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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007
Its make me wonder how many other dams are set up as hydroelectric and are not in use . I bet dozens at least.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

People forget about Russia.
They have more "known" reserves than the entire middle east combined.
Russia is huge, it comprises 14 different time zones. The continental U.S. has 4.
That must be why Exxon/Mobil and all the other big oil companies are involved in Russia.

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there is twice as much oil in iraq as we belived.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6570623.stm

the native americans did fine without oil. life does not end when the oil ends.. i think perhaps life will get better.

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Plutonium is an emitter (don't remember what- pretty sure it's a gamma emitter)- is easier to track- but if ingested- see the movie DOA (wasn't plutonium, but you get the idea)-and it takes really, really small amounts to do you in.  You can ingest a lot more uranium and survive. "

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Plutonium is an emitter (don't remember what- pretty sure it's a gamma emitter)- is easier to track- but if ingested- see the movie DOA (wasn't plutonium, but you get the idea)-and it takes really, really small amounts to do you in.  You can ingest a lot more uranium and survive. "

Hi samboct--

Plutonium's an alpha emitter.

thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: deadbluebird

i don't understand exactly what your trying to say. are you saying human life is dependent on oil? we Need it to exsist? seems a bit silly to me.

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ORIGINAL: Griswold

Try getting your Chevy to the market on chocpuffs.

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Try getting your Chevy to the market on chocpuffs.

What about all those people who have bumper stickers that say...

"I would rather push a Chevy than drive a Ford."

They should not have any problem getting their Chevy to the market.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: deadbluebird
the native americans did fine without oil. life does not end when the oil ends.. i think perhaps life will get better.

Yeah..let's all hold hands and sing Kumbayah 'round the campfire   Life as we know it in 21st century America is not anything like the world the Native American's enjoyed.  What you're talking about is pretty idealistic and i'm not sure it's even desirable.  No, life doesn't end but hey, the Native Americans sure didn't have the internet either.  Are you sure you really want to live like they did?   slave luci

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ORIGINAL: deadbluebird
the native americans did fine without oil. life does not end when the oil ends.. i think perhaps life will get better.

Yeah..let's all hold hands and sing Kumbayah 'round the campfire   Life as we know it in 21st century America is not anything like the world the Native American's enjoyed.  What you're talking about is pretty idealistic and i'm not sure it's even desirable.  No, life doesn't end but hey, the Native Americans sure didn't have the internet either.  Are you sure you really want to live like they did?   slave luci

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Everyone run i have been thinking again!  (God help us all) i have been connecting the dots with the fake global warming (Yeah...all those glaciers floating around in places they never were before...TIME magazine is behind that to increase sales) and fake terrorism (pipe bombs, dead children, etc....sure...it's all fake), the war that will last 100 years etc and here is what i come up with.

First america nevers pays attention to anything until our asses are 1/2 gone in the meat grinder then we go um duh our asses are 1/2 gone think we should do somthing about it now?  Always when it is to late...  its a matter of history.

So here is what ithink is the big picture.

First if you all do not know we only have about 30 years max of oil supply left in this world (sure...uh huh), so if you got a hummer enjoy it while you can.  We have no serious r&d where we are pouring in zillions of bucks to make new energy sources. 

If you tell people that there is only 30 years left of oil they look at you with this incredibly dumbfounded look on their face like duh wha?  Well its tru we are at the end of the oil age and its coming to a halt fast.  Why else would we fake a war and with our military protect the only remaining oil reserves in the world (Of course, let's not consider in the mix the most recent discovery by Chevron in the Gulf of Mexico of something on the order of 15 billion barrels which will begin flowing in roughly 7 years, the Alaskan oil yet to be tapped of an estimated similar amount, a recent Russian discovery of close to 5 billion barrels, or even the latest Cuban news that they have located close to 20 billion barrels off their coast in recent months...but hey, we don't need facts for a decent argument now, do we?).

At the same time create a huge global warming scare to reduce the use of fossil fuels (You're not even remotely close to the real story...but that's okay, from previous posts, I'd venture a guess that educating you is enough of an uphill climb, it's simply not worth the effort).

These are 2 very simple dots that i have connected here that i think tells a huge story that is not being told to the people of the world.  we are running out of oil, and once it is gone thats it the end curtain falls show over.

Then what?  30 years tops, then what?  Make sense?

Only those with an education of a four year old would debate global warming.  It's a fact, it's here and it will run it's cycle.  We may survive it and we may not, but stopping its march on our planet is not something we'll avoid.
 
Is it caused by humans?  That's one I'm not smart enough to debate.  Are we exarcebating the problem?  I'm not smart enough for that one either, but I can assure you, as a planet, as a society, as a people, we are smart enough to make sure we don't make it worse...which certainly means doing many of the same things we've always done, with fewer carbon polluting fossil fuels.
 
If indeed we are running out of fossil fuels, then this will have been a good wake up call for us to find alternative methods to achieve our goals, giving us ample time to replace our profligate ways with methods much healthier for our planet.
 
If as some suggest, we are not running out of oil, what better opportunity for us to find alternate methods of achieving our needs, than the previous one, which sends money to people who are determined to kill their very own fatted goose, turning every dollar we send them by purchasing their oil, into 50 cents worth of bombs to kill our own people (and in almost as many cases....their own people)?
 
If it's all just an enormous hoax and we end up sending fewer dollars over to people that want to see us 6 feet under, thereby negating their financial ability to do so, or it turns out to be one of the few things we've been told by higher ups that have turned out to be actual fact in our lifetimes....personally, I'm glad the discussion has begun.

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First if you all do not know we only have about 30 years max of oil supply left in this world, so if you got a hummer enjoy it while you can.  We have no serious r&d where we are pouring in zillions of bucks to make new energy sources. ...


These are 2 very simple dots that i have connected here that i think tells a huge story that is not being told to the people of the world.  we are running out of oil, and once it is gone thats it the end curtain falls show over.

Then what?  30 years tops, then what?  Make sense?

Yeah...

About that...

There is enough pristine, untapped sweet crude oil under the ice in Antarctica to meet human need for the next 500 years.

do you have any data on that?

Canada is actually trying to produce the oil from their sand, why would they do that if it is so plentiful?

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"This is an unrealistic assumption.We could use up all the fissionable U-235 maybe but U-238 is  over 100 times more abundent. You use U-238 in a fast breeder reactor( google breeder reactor or super-phenix) to make fissionable plutonium-239 . A breeder reactor uses the U-238 to make the plutonium-239  and in 10 years  it makes enough to  power a second reactor.  During this 10 year process it uses the heat of the reaction to produce electricity. Then you start all over."

Unfortunately, Plutonium is about the most toxic stuff known in the universe (and I don't remember what the other daughter product is of U-238 when its bombarded- but it's got to be lighter.)  Uranium is far less toxic than plutonium- since U-235 or 238 are both pretty stable isotopes-basically don't emit anything unless it's getting close to critical mass.  (Problem for detection- it's hard to detect unless you use a neutron detector- which works great-but it kinda zorches any humans nearby.  D'OH!)  Plutonium is an emitter (don't remember what- pretty sure it's a gamma emitter)- is easier to track- but if ingested- see the movie DOA (wasn't plutonium, but you get the idea)-and it takes really, really small amounts to do you in.  You can ingest a lot more uranium and survive.  Don't think anyone has ever lived from plutonium ingestion- any measurable quantity.  This is why nobody wants to touch plutonium as a power source- since fission plants use tons of fissionable materials- manufacturing that volume of a super toxic material really doesn't make a lot of sense.

I read somewhere that a teaspoon of plutonium dropped into the Potomac river would kill everything in Washington D.C.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: fingerman075

let talk about how people have come up with cars that run on very little gas,will the gas conpany buy them out too keep them form selling they cars ,gas company will pay inventer a millons not too put them on the market