may have never met?

Do you submit to be bound, caged, or otherwise restrained for days without explanation?

We will start with those two and hope for the most heart felt and honest answers.

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

~Quicky~

Perhaps we may need to focus a lil more on a few ideas of no limits.

Do you submit to be given away, sold, traded, etc… to another D whom you may have never met?

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Do you submit to be bound, caged, or otherwise restrained for days without explanation?

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We will start with those two and hope for the most heart felt and honest answers.

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll


Do you submit to be given away, sold, traded, etc… to another D whom you may have never met?

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

this slave doesn't limit Master or the relationship...pretty simple actually, if you have been reading this slave's posts instead of assuming something different after each attempt at clarifying.

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thing is, people get hung up on the "there is no such thing as ________", just because they can't fathom it in the circumstances of their life.  it isn't specific to the "no limits = doormat" way of thinking.  there are those here who will argue there is no such thing as a consensual slave, or a number of other things that have been debated ad nauseum on these boards.

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there are those here that will defend all manner of certainties about another or their relationship(s) simply because they refuse to open their minds to accept another's perspective or way of living.  it happens frequently in the 'nilla world as well.

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ORIGINAL: arayofsunshine55

Since I started this my hard limits are few and unchanged.  No long-term damage - mental, emotional, physical, financial, spiritual, familial.  No interest in those limits changing.  There is more than enough room to play within those very wide parameters.  More than enough things I have never tried which would be new to me.  There's no need for us to push my limits.

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ORIGINAL: Twicehappy2x

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Do you submit to be given away, sold, traded, etc… to another D whom you may have never met?

You know this puts me in mind of days of old and long gone by.

When i first became a bikers old lady it was common practice to buy-sell-trade your old lady, we were and understood we were property, period.

Often the women were consulted but just as often they were not to see if they agreed to the new prospective old man.

The father of my oldest two replicants acquired me by purchasing me from my then old man. I was consulted, i was even offered a chance to try him out to see if i agreed. I cannot quote the price because it involved illegal substances, but it was a nice one. None of this upset me in the least, i knew it was how it was, that's all.

I did ask to try him out. Which surprisingly enough was my first taste of S&M. Lmao....i said, yes, oh my yes and hell yeah and never looked back.

So i can honestly say this one is not a hard limit for me. I was simply raised in both the BDSM and biker lifestyles to accept this was part of it.


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Thinking about this i figured i should add a few comments here.

For bikers back then this was a good way to keep the pool of available trained or semi trained old ladies viable. It offered the opportunity to both the men and women to switch around partners while remaining in the "family" group without hard feelings until the parties involved were with the one/ones that they fell in love with.

At that point a personal "Property of" tattoo was usually given, at which point the old lady was for the most part inviolate from that point forward.

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

How many of you adhere to your hard limits?
Now i stick solidly to my hard limits because they are created on the basis of greater experience and understanding. In the past i put anything that frightened me as a hard limit because i didn't have the confidence in myself and my partners, didn't understand what play of that kind would involve and was generally being verrrrrrrry cautious.
How many have been pushed into a hard limit and were glad they did?
yes, on more than one limit, but it was always things whch i had set as a hard limit because of my own misconceptions or misunderstandings, being eased through that self imposed  barrier with someone i trusted and who had a far greater understanding of it that me, surrounded with lots of communication and encouragement ...helped me grow and i will be greatful to Him for the rest of my days.
How many have been pushed into a hard limit and suffered because of it?
yes, once, i had set intentional branding and scarring of any kind as a hard limit i had stated ths quite clearly at several points, there was no question of a miscommuncation between Dom and me. Several times when i was in bondage he would threaten me with it, most usually (he was a smoker) by saying he would use me as an ashtray and stub the butts out on me. i never safeworded out of those scenes because i knew they would be just threats (we had afterall agreed scarring or branding of this kind as a hard limit). Once however he followed through wth the threat, and stubbed out several fag buts on me, he didn't listen to the safe word when it was said, shouted, screamed, snarled or begged. He claimed afterwards in his defence he assumed i had changed my mind about it as a limit because i never stopped him when he threatened it. i might have believed him had he listening to my safeword.

I would say in this instance it was not the breaking of the limit that did the damage in was the man and the manner in which it was done. I was violated by him, nstead of being evolved by him.

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie


Keep in mind, you are asking these questions to girls who have gone through extremes for their Masters.  Some of us will actually clean our Master with our mouths after he makes a bowel movement.  Some of us have actually been given to a complete stranger for amusement before.  So it would seem that whatever hypothetical you want to suggest is going to be met with the same answers.  Do a search on "Limits" threads.  You will find all sorts of hypotheticals from the mild to the ridiculous and everything in between.  And the answers that are given are consistent.    Some of us really mean it when we say we do what is expected of us, and we do so willingly.  Some of us really do mean it when we say we do not limit our Masters in our relationships.  And despite however many threads there will be on this topic, and however many hypotheticals will be bandied about, there are those who won't ever believe our answers.

And so it goes...

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

pretty much, lol. sometimes it almost seems pointless, these discussions, because you know certain people will never believe any differently, are certain of their rightness beyond question, and will continue to believe those like you and i are delusional looney tunes. but i think we'd be doing a disservice to the community, and especially to those soul-searching newbies who may seek out this type of life, if we didn't make sure to get the message across that this too, can be a reality.