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lapresence -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:47:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

If the person is going to cheat on their husband, what is going to stop them from cheating on me?

Sinergy


Glad someone brought this one up.  I've been waiting for it.  It's simple, it's clean, and the argument follows.  And it's why I personally insist on an open relationship.  Can't cheat if it isn't against the rules.  [:)] 




lapresence -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:51:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

you are correct

I am a bad person

Thank yo for pointing this out

I am sure the world is a much better place now.



Actually, he was referring to me.  Although I am sure you're kinda included because you started the thread and indicated you enjoyed using married submissive women, Sir.  We can be bad together....  [;)]   

Just kidding, of course.  I'm very committed to serving only my Dom and whoever he brings to play with.   




viperess -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:59:11 PM)

Greetings,
If i offend anyone i am sorry as i know better than to post when running a fever and feeling like i have been beaten but not in a good way. i have to admit i have laughed through parts of this thread and shook my head at other times. The way i read it SirDiscipliner69 was saying one of the things He enjoyed...well thats cool i myself enjoy floggings, singletail, cats, knives, spankings...and the list goes on. Some may say i am so wrong to find pleasure when Master gives me pain but there you have it..i am a blooming nympho pain slut and hope to be until the day i die but that is part of the kink that is me. Others get off giving pain...does that make them wrong? Okay so He enjoys married ladies well guess what there are many married ladies and men out here that do not stand by the commentments that they have made to another and yea to me that is wrong of them only because of how i have been taught. others have been taught differently.As i have heard many times one mand kink is another mans tabo ...that does not make one wrong just different from me. i just so love when everyone stands in judgement of others for what they like and dislike...hell i was told just today i am wrong because i am poly and that means i have a problem in committing to one person..well that is their thought and mine is i have enough love and caring to let more than one close to me...different strokes for different folks. Okay rant is over you may now go back to the flaming in progress.




lapresence -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 3:11:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: viperess

hell i was told just today i am wrong because i am poly and that means i have a problem in committing to one person..well that is their thought and mine is i have enough love and caring to let more than one close to me...different strokes for different folks. Okay rant is over you may now go back to the flaming in progress.



First, I want to say, I hope you feel better quickly. 

Hehe, others may think it's wrong, but it feels so right.  [;)]  I totally know where you are at, and as long as you're happy, it's all gravy in my book.   

I hope I haven't come off as flaming.  It isn't my intention to attack a person.  Just attending to a lively argument.  A mental game, and I am curious as to why people think the way they do.  People get way more emotional than I about all sorts of things.   This topic included.  Maybe I should say, especially. 




captainblack -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 12:09:11 AM)

Well I have to say I have very much enjoyed sending home a married female to her husband after some good use. I used to
think I would never do a married woman, then a friend begged me to do his wife. She was way hot, but I declined.
A couple weeks latter he asks if I will be home friday night. I said yep come on by if you want.......Friday night door rings
and I expect to see both of them, but get only her. While I am chatting with her I turn my back for a moment to grab something and next thing
I know she is naked laying on my sofa begging to get fucked. What could I do? Her husband begged me to do her and she
was begging for it. That started a nice long situation where he would drop her off on Friday night and meet us for breakfast saturday morning at the local diner, with her very damp from our wake up activities. Turns out that he was a sub and she a switch, so it worked out well for all.

Since then I have had a couple of other submissive females that were married. In every case I discovered they were married
to submissive men. Well seems to me we all got what we wanted. In each of those cases they both became happier campers
pretty fast. The female would spend a day, night or weekend pleasing me, then go home to her sub-hub and deal with him per my instructions. There is something very special about knowing that you have used either for sex or some other service
the female of a submissive male, and that when she gets home to him he will be begging for any attention when he smells
the results of my use of her when he greets her on getting home.

So to answer the question that started the thread, yes there is something extra about a married submissive female.

For those that want to toss a rant about morality forget about it. No one is asking you to do it, and as others have said you do not
know the situations involved. To them I say would you forget about sex for the rest of your life if your spouse had an illness or
injury that meant they could no longer have sex, or would you instead divorce the one you love because the parts did not work
down below? No black and white on this subject!

CB




Twicehappy2x -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 5:32:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: captainblack


So to answer the question that started the thread, yes there is something extra about a married submissive female.

To them I say would you forget about sex for the rest of your life if your spouse had an illness or
injury that meant they could no longer have sex, or would you instead divorce the one you love because the parts did not work down below? No black and white on this subject!


As you stated that the husbands were aware of the activity i doubt you will get any rants, aware being the key word. There was no lying, no possibility of injury to an innocent partner.
 
To answer your second question, during a almost three year stretch when my previous Master could not function i never looked elsewhere. And if i had asked to he would have arranged for it anyway. After his passing it took four years for me to even think about getting laid. To be honest in a little over six years i did it four times until i found Scooter and Jewel.
 
So the answer is yes, i would do without rather than cause that kind of heartbreak to someone i not only gave my vow to but professed to love.
 
Still black and white to me.




barefootprincess -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/15/2007 5:45:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: redsky

i am married & i do not find pleasure in 'sneaking around' but life is what it is & ya only live once! i am who i am & even though i have tried not to have the feelings of submission whether i like it or not.....They are there!


  i love this post, im married and my husband knows im  in the *scene* but when i go out, he just looks at ,me and asked "are you coming home tonight?" So cute.
Who really wants to submit? Its more like a need.
But life is what you make it.
barefoot




crouchingtigress -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/15/2007 6:21:00 AM)

how can you own a married woman...?

ring ring:

come to me now slave....oh maaaaaster i would but my husband is needing some dinner...

ring ring:

put clothes pins on your nipples....oh maaaaassster of course i would but hubbys boss is coming for drinks and i need to serve them

ring ring:

what are you wearing slave....oh maaaaaster i am cleaning the bathrroms in the house...sweats and a tee

ring ring:

i own you slave, serve me now, ...............oh maaaaaaaaaster sure ill stop by to give you a bj on my way to the mall.....our microwave just  broke....and sears is having a sale.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 7:05:50 AM)

no matter how it looks consensual or not - cheating is still cheating to even if the husbands are fully aware of their wives' activities.  the marriage vows are null and void once the woman agrees to meet and have sex with her Dom. 




darkinshadows -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 7:21:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

no matter how it looks consensual or not - cheating is still cheating to even if the husbands are fully aware of their wives' activities.  the marriage vows are null and void once the woman agrees to meet and have sex with her Dom. 
 
Ouch. Surely it depends on the vows taken?  Marriage vows come in all shapes and sizes.
So if someone is with someone else - even with their partners blessing that's cheating?
I guess poly relationships are fucked then.
 
Peace and Rapture




darkinshadows -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/15/2007 7:23:33 AM)

I guess it depends on a persons view of 'ownership'.  If it is for play purposes only and the whole kitandkaboodle is agreed upon, then it's pretty easy I would surmise.  Not all ownership or tpe is 24/7.
 
Peace and Rapture




viperess -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/15/2007 7:25:34 AM)

Greetings lapresence,
Thank you i am trying to get over this junk but so far it is bed for me :)

i was not aiming my post at any one person it is just so many people love to say how open and free they are, how they hate the vanillia judging them for their lifestyle choices but then they turn right around are become the judge and jury.
respectfully,




Twicehappy2x -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 7:30:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

no matter how it looks consensual or not - cheating is still cheating to even if the husbands are fully aware of their wives' activities.  the marriage vows are null and void once the woman agrees to meet and have sex with her Dom.


I have to disagree there. My entire objection to this is the dishonesty, the potential for injuring another person. If all are aware and agree then no harm no foul in my book.
 
Under your definition all of the poly persuasion who involve one or more married couples are cheating. Under this type of belief system the three of us are all cheating and we are not. We love each other openly, no one is hurt, we are happy and in love, each with the other.
 
I guess if you are Christian or a member of another religious sect that enforces monogamy you would view it that way. I am a druid, born and raised whose family pantheon is basically Asatru, i was raised in a poly household so this does not even enter into the way i look at it.
 
Our form of marriage can involve any mix of human beings you can imagine providing they all love each other, provide and care for children (by birth, adoption or the gifting of a child, basically becoming what you would call a godparent) to insure continuity of the group as a whole and  care for one another as family.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 7:58:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

no matter how it looks consensual or not - cheating is still cheating to even if the husbands are fully aware of their wives' activities.  the marriage vows are null and void once the woman agrees to meet and have sex with her Dom. 
 
Ouch. Surely it depends on the vows taken?  Marriage vows come in all shapes and sizes.
So if someone is with someone else - even with their partners blessing that's cheating?
I guess poly relationships are fucked then.
 
Peace and Rapture


um didn't i just say whether it's consensual or not - cheating is still cheating?  man or woman - doesn't matter if both parties agree to seek others ...in my book, that's cheating and the vows of marriage are null and void. might as well and should not have gotten married if you're going to have sex with others then. i'm a firm believer of monogamy and committment with one person only.




phoenixinchains -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 8:02:04 AM)

ssc.  a mate, no mater how vanillia, is still part of the equation, imho. if a spouse can't communicate their needs and find a means of exceptable outlets, then both spouses should really examine their relationship. really, there are options, like open marriages. dishonesty is disservice.        Phoenix




darkinshadows -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 8:07:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

no matter how it looks consensual or not - cheating is still cheating to even if the husbands are fully aware of their wives' activities.  the marriage vows are null and void once the woman agrees to meet and have sex with her Dom. 
 
Ouch. Surely it depends on the vows taken?  Marriage vows come in all shapes and sizes.
So if someone is with someone else - even with their partners blessing that's cheating?
I guess poly relationships are fucked then.
 
Peace and Rapture


um didn't i just say whether it's consensual or not - cheating is still cheating?  man or woman - doesn't matter if both parties agree to seek others ...in my book, that's cheating and the vows of marriage are null and void. might as well and should not have gotten married if you're going to have sex with others then. i'm a firm believer of monogamy and committment with one person only.


Then you may want to find a more appropriate word or read a dictionary.
Cheating is - by definition - fraud.  A lie.
If the vows you took, and the partner you are with, allowed for poly - then that is not cheating. Period.  I am monogamous - what has that got to do with the price of eggs?
So IYO - there are a large majority of posters here, in long term poly relationships - and they are all cheaters?
.yikes.




MiladyAngelique -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 8:18:50 AM)

If people wish to cheat that is their choice, and while I do disagree with it, it is their conciense they need to live with.

The original question was how many others perfer the submissive to be married (or I am assuming any significgant relationship)

I personally have a requirement that they be single, and this is because I like knowing they belong to Me and only Me, I am not sharing them with a wife or a SO. Yes I have been the "other woman" in the past. Not by my choice. I have also been the one left behind ... again Not by my choice. I would never inflict that level of pain on anyone again.






angielouwhos -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 9:02:32 AM)

I can totally see how a dominant would love to have a submissive that is married. We have an open situation and are both slaves, so I have been personally told several times that just the fact that I am married is additive to the experience.

Isn't it interesting that the world's great faiths are very focused on the definition of marriage and how to conduct yourselves with in it? Just look at the emotion and opinions that the subject draws here, and this is at a place where most of us do things that would make at least seventy-five percent of the population blush or run away from as fast as they can. :)

I can also totally understand the opinions around cheating and the moral question there, however the condition and arraingement of peoples relationships has as many many variables as there are marriages, to criticize someone that does not follow my viewpoint of what they should be is not something I'd care to do. I do know there are a lot of married men and women that explore without their spouses and even from my standpoint, I can understand why.

So, yes I can see why its delicious to some dominants.




sophia37 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 9:34:04 AM)

To My Master Steven:

I'd like to respond to your posting., as I am a women involved in an affair. So please allow me to tackle your points,

"If someone isn't getting what they need in a relationship, then they should leave that relationship and find another one that DOES satisfy them".
I agree. In many ways I have had to leave my relationship with my husband. Together but seperate. We reside under the same roof.

" If they are locked into their current relationship financially or with children, then they are in a tough position". I would agree with you.

" Unfortunately we cannot all have everything that we want, and sometimes sacrifices have to be made."
Exactly. And one of the sacrifices I made, was to understand I could never change the current situaion. My conclusion was not though, that I need to stand up, annoucne I will have a boyfrined as well, or that I will dump my husband to be at the mercy of well, himself. Its not heartless to understand a person limitations, and work within that boundry. An affair can also come from a true place of love and understanding.

"If they cannot talk to their Significant Other, then they are in a very unhappy situation". Um, yup.

"Commitment, and the guts and tenacity to abide by one's commitments, are disappearing qualities". Which is why I stay in the marriage. I am committed to it on certain levels. And so I must abide by my resposnibilty or committment, in the best way i see possible. What is right to me, may seen wrong to you, vise versa. Its just one of those interesting truths.

Thanks for the thoughts. Sophie  




sophia37 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/15/2007 9:36:59 AM)


In response to amusingtoyou's post that said, "Some people prefer being with married people because they don't ever have to emotionaly connect." The operative word there is SOME. My affair is an affair of the heart and resides under some sort of different catagory than your idea. Thanks for the imput.  




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