Aswad
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ORIGINAL: lockedaway "The War Against America, by Laurie Mylroie, is highly releveant now for several reasons. [...] Her overriding concern, evident throughout these pages, was that the 1993 Trade Center bombing presaged futher attempts at terrorism on a massive scale on American soil. First off, there was a warning issued by the intelligence service prior to the attack, and it had a lot more detail. It got ignored, probably because it wasn't labeled in any particular way, and because the people who were supposed to read it didn't bother for that exact reason. Second, there have been no massive acts of terrorism on American soil. Sep 11 saw a few thousand people dead. More people die in traffic every year. This doesn't even rank if compared to some of the American acts of terrorism on foreign soil. No, I'm not talking about Iraq, that might be legitimate, depending on who you ask. I'm thinking about the stuff Powell commented on not being very proud of. You google it. You might want to start with the same date in a different year... Third, the only thing that changed with the attacks of Sep 11, was that terrorism for once had its intended effect on a larger opponent, much in the style of David and Goliath. Noam Chomsky puts this more clearly than I can, so google him. As far as a lot of people are concerned, myself (a European) and most Americans I know included, the terrorists have won. They got what they came for. With just a little bit of effort, they set the ball rolling, and the US govt is completing their job for them, with the aid of the media. quote:
Instead of directly addressing Fox's strong suspicions that Iraq was behind the 1993 bombing, however, the Clinton administration chose to treat this act of terrorism purely as a law enforcement issue. Emphasis was placed on arresting individuals, trying them in court, and securing convictions. This has worked well for every other civilized nation that has lived with terrorism, and there's no indication the "new" approach is faring any better. quote:
There's more. If you want, I'll give you my cell phone number so I can read the book to you since you will never read it on your own. I must say, you keep great company with Fargle and dcnovice. Too bad YOU'RE WRONG! How about you read some Chomsky instead: "9/11", "Hegemony and Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance", "Imperial Ambitions - Conversations on the post-9/11 world", "Failed States: The Abuse of Power and the Assault on Democracy" and "Perilous Power: The Middle East and U.S. Foreign Policy. Dialogues on Terror, Democracy, War and Justice". As I'm sure you know, it's always good to be exposed to an opposing view as well, and Chomsky is very concise and coherent, as he should be, given his contributions to the study of language. I may dislike his political alignment, but his argumentation with regard to politics and public matters is some of the best stuff out there. Not many people can "win" an argument by sticking to the facts the other side hasn't disputed, and he's made a habit of doing just that in many cases. quote:
Try getting behind your country...it's the only one you've got. No. Contrary to the beliefs of some, there is a world outside the USA. And while the US is reluctant to accept others moving there or even visiting, the rest of the world are generally more than happy to accept US citizens that want to move to a democratic nation. No offense. Just sticking to the facts, although the details on my first paragraph are sketchy.
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"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind. From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way. We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.
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