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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:19:47 AM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Wisdom, a lifetime of experience and being well read are more important than raw intellectual horsepower to me.  My ex made me look something like a dullard so while intelligence is very important it isn't a prime consideration although vacant looks and drooling are hard limits for me.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:21:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		If by intellectual  the OP ment quick to pick up and go with some thing. then BY all means YES! The thought of a pretty ,but dull witted slave leaves me cold.. best for me to have a plain ol' quick witted /common sense using partner who is able to pick up my wants  and needs with out having to explain my self every second time around. There is an old horse traders saying  that sort of fits my thinking here.. Color is the least important aspect to buying a horse.. I.E. Looks are the least if your needing/wanting some thing to be able to fulfill your needs beyond eye candy.  I hope the analogy made the transistion here..

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:22:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Intellect is very important.

As a side note: while I DO have college degrees, a degree isn't necessarily an indication of intellect. Higher education degrees are about opportunity, not necessarily intelligence.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:23:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
and so, another good conversational topic is thrown to the wolves.


If you think so poorly of us, why are you bothering?

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:24:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Afternoon onestandingstill,

Actually, a person that has attained a degree also shows some level of dedication, be it 2, 4, 6, or more years of additional education. 

To the rest of ya'll,

After the years of sex and debauchery are long gone, I think I might enjoy a bit of conversation.... so intelligence is a must.

I wish you well,
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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:27:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		this slave's opinion is that it is often overrated, as is beauty or virginity and is often used as a measuring stick to the denigration of others in much the same way.
 
the only time abbreviations after a name or titles before a name meant anything to this slave was when she was involved in Masonic youth organizations, going under the knife, or being represented in court.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:28:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: imthatacheyouhav

i am hoping education level isnt a prerequist for a slave....LOL i'd be in pretty bad shape if it were. i have raised a family <all 3 of my kids are grown now and i even have grandkids> i have successfully run a household for 23 years now and i feel like that has been no small feat. while i am not a "book smart"<have a 10th grade education> woman i feel like i do have my strong suites. i truely enjoy a good stimulating conversation and the occasional "debate" as well.... 


for me it isn't a prerequisite. I ask only that she is able to express her feelings and opinions. Like you I enjoy an occasional "debate" because I think you learn from debating but I won't ask a slave to have a degree in philosophy or something like that.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:34:39 AM   
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Well, virginity is always a one off (even with surgery)... but intellect, like beauty, is surely subjective? 
 
Intellect does not always mean qualifications.  Someone can have a miriad of degrees after their name, and still be a fool.
 
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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:35:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill
I'm surprised you do LA, I thought you were more open and less prejudice than that.

When it comes to people I want to spend the rest of my life with in an intimate relationship, I've found that having the college experience and training it provides to be a necessary factor.

It's not so much when discussing any other type of relationship though.
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I could see a materialistic person only wanting to date degreed people.
suzanne

I am a fairly materialistic person. 

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:38:53 AM   
onestandingstill


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ORIGINAL: Thadius

Afternoon onestandingstill,

Actually, a person that has attained a degree also shows some level of dedication, be it 2, 4, 6, or more years of additional education. 


Hello Thadius,
True, but this conversation is not about diligence, goals, or dedication.
It's about intellect.
I may have not had the funds to put myself through college as a single parent, but I consider myself a fairly intellectual, intelligent person.
I have other avenues such as being a great Mom with grown children as my degree that proves I'm diligent in my pursuits and dedicated to my commitments.
I'm not discounting the degrees or efforts that went into them, just trying to point out it's not the ONLY way.
suzanne
The lack of a degree does not mean I'm any less intellectual, it just means I didn't pay all the big bucks to have the paper to prove it IMO.
At the beginning of my post I stated "Degrees count to me in some small degree. "
I specifically included that statement as I also see someone who sets goals and stays diligent enough to accomplish them when I see a degree.
I'm not discounting the degree has prestige attached, just that it matters at all as to someone's intellectual capacity.
suzanne

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:43:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am a very critical thinker, and I need someone that can stimulate me intellectually in order to form any sort of friendship to begin with, let alone an intimate relationship.

As WiseCracknSadit put it: I can only stare at tits for so long.


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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:45:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
When it comes to people I want to spend the rest of my life with in an intimate relationship, I've found that having the college experience and training it provides to be a necessary factor.


I'm a grad student, and this is what I tell my students.  The key to success isn't whether you're a chem major or a lit major.  It's whether you know/have been trained in problem solving, critical thinking, and communicating what you've learned to others.

Personally, I like to be intellectual stimulation as well as the physical and emotional realms. ;-)

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:46:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

What is the importance of intellect to you in selecting a partner?  Some, all or none...?



Hopefully someone who is conversant on a variety of different subjects and levels (subjects not restricted to D/s).  Someone who is openminded.  Someone who has an insatiable curiosity about the mysteries of life and of the universe.  And finally, someone who isn't too politically polarized (or politically parylized). 


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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:47:44 AM   
Thadius


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Status: offline 		Ello again,

Oh I understand completely that a degree is definitely not a sign of intellect, I will hold back on comment of the number of degreed folks I have worked with that would rate very low on the intellectual food chain.  My comment was more in response to the only purpose to consider somebody with a degree was monetary.

The girl I own now, dropped out of school after 10th grade, she suffers from dyslexia.  Her mind is actually very sharp, and her intelligence impresses me regularly.  As a side note, I am currently working with her on overcoming the issues with spatial relationships, and her thirst for reading is becoming harder to quench.  Tis a beautiful thing.

I wish you well,
Thadius

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:57:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm suprised that so few are putting less on sexual attraction and more on intellect. That's BS. Sure we would like to be able to communicate on an intelligent level. Let an attractive man/woman show an interest in you and intelligence goes out the window. It is human nature.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:59:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

What is the importance of intellect to you in selecting a partner? Some, all or none...?

What are the things you look for online that exemplify intellect? If you previously answered "none", no need to post further. Go back and look at more pictures.

I'd be particularly interested in skipping past those posts which are excessively long, include numerous quotes or, god help us all, links...

but if you have an original thought, feeling or opinion, why not share it as if we were all listening? No need to write an epic, summarize for us, please.

and so, another good conversational topic is thrown to the wolves.


I like intelligence in a submissive. For me, it is represented by the ability to enjoy...or if not enjoy, at least have a passing knowledge of, almost anything except those things that are utterly without taste...even given the idea that taste is subjective, there are just some things that are just bad. ~g~ I like there to be enough intelligence to carry on a conversation and be able to go where I like to go and take me places in my mind and heart that I have not been or not thought/felt in that way.

It can be a pain...sometimes, people tend to over-analyze everything and intelligent people can be as guilty of that as anyone...and making it worse, because of their intelligence, they can come up with as many reasons why they should not do something as for why they should. That can stifle submission. It can stifle dominance. Let's be honest, over-analysis can paralyze many actions we might take in any aspect of life. So...the one bit of intelligence that would definitely be necessary would be the intelligence to realize that not everything needs to be questioned and that part of submission and dominance is doing our best to do what we have said we would.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 11:59:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Intellect is very important to me. I like to be able to have an intellligent  conversation with someone. It is more than about the physical aspect for me. An intelligent mind is very sexy and appealing.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 12:00:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

I'm suprised that so few are putting less on sexual attraction and more on intellect. That's BS. Sure we would like to be able to communicate on an intelligent level. Let an attractive man/woman show an interest in you and intelligence goes out the window. It is human nature.

The question asked wasn't "where do you place sexual attraction relative to intellectual attraction."

The question what "How important is intellectual attraction to you and in what way"

Very different questions- you seem to think we're answering Q1

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 12:01:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt
I'd be particularly interested in skipping past those posts which are excessively long, include numerous quotes or, god help us all, links...


LOL it's obvious Oedipus doesn't enjoy the intellect which involves retention and research skills.

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RE: Intellectual Appeal - 4/18/2007 12:03:17 PM   
OedipusRexIt


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If you think so poorly of us, why are you bothering?

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I think the responses to this thread have been surprisingly mature.  Unusually so, perhaps because of my pro-active snarkieness, even?

Seriously.  Why bother?  I ask myself every time I think of something I would love to talk about with other smart people, only to have it shat upon by idiots.  Worse, is when it's hijacked by inflated egos.

I'm not calling you, or anyone in particular, either of those thing.  Just dignifying your question with an answer. 

Wish everyone could handle debate as well as you do, so enjoy...

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