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SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:58:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myobedience quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness to a woman that is not getting what she needs at home? I have found the eagarness and willingness to serve and please Me is well rewarded and makes training very enjoyable for Both. Ross ©º°¨¨°º© What a topic on this "bad luck" Friday ! [sm=whoa.gif] I had to laugh when I came upon it ! For all those who post to cheating wives and husbands and dissing them into the ground...this is a "hot" topic to be responding to I see. I do know personally 2 married submissives who if they were single would not make willing and obedient delicious subs. [:D] Actually 13 is My lucky number I love Friday the 13th[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º©

myobedience -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 11:59:35 AM)
OMG !! This is total self righteous judging nonsense !! quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway For the people who stay because of the finances, here is another point of view and it applies equally for men and women. Whores screw for money but they don't stay with who they are screwing. Cheaters screw for free but they stay for money. Aren't they both whores then irrespective of the gender? And lies like "oh honey, there is nothing between your best friend and me" aren't kind, they are savage. How might you judge this scenerio ??? Navy man and wife seperate. He has cheated before and since their marriage. Upon seperation, she found herself one really nice man after several lovers. One son. They do NOT get divorced so the son and wife have health care benifits from the Navy dad (deadbeat... I can say it cause he is my ex bro in law). Navy man has how many children?? Lives with countless women and cheats on them. One in every port syndrome. Navy wife wants to marry said good man; son is not needing health care benefits anymore but navy man will NOT give divorce. 2 weeks later he gives divorce cause he has asked his live in "whore" (according to you) to marry him. What judge ye of this ultimate whoring about senario?

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 12:04:31 PM)
Why not just agree that it happens what is My kink is not necessarily your kink...and what is one person's ceiling is another's floor...I have enjoyed vanilla to edge and will continue to... No need to be over zealous in the morality clause

TigressFL -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 12:56:46 PM)
I have had a couple of girls under me that where married, however, it only happened because I was able to talk to their husband about it first and whenever I wanted! Tigress~FL

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 1:31:55 PM)
All My writings, posts, comments are commentary or opinion or parody of opinion and are for purely entertainment only. Ross

Hrafnkel -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 1:52:34 PM)
Wow, this is lively. And yes. I see this in black and white terms. Because the question wasn't posited of one who yields to temptation in a troubled relationship. It was posited as in getting off on sneaking around and infidelity. And I find it really troublesome when one posts firm views and then equivocates into a "Erm, well, I... erm... black and white... sweeping generalisations... this is different..." Posture. You stand by your views under pressure or you don't. Saying that the other person doesn't understand is most often a case for not wanting to be pinned down to their own statements. If someone goes into a lifestyle that is all about insight and honesty and where people's emotional and physical well being is based on how honest, open, and responsible their partner is going to be, frankly I feel there's no room for the "It's fun to cheat" attitude. I feel it's juvenile, egocentric, and indicative of the sort of irresponsibility that someone will be citing for driving them out of this lifestyle on these very boards before the day is out. So, no, I don't find it cute, and I have no sympathy for people who don't want to stick by their guns for suggeting that it's more fun to screw around. And incidently, for the record, I am not making sweeping generalisations. I've been 'the other guy'. Not once. Not twice. And I can tell you how fun it is for all parties concerned in the long run, cause I've caused my share of damage. I've been the kind of bastard I'm talking about.

minnetar -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 1:53:23 PM)
Sir Ross, This girl is confused. It seems that if noone agrees with Your values then that person is wrong. This girl values honor and trust. To do an act behind another's back is not being truthful or honorable. Not everyone has those same values but to each their own. minnetar

lockedaway -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 1:53:26 PM)
I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with you on your point of view argument. If you cheat, you betray. If you feel that betrayal and hiding something from your spouse is alright then it speaks volumes about your character. It couldn't be more simple than that. You want to be with someone else....leave the relationship or open the relationship. Your arguments for being deceiptful simply make evident the that risks someone runs in being with you.

minnetar -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 1:54:38 PM)
Sir Ross, also confused as to why some of Your posts are awaiting approval minnetar

myobedience -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:00:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 Why not just agree that it happens what is My kink is not necessarily your kink...and what is one person's ceiling is another's floor...I have enjoyed vanilla to edge and will continue to... No need to be over zealous in the morality clause [sm=lol.gif] Lockedaway has the morality police on this as do many others. We do as we have to do because we have to do it. Simple. And if we are judged for it, it is the values of the one judging being imposed upon the one being judged...simple.

Mercnbeth -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:13:38 PM)
quote: They do NOT get divorced so the son and wife have health care benifits from the Navy dad (deadbeat... I can say it cause he is my ex bro in law). What judge ye of this ultimate whoring about senario? What is to judge? She set a price of her "whoring". In this case obviously her self assigned value was equal to the cost of health coverage. If it doesn't matter, then it shouldn't matter to say so to the person who, at one time in your life, you pledged fidelity. Speaking to that person and disclosing desires is too much to ask? It is not the physical aspect that takes away integrity, it's the set up and rationalization required to get there that precludes assigning any value to the end result. But regardless of the value, there is really only one decision. How much do you value your own integrity?

viperess -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 2:19:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: minnetar Sir Ross, also confused as to why some of Your posts are awaiting approval minnetar Greetings minnetar, While i can not answer for anyone but myself...when you see posts awaiting approval many times it means they have in the eyes of the moderators been a baddddd boy/gilr (depending on who it is) and so their words are censored before they can speak. Be it right/wrong/or indifferent that is just how it is which can be a bit of a pain as i always enjoy hearing what He has to say and so i have to keep going back over and over until they finally let Him speak. respectfully,

lapresence -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:22:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with you on your point of view argument. If you cheat, you betray. If you feel that betrayal and hiding something from your spouse is alright then it speaks volumes about your character. It couldn't be more simple than that. You want to be with someone else....leave the relationship or open the relationship. Your arguments for being deceiptful simply make evident the that risks someone runs in being with you. Umm... I think you misunderstand. I would prefer people be honest. Truly. But there are times and places, people and situations. And I think you didn't catch a couple of things in my previous posts. 1) I am not married. I don't expect to ever get married. (So don't worry on that account). 2) I won't be in an un-open relationship with my primary, let alone anyone else. That's as much for them as for as it is for me. I think it is strange that you don't address the fairness issues I brought up. Is there are reason for that? Or do you think that one should just be dutiful, and if your partner is vanilla, then just live with the loss of that part of yourself? Anyway, I understand you're tired of this. So unless you reply further, no worries. I think I made my points. I know what you think of me. But I know the situation I am in, and by my own moral compass, I am doing nothing wrong. Which works for me and would never work for you. Take care. [:)]

Hrafnkel -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 2:23:55 PM)
To SirDiscipliner69 You said: "Actually I believe you interjected another writers posts into My perception.... " My response: Actually, I believe YOU interjected yourself into an exchange that was not directed at you. If you look at the post that you just cited in it's entirety you'll see that it was in reply to a different user. In short, I wasn't talking to you or your points. But I am going to be backing out of this, now. For the record, however, I agree wholeheartedly with Lockedaway, and would like to thank that person for stating points I wasn't articulate or level headed enough to. Hrafnkel Reposted for reference: ---------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL: Hrafnkel At first I thought that you were joking with this, and that you were using humor to agree with me. But my girl insists she's certain you're actually serious. So, alright. First, I'm not so certain 'logic' is a word you want to use. There are no rhetorical arguements in the opinion I stated except for a very straightforward arguement by definition. If you freely take a vow, youre basically committing to keeping it on your word and honor. If you choose otherwise without seeking release from the commitment, or evade via deception, then you're being morally weak. Its not really my definition, unless you believe I force people to get married. Vows are sacred and should be honored. People are human. Show Me the last drama you watched on DVD or movies that was just like the little house on the prarie. Mind you I too have fallen to the corruption of values admittedly[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] These aren't really my definitions, though., I think part of the problem is a confusion in what I mean by the phrase 'self respect'. It's not the same as self interest, which is really I think what the politicans and spouses you seem to be defending are acting out of. Not really defending but being more matter of factly Guess when it is time to be accounted for My sins I would rather be known as a lusty hedonst than someone that stole and defrauded the people ... People still have to take responsibilities for why situations degrade at home.. Communication is usually one...lack of it So guess the concept of includingthe trust issue is negating that of sane, consent eh?[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] I also find it curious that you interpret my statements to apply to women who cheat and not men. Perhaps that is your perception as it was not My intention at all to convey women as the only sluts...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Yes there are alot of horndoggs out there of both sexes...and in between too...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] I do have a tendency to refer to submissives in the feminine, and I should, I confess be more careful with that, as it generally alludes to personal experience and not a deeper view. As all My subbies have been females there by excluding a greater statisitcal advantage of Saturday night dates and guess I am not really Dominant as I have pointed out in previous writings as if I were a TRUE dominant I would be dominating women AND men...o well...such is the luck [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] However I have been pondering subbie couples but with no real potentials yet as most disappear after intro...which is just fine as I do not intend to invest time with the unfocused [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] But in no place do I say 'what is morally right for a woman'. I say whats morally right for people who take on a moral obligation. That is simply keeping it. Good point..hope you are continually sucessful at it But your final premise was simply golden. Just for comedic shock value I think it's brilliant. That cheating spouses should feel good about themselves because politicians lie, too. Actually I believe you interjected another writers posts into My perception.... Kudos for coming up with a proposition thats simply too preposterous to easily be confronted on any rational level. Sorry I can not take credit for that one...I will simply let you get the credit....[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º© ---------------------------------------------

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 2:36:28 PM)
what ever works for you I need to find mor positive subjects and places Thanks quote: ORIGINAL: Hrafnkel To SirDiscipliner69 You said: "Actually I believe you interjected another writers posts into My perception.... " My response: Actually, I believe YOU interjected yourself into an exchange that was not directed at you. If you look at the post that you just cited in it's entirety you'll see that it was in reply to a different user. In short, I wasn't talking to you or your points. But I am going to be backing out of this, now. For the record, however, I agree wholeheartedly with Lockedaway, and would like to thank that person for stating points I wasn't articulate or level headed enough to. Hrafnkel Reposted for reference: ---------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL: Hrafnkel At first I thought that you were joking with this, and that you were using humor to agree with me. But my girl insists she's certain you're actually serious. So, alright. First, I'm not so certain 'logic' is a word you want to use. There are no rhetorical arguements in the opinion I stated except for a very straightforward arguement by definition. If you freely take a vow, youre basically committing to keeping it on your word and honor. If you choose otherwise without seeking release from the commitment, or evade via deception, then you're being morally weak. Its not really my definition, unless you believe I force people to get married. Vows are sacred and should be honored. People are human. Show Me the last drama you watched on DVD or movies that was just like the little house on the prarie. Mind you I too have fallen to the corruption of values admittedly[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] These aren't really my definitions, though., I think part of the problem is a confusion in what I mean by the phrase 'self respect'. It's not the same as self interest, which is really I think what the politicans and spouses you seem to be defending are acting out of. Not really defending but being more matter of factly Guess when it is time to be accounted for My sins I would rather be known as a lusty hedonst than someone that stole and defrauded the people ... People still have to take responsibilities for why situations degrade at home.. Communication is usually one...lack of it So guess the concept of includingthe trust issue is negating that of sane, consent eh?[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] I also find it curious that you interpret my statements to apply to women who cheat and not men. Perhaps that is your perception as it was not My intention at all to convey women as the only sluts...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Yes there are alot of horndoggs out there of both sexes...and in between too...[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] I do have a tendency to refer to submissives in the feminine, and I should, I confess be more careful with that, as it generally alludes to personal experience and not a deeper view. As all My subbies have been females there by excluding a greater statisitcal advantage of Saturday night dates and guess I am not really Dominant as I have pointed out in previous writings as if I were a TRUE dominant I would be dominating women AND men...o well...such is the luck [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] However I have been pondering subbie couples but with no real potentials yet as most disappear after intro...which is just fine as I do not intend to invest time with the unfocused [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] But in no place do I say 'what is morally right for a woman'. I say whats morally right for people who take on a moral obligation. That is simply keeping it. Good point..hope you are continually sucessful at it But your final premise was simply golden. Just for comedic shock value I think it's brilliant. That cheating spouses should feel good about themselves because politicians lie, too. Actually I believe you interjected another writers posts into My perception.... Kudos for coming up with a proposition thats simply too preposterous to easily be confronted on any rational level. Sorry I can not take credit for that one...I will simply let you get the credit....[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m10.gif[/image] Ross ©º°¨¨°º© ---------------------------------------------

Sinergy -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:37:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myobedience OMG !! This is total self righteous judging nonsense !! quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway For the people who stay because of the finances, here is another point of view and it applies equally for men and women. Whores screw for money but they don't stay with who they are screwing. Cheaters screw for free but they stay for money. Aren't they both whores then irrespective of the gender? And lies like "oh honey, there is nothing between your best friend and me" aren't kind, they are savage. How might you judge this scenerio ??? Navy man and wife seperate. He has cheated before and since their marriage. Upon seperation, she found herself one really nice man after several lovers. One son. They do NOT get divorced so the son and wife have health care benifits from the Navy dad (deadbeat... I can say it cause he is my ex bro in law). Navy man has how many children?? Lives with countless women and cheats on them. One in every port syndrome. Navy wife wants to marry said good man; son is not needing health care benefits anymore but navy man will NOT give divorce. 2 weeks later he gives divorce cause he has asked his live in "whore" (according to you) to marry him. What judge ye of this ultimate whoring about senario? If the person is going to cheat on their husband, what is going to stop them from cheating on me? Sinergy

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 2:39:32 PM)
My opinion does not matter on here Best of Luck quote: ORIGINAL: minnetar Sir Ross, This girl is confused. It seems that if noone agrees with Your values then that person is wrong. This girl values honor and trust. To do an act behind another's back is not being truthful or honorable. Not everyone has those same values but to each their own. minnetar

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a delicious (4/13/2007 2:40:37 PM)
Sometimes there are reasons one might not be able to voice an opinion.. Thanks for your discussion It was getting interesting quote: ORIGINAL: Hrafnkel Wow, this is lively. And yes. I see this in black and white terms. Because the question wasn't posited of one who yields to temptation in a troubled relationship. It was posited as in getting off on sneaking around and infidelity. And I find it really troublesome when one posts firm views and then equivocates into a "Erm, well, I... erm... black and white... sweeping generalisations... this is different..." Posture. You stand by your views under pressure or you don't. Saying that the other person doesn't understand is most often a case for not wanting to be pinned down to their own statements. If someone goes into a lifestyle that is all about insight and honesty and where people's emotional and physical well being is based on how honest, open, and responsible their partner is going to be, frankly I feel there's no room for the "It's fun to cheat" attitude. I feel it's juvenile, egocentric, and indicative of the sort of irresponsibility that someone will be citing for driving them out of this lifestyle on these very boards before the day is out. So, no, I don't find it cute, and I have no sympathy for people who don't want to stick by their guns for suggeting that it's more fun to screw around. And incidently, for the record, I am not making sweeping generalisations. I've been 'the other guy'. Not once. Not twice. And I can tell you how fun it is for all parties concerned in the long run, cause I've caused my share of damage. I've been the kind of bastard I'm talking about.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:41:40 PM)
you are correct I am a bad person Thank yo for pointing this out I am sure the world is a much better place now. quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway I'm not going to continue to go back and forth with you on your point of view argument. If you cheat, you betray. If you feel that betrayal and hiding something from your spouse is alright then it speaks volumes about your character. It couldn't be more simple than that. You want to be with someone else....leave the relationship or open the relationship. Your arguments for being deceiptful simply make evident the that risks someone runs in being with you.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: How many others prefer the submissive female to be married? Would you agree there is a deliciousness (4/13/2007 2:43:33 PM)
I will resume this discussion on several other places and sites on the internet thank you your appriciation and defamation of all those that participated. Ross

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