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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

What i get from reading this thread is that there are some people out there that want moral justification for the immoral things they do.  You can't have it.  If you cheat one someone and they find out, they will probably hate you!  And they will hate you for good reason.  You have to be big enough to accept that hate and expect nothing other than their hate if you are going to engage in that course of conduct. 

My advice...for what it's worth...if you want to take another lover, tell your spouse, tell your spouse to do the same and then go enjoy your lover.  You will think better of yourself that way.

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO


SirDiscipliner69: Is it really, seriously your hope to get every single person to agree here? Would that be realisitic?


Not at al..never was
 
As it goes



I think people should be polite to eachother, when folks comment. I am just wondering why people cannot all have their own opinions, here, which is not what you seem to think, Sir D.

I do think people have the right to opinions just as I have the right not to agree with their perceptions...one goes with the other...
 
 
 


Guess I am wondering really, what your goal is, and just felt compelled out of curiosity, to ask.
 
you have read enough of My writings to know y know it is communication and discussion without fear of retribution and flaming..yet if you falme make sure you are wearing a singe proof fire retardant suit


Especially when you state your open-mindnedness as a thread-host, w/such liberal, 'come-one-come-all', attitude-adjusting thoughts such as: "Those who don't agree with me, will simply have to move  on." 
 
Well if they are here for discussion of the topic or mudslinging yes...I have even opened up other postings and ventured others to sling away in other postings but mz mod stops them as we all need to get along and it makes too much work for her.
 
I am simply trying to abide to the rules as they change


I obviously need more sleep, I am usually not crabby. Back to bed for me...


Why do *you* keep coming back time after time when you have washed your hands of the topic I wonder?
 
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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

No such thing as a true dom or subbie...but good luck in your serach

Ross
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    Ummm did you read what I wrote or miss it when I said my relationship was pretty close to perfect.   Ohhhh maybe you meant I should search and seek someone to sneak around with and see how long it would take for me to get away with it.

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ORIGINAL: redsky

okay, im puzzled....

i thought to be a good Dom/sub that there had to be 'emotions' -


I have covered that in previous writings in other posts...and I am sure with a little bit of searching you could find it...
 
Maybe some of Us want to be bad examples and carry the RACK banner high...


if someone is afraid to become emotionally attatched then how can the D's relationship work?


The desire to personify emotions within domination is a natural human emotion to make things nice and fuzzy...however it is not needed for any given legth or predetermined endurance but is often sought out by those that feel the need to personalize their sessions rather than take aboot camp pro dom approach to it.
 
 

i have always thought that the lifestyle were too deep both mentally & physically for one not to become emotional in any way.


It is the mental realm that is important. All My writings have conveyed it. It is a core value.


sometimes being blonde (& still fairly new to this)sucks!!

Are you a true blonde?

Being new to it gives you an advantage as you are not as jaded as some of Us.
 
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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

Fast reply in response to no one in paticular---but this thread makes me wonder---does extreeme loneliness and no sex cause some sort of brain damage?

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ORIGINAL: Hrafnkel

At first I thought that you were joking with this, and that you were using humor to agree with me. But my girl insists she's certain you're actually serious. So, alright.

First, I'm not so certain 'logic' is a word you want to use. There are no rhetorical arguements in the opinion I stated except for a very straightforward arguement by definition. If you freely take a vow, youre basically committing to keeping it on your word and honor. If you choose otherwise without seeking release from the commitment, or  evade via deception, then you're being morally weak. Its not really my definition, unless you believe I force people to get married.

Vows are sacred and should be honored.
 
People are human.
 
Show Me the last drama you watched on DVD or movies that was just like the little house on the prarie.
 
Mind you I too have fallen to the corruption of values admittedly
 



These aren't really my definitions, though., I think part of the problem is a confusion in what I mean by the phrase 'self respect'. It's not the same as self interest, which is really I think what the politicans and spouses you seem to be defending are acting out of.

Not really defending but being more matter of factly
 
Guess when it is time to be accounted for My sins I would rather be known as a lusty hedonst than someone that stole and defrauded the people ...
 
People still have to take responsibilities for why situations degrade at home..
 
Communication is usually one...lack of it
 
So guess the concept of includingthe trust issue is negating that of  sane, consent eh?
 


I also find it curious that you interpret my statements to apply to women who cheat and not men.

Perhaps that is your perception as it was not My intention at all to convey women as the only sluts...
 
 
Yes there are alot of horndoggs out there of both sexes...and in between too...


I do have a tendency to refer to submissives in the feminine, and I should, I confess be more careful with that, as it generally alludes to personal experience and not a deeper view.

As all My subbies have been females there by excluding a greater statisitcal advantage of Saturday night dates and guess I am not really Dominant as I have pointed out in previous writings as if I were a TRUE dominant I would be dominating women AND men...o well...such is the luck
 
However I have been pondering subbie couples but with no real potentials yet as most disappear after intro...which is just fine as I do not intend to invest time with the unfocused
 

But in no place do I say 'what is morally right for a woman'. I say whats morally right for people who take on a moral obligation. That is simply keeping it.

Good point..hope you are continually sucessful at it


But your final premise was simply golden. Just for comedic shock value I think it's brilliant. That cheating spouses should feel good about themselves because politicians lie, too.

Actually I believe you interjected another writers posts into My perception....

Kudos for coming up with a proposition thats simply too preposterous to easily be confronted on any rational level.

Sorry I can not take credit for that one...I will simply let you get the credit....
 

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I don't actually think it's realistic for Sir Discipliner69, to have even introduced it as a topic, or to expect anything but a 'war-torn' out-come. I've been around this block, before.

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

How many others prefer the submissive female to be married?

Would you agree there is a deliciousness to a woman that is not getting what she needs at home?

I have found the eagarness and willingness to serve and please Me is well rewarded and makes training very enjoyable for Both.


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What a topic on this "bad luck" Friday ! 

I do know personally 2 married submissives who if they were single would not make willing and obedient delicious subs. 

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ORIGINAL: hammernhoney

YES delicous,a willing submissive without the 24-7 troubles,,,hnh

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ORIGINAL: proudsub

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

How many others prefer the submissive female to be married?

Would you agree there is a deliciousness to a woman that is not getting what she needs at home?

I have found the eagarness and willingness to serve and please Me is well rewarded and makes training very enjoyable for Both.


Ross
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When i was doing that i found it very stressful, so glad those days are over.

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

or nothing like the laziness of a Dominant who doesn't have to deal with actually interacting with the submissive.  They can just send them home.

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ORIGINAL: akisha

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

How many others prefer the submissive female to be married?

Would you agree there is a deliciousness to a woman that is not getting what she needs at home?

I have found the eagarness and willingness to serve and please Me is well rewarded and makes training very enjoyable for Both.


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So you're encouraging people that cheat? 

Why yes of course..just ignore what I have written previously and lets go with this statement...obviously I am not aware of My disappearing posts...


Doesn't say much about the submissives character or yours for that matter really.


Why I let others say it for Me in the psots...people who don't read beyond the words...


Personally i think if someone is not happy in the relationship they are in then they should end it and find what they need in life.

Good point but most won't as it is a matter of convience... I bet half of the readers do not have the same intensity in dinner discussion as they did when they were dating....


Cheating just hurts everyone involved,

you are very correct...
 
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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Oh...since we are on the topic of rejecting moral absolutes...like cheating...i guess if any of you folks have children, they are fair game for us to have sexually, right?  C'mon...cheating isn't wrong.  That is what you are saying.  Why would any us having sex with your elementary school aged child be wrong???  Oh...is it because it is YOUR ox that is then being gored?  Your answer is that the child doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct.  The spouse that is being cheated on doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct either because of the cheating spouse's duplicity.  I kind of like living in a world were there are things that are conisdered to be universally wrong.  You folks are arguing for a very dangerous world where the strongest, most violent and most cunning reign supreme and no one can be judged for their actions.

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Oh...since we are on the topic of rejecting moral absolutes...like cheating...i guess if any of you folks have children, they are fair game for us to have sexually, right?  C'mon...cheating isn't wrong.  That is what you are saying.  Why would any us having sex with your elementary school aged child be wrong???  Oh...is it because it is YOUR ox that is then being gored?  Your answer is that the child doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct.  The spouse that is being cheated on doesn't have the ability to consent to the conduct either because of the cheating spouse's duplicity.  I kind of like living in a world were there are things that are conisdered to be universally wrong.  You folks are arguing for a very dangerous world where the strongest, most violent and most cunning reign supreme and no one can be judged for their actions.