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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/25/2007 7:00:00 PM

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Hi puella,

It drives me crazy, I often just wait for them to break out the lollies and water balloons.

It is more prevalent here on one forum than others but I used to see it in chat rooms all the time too.

The thing is that behavior gets rewarded, if it didn't they would stop doing it.

I don't think it has -anything- to do with looking for someone(or havng someone who does) to take care of you or with not wanting responsbility..I fit that category and I would stick flaming needles in my eye balls before I would engage in that type of behavior.

That type of silly immature "girliness" is rewarded in some way or they would stop doing it.

what she said..... gimme some meaty conversation instead.

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/26/2007 3:19:17 AM

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I suppose the 'rewarding of it' is an issue, but honestly.. I find it much more eggregious that the women do it to themselves. No need to foist the issue off on others when you can ususally find plenty to look at right in your own back yard.

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/26/2007 10:11:55 AM

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i wouldn't call it a submissive thing so much as a typical girlie thing. i've never been able to tolerate it either...giggling over nothing, long discussions about shoes or make-up, and just general pointless and nonproductive chatter. probably why i've never really had any female friends.

i saw a few chalk it up to lack of maturity, being overly dependent, etc. however i would describe myself as immature in certain ways, extremely dependent on my Master. He's my Daddy after all, and takes care of me in every essential way...emotionally, financially, physically, etc. i can't drive, write a check, or do taxes. i'd be terrified to set foot in any public place without being clutched tightly to my Daddy. i don't come close to having the emotional or practical skills required to function independently in the world. and yet...i hate the sighing/giggling/innane gossip and chatter thing too.....don't really see how some are correlating the two.

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/26/2007 10:15:29 AM

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I would have to agree with you daddysprop,

I do not think these women are immature or incapable. I think it is a 'tactic' (for lack of a better word, for either approval (amoung peers and dominants), acceptance or even a certain kind of power (though I think that kind of power and power play is pretty delusional).

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/27/2007 10:20:21 AM

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Okay puella, I finally made it over to check out where this all started for you I think. All I can say is OMG!!!! The only good thing about it is that it is online and I didn't have to stay long...and getting out was easy.

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/27/2007 3:18:26 PM

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Okay puella, I finally made it over to check out where this all started for you I think. All I can say is OMG!!!! The only good thing about it is that it is online and I didn't have to stay long...and getting out was easy.

erin lmao you are too cute!!

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/27/2007 3:32:28 PM

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Heya mistoferin,

Don't get me wrong, I have seen it everywhere, not in just one forum. It doesn't matter the where... what I find really troubling on many levels is the why of it all? Do women really feel they need to degenerate themselves to be appealing, or feminine or attractive, or non threatening enough to be accepted?

I don't know.... maybe the proof is in my first statement, and in the end, I am just a misogynist. I certainly have not ruled that possibility out.

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/27/2007 3:35:23 PM

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Puella,
my thoughts are that the person doing it receives attention. If it is positively rewarded, then they will continually do it as it is reinforcement for that behavior.

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/27/2007 3:40:23 PM

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Hello minnetar,

On a great level you have missed the actual thrust of my initial thoughts. It has very little to do with the type of attention (if any) the woman receives... that is an external factor, which means little to nothing to me.

What I find to be far weightier is why women (and particularly submissive women, in my observance) choose this for themselves. What compels a woman to down play intelligence, charecter, maturation of self, and the beauty of a definition? At what point to they think that this is what is pleasing and how they should behave. At what point to they sell themselves to behave that way for others who want to diminish them (for reasons, in my opinion which might well merit a separate post)?

To focus on the externals is almost as silly as to compromise yourself for them.

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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/27/2007 3:48:35 PM

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Hello minnetar,

On a great level you have missed the actual thrust of my initial thoughts. It has very little to do with the type of attention (if any) the woman receives... that is an external factor, which means little to nothing to me.

What I find to be far weightier is why women (and particularly submissive women, in my observance) choose this for themselves. What compels a woman to down play intelligence, charecter, maturation of self, and the beauty of a definition? At what point to they think that this is what is pleasing and how they should behave. At what point to they sell themselves to behave that way for others who want to diminish them (for reasons, in my opinion which might well merit a separate post)?

To focus on the externals is almost as silly as to compromise yourself for them.

i apologize for the misunderstanding. Maybe they don't feel they can adequately express their opinions. Another possibility is that they fear if they do that they would appear as a threat to Doms. i prefer to have someone appreciate my intelligence so it is something i have a more difficult time understanding.

again my apologies,
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RE: How not to make friends and alienate like peoples.... - 4/27/2007 3:49:53 PM

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Doll, you do not need to apologize to me, I am just any other random chick.

I think you may have something on a couple of things you just said, btw.

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