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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 3:52:52 PM

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And do you find it humorous when others sing chants wanting to kill us?

Has it got a good beat you can dance to?

Where is your empathy now??? If you knew what it was like to be a veteran of combat and captivity, you might not be so quick to criticize. But that is just my opinion, some of us are just more understanding and tolerant than others I suppose .

Rich:
Yup ol John sure is a combat vet.
It appears he that flew six missions before he got shot down the first time he encountered hostile fire.
thompson

Yeah, but it still counts. I seem to recall John Kerry earned 3 Purple Hearts in 4 odd months. Some said that made him a hero, others say it meant he was too dumb to duck.

Didn't McCain lose some time to 'friendly fire' injuries as well? (Really bad pun, I know, but I'm especially jovial at the moment and don't care.)

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 4:16:49 PM

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Rich:
You are correct about the "friendly fire" injuries. He also crashed a couple of times on his own. Gotta wonder how an academy graduate and the son and grandson of admirals was still a lieutenant after ten years of active duty.
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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 4:34:30 PM

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Rich:
You are correct about the "friendly fire" injuries. He also crashed a couple of times on his own. Gotta wonder how an academy graduate and the son and grandson of admirals was still a lieutenant after ten years of active duty.
thompson

O-3 or O2? (damn Navy rank...). 3 would seem about right I think. The 'old boy' network can't really kick in until you get to the big promotions, 5 to 6 and the critical one from 6 to 7. Just my impression of course. With my mouth, I had enough trouble getting from E-2 to E-3.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 4:58:46 PM

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Rich:
You are correct about the "friendly fire" injuries. He also crashed a couple of times on his own. Gotta wonder how an academy graduate and the son and grandson of admirals was still a lieutenant after ten years of active duty.
thompson

O-3 or O2? (damn Navy rank...). 3 would seem about right I think. The 'old boy' network can't really kick in until you get to the big promotions, 5 to 6 and the critical one from 6 to 7. Just my impression of course. With my mouth, I had enough trouble getting from E-2 to E-3.

Rich:
It goes ensign, Lt.JG, Lieutenant. 1,2,3
His date of rank would have been upon completion of the academy in june of 58. Typically 12 months later you get the silver bar. Two years after that you get the rail road tracks.Three years later you get your first shot at the gold leaf. If you get passed over three times for the gold leaf you get dumped. As a pow his rank came automatically with no proficiency reports and minimum time in grade. That is how he became a four striper.
Ten years in the navy with "the ring" on your finger and still a O3 means you are a looser with PI.
I never doubted for a moment that your stripes were not attached with velcro.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:05:55 PM

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If a man a brick shy of a full load gets their vote... go them!

Two words and a letter, George W. Bush.

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Has no impact in the long haul.

I have to disagree...

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:07:06 PM

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Rich:
You are correct about the "friendly fire" injuries. He also crashed a couple of times on his own. Gotta wonder how an academy graduate and the son and grandson of admirals was still a lieutenant after ten years of active duty.
thompson

Weren't 5 of those years spent in a POW camp?

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:18:30 PM

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I never doubted for a moment that your stripes were not attached with velcro.
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Who would have thought I'd find a seam ripper at the bottom of a bottle of saki... Oh well, the discharge said "honorable."

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:33:46 PM

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If a man a brick shy of a full load gets their vote... go them!

Two words and a letter, George W. Bush.

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Has no impact in the long haul.

I have to disagree...

Sinergy

You are right, lets see who else the republicans nominate before I jump the the conclusion is does not matter whom they go with. They may surprise me and nominate someone worth a crap... as it is, I do not see what difference it makes who wins the republican nomination in the long haul. The war is so unpopular all I can say is "good luck" to whomever announces an intention to escalate it.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:42:30 PM

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The war is so unpopular all I can say is "good luck" to whomever announces an intention to escalate it.

Yes, but if the Dems nominate someone who plans to lose a war, Newt could wind up with a landslide. (I consider that a nightmare scenario btw.)

Too many in the bundle aren't very good at all at disguising their hatred of their own country. Doesn't play well in the sticks that have electoral votes. Ask McGovern.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:47:53 PM

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I seriously have to laugh whenever I read anything about McCain. That guy is through -- He doesn't have a chance in hell at becoming president. I live in a town that is virtual nest for repulicans, and they talk about McCain worse than they do Rosie O'donnell -- No joke.... from guns to illegals, he's a complete ''sell out'' to them.

- R

I had an invitation to see John McCain wednesday at the VFW Post where he said that here in Myrtle Beach (Murrell's Inlet)
I asked 3 different people if they wanted to go and they told me no.
He never should have started that "Amnesty" stuff for illegals.
Boy did he piss off a lot of people.
He lost the whole conservative side of the republican party with that shit.
He should just pack it in and enjoy his retirement.
Mitt Romney will probably be the next President.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:52:09 PM

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What will happen is AnencephalyBoy will postpone and waste time and eventually leave office.

At which point somebody with half a brain will be elected in order to be blamed by the Right for the failure of the United States military to pacify Iraq.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 5:55:47 PM

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I seriously have to laugh whenever I read anything about McCain. That guy is through -- He doesn't have a chance in hell at becoming president. I live in a town that is virtual nest for repulicans, and they talk about McCain worse than they do Rosie O'donnell -- No joke.... from guns to illegals, he's a complete ''sell out'' to them.

- R

I had an invitation to see John McCain wednesday at the VFW Post where he said that here in Myrtle Beach (Murrell's Inlet)
I asked 3 different people if they wanted to go and they told me no.
He never should have started that "Amnesty" stuff for illegals.
Boy did he piss off a lot of people.
He lost the whole conservative side of the republican party with that shit.
He should just pack it in and enjoy his retirement.
Mitt Romney will probably be the next President.

I disagree. McCain never had the support of the Religious right. That is 40% of the party.

Romney never had the support of the Religious right. = -40%.

I suspect somebody like Buchanan or Brownback will split them off from the party and form a religous party.

At which point whatever Democrat who is dumb enough to actually want the job will get elected and become the whipping boy blamed for our failure in Iraq and the Depression which AnencephalyBoy is leading us in to.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 6:55:56 PM

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i think McCain has a problem with insensitivity.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 7:02:25 PM

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I can hear the Democrats singing "Another Bites the Dust" after McCain's comment.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 7:02:39 PM

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Sinergy, I said the "conservative" side not the "religeous right."
Who cares what they think?

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 7:31:59 PM

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Sinergy, I said the "conservative" side not the "religeous right."
Who cares what they think?

I know what you said, popeye1250, but the only reason the conservative side was able to overthrow the stranglehold of the Democrats on Congress was by catering to the Religious Right.

My point was that they are losing 40% of their party, and last election was decided by some incredibly minor percentage of the vote.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 8:07:09 PM

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My point was that they are losing 40% of their party, and last election was decided by some incredibly minor percentage of the vote.

Sinergy

       That's in the base, Sinergy. I'll do what little I can, but they will likely be able to keep the most electable candidate off the ticket. The Fundy Right is a much smaller % of the general electorate.

      Honestly, I think the Dems are in MUCH greater danger of being split in '08, for reasons we don't really need to get into again.

     I don't think McCain is the one. Perhaps he SHOULD have split the party in '00...   I've already volunteered with Giuliani. I don't know much about Romney. I need to watch a few speeches and see him running extemporaneous in some live interviews.

      What I want most in '08 is a winner with a clear mandate.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 8:11:37 PM

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My point was that they are losing 40% of their party, and last election was decided by some incredibly minor percentage of the vote.

Sinergy

      That's in the base, Sinergy. I'll do what little I can, but they will likely be able to keep the most electable candidate off the ticket. The Fundy Right is a much smaller % of the general electorate.

     Honestly, I think the Dems are in MUCH greater danger of being split in '08, for reasons we don't really need to get into again.

    I don't think McCain is the one. Perhaps he SHOULD have split the party in '00...   I've already volunteered with Giuliani. I don't know much about Romney. I need to watch a few speeches and see him running extemporaneous in some live interviews.

     What I want most in '08 is a winner with a clear mandate.

I would vote for Giuliani. I prefer a person who calls it like they see it and is not afraid to go against the current.

Unfortunately, I am not sure any candidate is going to get a clear mandate in '08.

Sinergy

p.s. Having said that, I imagine Al Gore will win. He is quite popular now because of his movie and his success pulling the stick out of his ass that Democratic consultants put up there. He also beats almost everybody because he never once supported the war in Iraq. That will be difficult for anybody to overcome.

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 8:17:43 PM

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My point was that they are losing 40% of their party, and last election was decided by some incredibly minor percentage of the vote.

Sinergy

      That's in the base, Sinergy. I'll do what little I can, but they will likely be able to keep the most electable candidate off the ticket. The Fundy Right is a much smaller % of the general electorate.

     Honestly, I think the Dems are in MUCH greater danger of being split in '08, for reasons we don't really need to get into again.

    I don't think McCain is the one. Perhaps he SHOULD have split the party in '00...   I've already volunteered with Giuliani. I don't know much about Romney. I need to watch a few speeches and see him running extemporaneous in some live interviews.

     What I want most in '08 is a winner with a clear mandate.

In the book American Theocracy, the author plantatively makes the point that 40% of the Republican electorate used to stay home and not vote at all. These were the Evangelicals that were not politically involved hardly at all, that has changed over the last couple of decades due to many factors. The point is, once these people are no longer being catered to, they will either become disenfranchised or emboldened to start their own party. They have had a taste of political power, so I am thinking a split for a party based upon religion is not inconceivable. These are not the types to compromise their positions, one does not compromise when they are a soldier of god, do they?

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RE: Bomb, bomb, bomb.. - 4/20/2007 8:17:59 PM

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My point was that they are losing 40% of their party, and last election was decided by some incredibly minor percentage of the vote.

Sinergy

     That's in the base, Sinergy. I'll do what little I can, but they will likely be able to keep the most electable candidate off the ticket. The Fundy Right is a much smaller % of the general electorate.

    Honestly, I think the Dems are in MUCH greater danger of being split in '08, for reasons we don't really need to get into again.

   I don't think McCain is the one. Perhaps he SHOULD have split the party in '00...   I've already volunteered with Giuliani. I don't know much about Romney. I need to watch a few speeches and see him running extemporaneous in some live interviews.

    What I want most in '08 is a winner with a clear mandate.

I would vote for Giuliani. I prefer a person who calls it like they see it and is not afraid to go against the current.

Unfortunately, I am not sure any candidate is going to get a clear mandate in '08.

Sinergy

p.s. Having said that, I imagine Al Gore will win. He is quite popular now because of his movie and his success pulling the stick out of his ass that Democratic consultants put up there. He also beats almost everybody because he never once supported the war in Iraq. That will be difficult for anybody to overcome.

He was extremely strong in regards to the 9-11 tragedy. What about his number of his divorces and his wife's? Also what about his opinions he voiced while he was mayor that is totally different than what the republican party stands for? Can he stand up when he changes his mind to adhere to the party line?

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