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I read your posting and I maintain my earlier stance that it is IRRELEVANT. It proves nothing. Just as I said before. Is it senility? The U.S. wasn't operating alone in gathering information on Iraq. The Brits gathered evidence and came to the opinion that Sadaam had either obtained WMD's or was trying to and so did France. So don't give your "Bush's premeditated" bullsh*t. Ok?
Let's talk about WMD's. Did we find Sarin? Sure. Did we find plutonium? Sure...google it. Plutonium in Iraq. Here is an excerpt of some of what you will find:
Iraq's Nuclear Weapon Program This is a brief history of Iraq's attempt to build a nuclear weapon. The emphasis is on Iraq's technical achievements rather than its motives, and the history relies primarily on the findings of U.N. inspection teams.
Iraq faced the same two challenges that every other country trying to develop a nuclear weapon has faced. First came the need to produce a critical mass of "fissile material" - uranium 235 or plutonium - the heavy metals needed to fuel a first-generation fission bomb. The second challenge was to produce a device that could cause the uranium or plutonium to explode in a nuclear chain reaction. This second process is called weaponization. Iraq attacked both challenges simultaneously.
Iraq spread the work among four major groups, all of which operated within the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission, and more specifically within the Commission's Department of Studies and Development (also known as Department 3000). Group I was responsible for producing uranium 235 by using diffusion barriers and centrifuges. Group II tried to do the same by using chemical and electromagnetic methods. Group III was responsible for computer modeling, and Group IV performed "special tasks," another term for weaponization. The program carried the code name Petrochemical 3 (PC-3).
I. Seeking Nuclear Fuel
Producing the fuel has always been the greatest challenge in nuclear bomb making. The difficulty of producing uranium 235 is that natural uranium contains only a very tiny amount (.7%) of this isotope. In order to fuel a bomb, the U-235 must be separated from the more abundant U-238 isotope in a process called enrichment. But because these two uranium isotopes are almost identical chemically, they cannot be readily separated by using a simple chemical reaction. They must be separated by exploiting the slight difference in their weights. Plutonium, on the other hand, is not found in nature in significant quantities, so it must be manufactured in a nuclear reactor.Electromagnetic Isotope Separation (EMIS) Iraq's main effort to produce U-235 was by the electromagnetic process (called EMIS). In this process, uranium atoms are ionized (given an electrical charge) then sent in a stream past powerful magnets. The heavier U-238 atoms are affected differently than the lighter U-235 atoms by the magnetic field, so the isotopes separate and can be captured by collectors. The separation process is repeated until a high concentration of U-235 is achieved. Iraq's design called for 93% enriched uranium, which required multiple stages of separation.
Iraq began this effort at the Tuwaitha site in 1982 after Israel bombed Iraq's Osirak reactor. The first separator unit (with a 400mm radius of beam curvature) was built to test Iraq's concept for the unit's insulator and liner. The 400mm unit was followed by 500mm and 1000mm units, used to test larger ion sources, multiple ion sources and a hexagonal liner design, as well as concepts for the control system and collectors. Next, components of a 1200mm system were designed for Tarmiya, and the magnet for a 600mm machine at Tarmiya was actually built. A double ion source and collector system for the 600mm unit was also designed. At the time of the Gulf war, eight 1200mm units were in limited operation at Tarmiya, and preparations had begun for a second group of seventeen 1200mm separators. According to Iraq's declarations to U.N. inspectors, it managed to produce 640 grams of enriched uranium with an average enrichment of 7.2% at Tuwaitha and some 685 grams at an average enrichment of 3% at Al Tarmiya. Fargle, your America hating postings are really grating. You'll look for anything you can to cast doubt on the current administration despite the fact everyone was sharing the same information. You'll cry and weep over the people that are dying in Iraq but you ignore facts. They are dying in large part to a civil war and are going to die regardless of whether we are there or not. But that doesn't matter to you. All you want to do is talk about how terrible this administration is. You ignore the fact that what is currently happening in Iraq will, in time, happen world wide as Islamo-Facism spreads. The United States is at the forefront of battling terrorism and if we fail, our darkest days are yet to come. Perhaps you missed 9/11. Maybe you were too busy criticizing your country on some other issue at the time. But when the next enormouse catastrophe occurs which MIGHT galvinize this country, but probably not, will you support fighting terror then? No...you probably won't. Hey Fargle, did you hear that 115 Iraqi warplanes escaped destruction by U.S. forces by fleeing to Iran? Now try to phathom this, Iraq invades Iran, war ensues for 8 years or so, the Iranian death toll reaches something like 800,000 and YET Iran gives safe harbor for Iraqi warplanes. Why? Because they were fleeing the United States and it is better to help someone that killed 800,000 of your people than do anything that might assist America. Oh....you can google that too.
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