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gypsygrl -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 1:17:47 PM)
Are you asking me directly? I tend to connect with people through their writing first since I use the internet so I would have to say its intellect that captures my attention.

MissUnleaded -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 1:23:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dnomyar I'm suprised that so few are putting less on sexual attraction and more on intellect. That's BS. Sure we would like to be able to communicate on an intelligent level. Let an attractive man/woman show an interest in you and intelligence goes out the window. It is human nature. Sadly, you are right. Signed, The ugly, smart girl.

Halley -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 1:41:39 PM)
Intelligence is everything to me. Someone saying yes Mistress repeatedly bores me to tears. If you want me, capture my mind first. All though I will say an intelligent slave is more likely to try to play head games with you. I guess that's part of the challenge. But then I like a challenge.

Kana -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 2:17:51 PM)
Intellect is important to me, as is intelligence. I like teaching. I don’t like continuously repeating myself. Prolonged repetitive explanations tire me out. I do not confuse education with intellect. For me intellect is the capacity for higher thought, the ability to be aware of and process information from inputs. I know educated people who are dumber than rocks but capable of regurgitation and dropouts who are intellectually capable of broad contextual thinking. I don’t like people who are pretentious, or pedantic. I look for coherency of thought and conciseness in a profile. Vocabulary and originality of thought count as well.

losttreasure -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 2:54:52 PM)
I might add my preference, but it would just be saying pretty much the same thing as nearly every other poster in the past four pages. However, I am curious as to what was expected; that anyone would come forward and proudly say that they prefer their partner to have the intelligence of a stump? That it doesn't matter as long as they are hot and have the same kinks? I'm sure that each of us has, in our own minds, an idea of what level of intelligence that we consider acceptable in a mate, but that is very subjective and relative to our own intelligence. A dom that one sub considers to be very intelligent, I might consider to be of mere average ability, or perhaps even challenged. To address the question you asked that nearly all here have overlooked, the things I look for online that indicate intellect are profiles, forum posts, or emails that are well thought out, reasoned, articulate, and display skill in spelling and grammar. Of course, I'd never take any one communication as proof positive, but if what I read meets my own standards, then I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. [;)]

SDFemDom4cuck -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:04:19 PM)
quote: Not only intellect, but education is highly important to me as well (ie degrees count), as well as intellect and understanding in at least some of the same key areas that I have. With all due respect LA, I'm a bit suprised by this coming from you. A degree has little to do with intellect. Case in point..myself. I have a fairly high IQ (high 140's and I'm not saying that to brag but simply to support my point here) and until recently had never attended college. I spent the years between the ages of 18 and 37 raising my UM and working my butt off to support him alone. I had neither the time nor the excess funds to attend college. Every dime possible that I earned after paying the bills went into his college fund. Throughout my corporate career it never seemed to fail that I would take an entry level position (eg, receptionist) because I didn't have a degree and therefore didn't qualify for a better position. That entry position rarely lasted long and I was repeatedly promoted into a much higher position (EA for the CEO or VP) because of my intelligence and ability even without the college degree. My last position before leaving to go to school I went from minimum wage as a CSR to earning close to 60K as the Departmental Manager within a 2 month timespan. Most people that know me are pretty shocked I don't have some form of degree in higher education. When I discussed my recent enrollment in school with a friend I've known for well over 5 years his first assumption was that I was studying for my PhD. I am still chuckling over the jaw agape look of shock on his face when I told him I didn't have an AA let alone a Bachelors or Masters degree previously. So, while I respect your right to have this as your opinion, I have to also just as respectfully disagree that having a college degree has anything to do with intellect or intelligence. To the OP, I apologize for my digression from the topic at hand and will say that intellect is extremely important to me as is the continued desire to learn and grow intellectually as a person in response to your question.

addicted2it -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:13:11 PM)
Agreed! It's difficult enough to find someone who's kink matches yours without adding an educational requirement. And I completely agree with what others have posted here about the intelligence of those who do not have a college degree as opposed that those who don't. Intelligence is not measured by one's ability to afford a college education. I know many people who are much smarter than their college educated counterparts; and I have a great deal more respect for those who have managed to educate themselves when the funds and opportunity to attend college were not available were not available to them.

OedipusRexIt -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:16:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: losttreasure I might add my preference, but it would just be saying pretty much the same thing as nearly every other poster in the past four pages. However, I am curious as to what was expected; that anyone would come forward and proudly say that they prefer their partner to have the intelligence of a stump? That it doesn't matter as long as they are hot and have the same kinks? I'm sure that each of us has, in our own minds, an idea of what level of intelligence that we consider acceptable in a mate, but that is very subjective and relative to our own intelligence. A dom that one sub considers to be very intelligent, I might consider to be of mere average ability, or perhaps even challenged. To address the question you asked that nearly all here have overlooked, the things I look for online that indicate intellect are profiles, forum posts, or emails that are well thought out, reasoned, articulate, and display skill in spelling and grammar. Of course, I'd never take any one communication as proof positive, but if what I read meets my own standards, then I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. [;)] Actually, I did expect a lot of juvenile crap, and am truly pleased at how many posters took a serious whack at the post's main points. Someone could just as well have hijacked the thread in an ode to stump-love. It happens all too often... I also appreciate that you brought the discussion back to the most interesting part in your last paragraph. Well said. *edited to correct a spelling error

kiyari -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:18:28 PM)
To some 'degree', obtaining a degree has to do with finances... it might be some 'proof' of potential or aptitude, but lack of a degree ... well... you might be overlooking some proverbial 'diamond in the rough' Just saying

LadyPact -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:21:14 PM)
Yes, at this point of the post, it almost seems like preaching to the choir. Intellect is important to Me, but I don't need a piece of paper to prove it. A degree doesn't mean much, if one has no common sense. As many have said, it translates to a lot of things, but not intellect.

ExSteelAgain -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:21:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Not only intellect, but education is highly important to me as well (ie degrees count), as well as intellect and understanding in at least some of the same key areas that I have. Intellect, for sure, whether degrees mean that much can be debated. This is from someone with a PhD who plays with someone who will soon have the same. The reason I disagree is that I didn't finish my undergrad degree until later than most. I was in the Army, etc. Many writers and artists never finish anything formal. I don't think I was that bad before I moved my tassle to the other side. If you had said degrees indicate a level of discipline and an ability to work hard, I may have agreed, but to say you feel it is, flat out, that important I'll disagree. PS...I would still fuck you.

Mercnbeth -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:21:46 PM)
Well, I'll admit to not setting up a fist time meeting with someone for over 4 years, but don't tell me that resumes are now presented with a copy of diploma?! Saying you have a degree may make people think you are intelligent but it should not be considered fact. Neither the degree or the intelligence. You know, I've heard a rumor that some people actually misrepresent themselves in their profiles and IM chats. It's not like the truthful answer you always expect to get when you ask if they are married. Dr. Merc

Suleiman -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:31:50 PM)
I've known too many PHDs to believe that a degree equates flat-out with intellect. Most professors become so dogmatically hidebound it seems there's no talking to them. Furthermore, there's as much politics as intellectual accomplishment involved in getting anything past a Master's. By the logic that having a degree equates with intelligence, I must qualify as an effing idiot. After all, I'm a high-school dropout. Silly me, I just enjoy reading books and taking classes. I never cared about getting the sheepskin - never mind the number of diploma mills in existance that make it easy for anyone with cash to log a few years in attendance and get a diploma and a handshake without actually having learned anything. More often than not, you can learn more about a person, especially a potential lover, by talking to them, than you ever will from reading their resume.

BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:35:15 PM)
I doubt anyone wants a relationship with a nitwit, unless of course they're a nitwit too, and want their intellectual equal. [8\|] I've met people with loads of degrees and booksmarts who I'd slit my wrists if I had to be around for long. And I've met people with little formal education who were the most fascinating people to be around. So I suppose for me, I guess you could say it's about how the intellect is projected and the overall package it comes in. Hope that made sense. [&:]

blushingflower -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:35:34 PM)
Quoting directly from my the top journal entry in my profile: I value three things above all others in a partner- intelligence, kindness, and a sense of humor. I am a smart woman, and I can't be in a relationship with someone I can't say is as intelligent as I am. On the Internet, intelligence is demonstrated through use of language (which is fine by me as I love words and language). This means that, bitchy as it may sound, I will judge you by your emails. How can I trust you to master me if you can't master the language? I've said before I won't date anyone who doesn't have at least a Bachelor's. That may be elitest of me, but I don't care.

minnetar -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:36:19 PM)
Intellect is extremely important to me. i feel that helps the Master have a better understanding of me as a person. i also enjoy the mental areas of D/s. minnetar

blushingflower -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:42:23 PM)
quote: Education and intellect are not neccesarily tacked together by default. quote: ORIGINAL: Stranger1 quote: ORIGINAL: onestandingstill quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross education is highly important to me as well (ie degrees count Degrees count to me in some small degree. I think it's a ludicrous notion to believe just because someone holds a degree they are intelligent. I know more people with Doctorate degrees who are not as common sense smart as 12 year olds. I don't put that much stock in degrees when it comes to if I can decide someone's intelligent or not. I'm surprised you do LA, I thought you were more open and less prejudice than that. Now if dating financially secure people and money is your motivation someone with a college degree may still be dumb as a stick, but paying for the degree does usually pay off with better jobs & more income. I could see a materialistic person only wanting to date degreed people. suzanne Agreed. Degrees = income to many. All we collect in this world will leave us when we die. I think it better to leave behind a postive legacy, rather than a big pile of toys that are only going to be given away anyhow. Education and intellect are not neccesarily tacked together by default. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't look for a degree because I want someone who makes money (though financial stability is something I certainly desire, both on my own and in a partner). I look for a degree because for me, college was an incredibly important experience, and I have a hard time relating to people who didn't go to college. College also provides you with exposure to a wide range of ideas and information, which you might not otherwise get if you're self-educated (though you might). I'm a big believer in liberal arts education- I don't care if you're going to be an engineer and it's not at all related to your career, you should be required to take at least one course in world religions, one literature class, one history class, and one class on world politics/government. I agree, a degree isn't proof of intelligence (hell, I went to college, and I had some really moronic classmates). It is, however, proof of a certain experience and also, occaionally of a certain level of expertise. I prefer more than a Bachelor's honestly, and I love to hear Daddy, who's a lawyer, expound on Constitutional matters.

BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:42:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael Wisdom, a lifetime of experience and being well read are more important than raw intellectual horsepower to me. My ex made me look something like a dullard so while intelligence is very important it isn't a prime consideration although vacant looks and drooling are hard limits for me. scratches Michael off of potential list and wipes drool off of her pillow

ExSteelAgain -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:43:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Suleiman I never cared about getting the sheepskin - never mind the number of diploma mills in existance that make it easy for anyone with cash to log a few years in attendance and get a diploma and a handshake without actually having learned anything. The silly, unaccredited degrees are just that...silly. They don't help you get a job in teaching, research or whatever, even if you are called Doctor down at the bar. Employment things are checked out even if you have the most beautiful, well framed, degree.

blushingflower -> RE: Intellectual Appeal (4/18/2007 3:47:45 PM)
quote: I'm suprised that so few are putting less on sexual attraction and more on intellect. That's BS. Sure we would like to be able to communicate on an intelligent level. Let an attractive man/woman show an interest in you and intelligence goes out the window. It is human nature. The brain is the largest sex organ. What turns me on isn't how you look, it's how you think. My eyes are closed 90-95% of the time when I'm having sex or being played with. What matters to me, sexually, are that the person is dominant and can give my body (and mind) the sensations I crave. I'd rather be with someone who was ugly, but smart and creative and good to me, than with someone who looked like George Clooney but couldn't come up with creative ways to use me or things to talk about afterwards. Don't get me wrong, if George Clooney knocked on my door and wanted to fuck me, I'd invite him right on in. But for a relationship, the brain matters.

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