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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 7:18:50 PM   
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Life dynamic v. scene dynamic.  Think it through.


There isn't so much a question as to how this might be so much as in your particular case.  I'm asking you to elaborate as a matter of your personal stance, not as a matter of possibilities; I am aware of the latter.

Explain, as this tone is yours in selection, then, is it your contention that you are to be submissive in the bedroom, yet dominant elsewhere?

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 7:24:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		      Bottoming is not submission.  Not a complicated concept.  Or are you looking for wank material?

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 7:31:55 PM   
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Bottoming is not submission.  Not a complicated concept.  Or are you looking for wank material?


You're rather rude for one in such a questionable position, especially to another who is actively trying to offer you a chance to voice your ideas.

Your indecency aside, how would you describe "bottoming", if not as submission?

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 7:36:54 PM   
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You're rather rude for one in such a questionable position, especially to another who is actively trying to offer you a chance to voice your ideas.

Your indecency aside, how would you describe "bottoming", if not as submission?



      I'm rude?  The first reply in my most recent thread suggested I needed to be hit in the head with a baseball bat. 

     Submission v. bottoming.  Where is LA with a list of links?

     I should educate you because?............

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 7:43:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		CuriousLord, I'm with you on this one...

If my "dominant" wanted me to "top" him, I think it would severely undermine my faith in his dominance, as I would feel he had secret submissive tendencies.

I dated a guy like this actually...we were both very new to the lifestyle and exploring and all that...and one night he tells me he wants me to do him anally with my vibe...I did it..felt gross and dirty...and broke up with him just a few weeks later. It was just something that completely ruined my ability to sub to him sexually. It grossed me out in a major way and I couldn't take him "seriously" as a dominant any more.




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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 7:45:14 PM   
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The first reply in my most recent thread suggested I needed to be hit in the head with a baseball bat.



Maybe you just inspire the inner sadist in people...


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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 7:46:00 PM   
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     I'm rude?  The first reply in my most recent thread suggested I needed to be hit in the head with a baseball bat. 


Yes, rude.  Keep in mind people are different; individuals do not express the general view of the community, nor have those who may have been unduely rude to you represent the spirit of open-mindedness that is typically held in high regard in this community.

You strike many as strange.  You are outside of the typical notions, and aspects of your presentation resemble those of others who are found in dubious regard, often for false agendas and blantant dishonesty.

Now, I have shown you more decency than others have; do not charge me with their indecencies nor display your own attitude towards me.

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Submission v. bottoming.  Where is LA with a list of links?

I should educate you because?............


LA simply copies and pastes from the Search option.  You may use it, if you require reference, and I would, should I have such a concern.

The subject in question is your own views.  Should you be unable or unwilling to make your views known, so be it; I will not threaten you with the speculations others may take to your lack of voice nor offer incentive in merit for one speaking his own mind when the theme of the board already calls for such.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 8:10:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I can understand this.

I've had several subs before complain that their "Dom"s or "Master"s have asked them to top them before.  Most did away with their supposed Dom's after such encounters.  One made quite a story of how she's been through many such partners and expressed concern about future "Dom"s doing the same

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 8:38:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		You strike many as strange.  You are outside of the typical notions, and aspects of your presentation resemble those of others who are found in dubious regard, often for false agendas and blantant dishonesty.
 
     
     ROFL.  Amidst the dreck, I find good answers here to questions within questions.  My "notions" are very straightforward M/s.  My choice to be more open about what sort of things give me pleasure is less commen.

    If you want to know about things outside your experience start your own thread.  Mine tend to attract a snarky element.

    Like many smart people, you seem to assume everyone else is dumb.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 8:41:49 PM   
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Bottoming is not submission.  Not a complicated concept.  Or are you looking for wank material?


You're rather rude for one in such a questionable position, especially to another who is actively trying to offer you a chance to voice your ideas.

Your indecency aside, how would you describe "bottoming", if not as submission?


So far anyone who disagrees with you bluntly is rude. "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

I agree with him. Bottoming does not always submission and I agree that it's not a hard concept to understand. Now, like many things in life, you don't have to agree with it just because you understand it and having someone understand a concept doesn't mean they will agree with you. Exactly what are you looking for? Examples?

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 5/6/2007 8:43:27 PM >

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 8:45:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		imo most of them are probably hoping that you are growing weary in your search for a Dominant, and are willing to "explore your Top side" in the meantime.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 8:59:34 PM   
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The first reply in my most recent thread suggested I needed to be hit in the head with a baseball bat.



Maybe you just inspire the inner sadist in people...




         See?  You do have it in you to top.  You only need the right guiding hand to bring it out. 


    Straight answer to your op.  The profile comes across as having a Domme inside.  It is about what you want.  You're Hot and the HNG type subs dream of having you train them the way you would a horse.

     $.02:  maybe a profile rewrite would cut the volume?

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:06:39 PM   
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Bottoming is not submission.  Not a complicated concept.  Or are you looking for wank material?


You're rather rude for one in such a questionable position, especially to another who is actively trying to offer you a chance to voice your ideas.

Your indecency aside, how would you describe "bottoming", if not as submission?


So far anyone who disagrees with you bluntly is rude. "I do not think that word means what you think it means."


No, accusing another of asking a question as "looking for wank material" is bluntly rude.  ..I hope this was obvious.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:13:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, accusing another of asking a question as "looking for wank material" is bluntly rude.  ..I hope this was obvious.

  I see.  But since you asked for details about my bedroom habits in polite terms I should comply?  Get over yourself.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:14:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KurtKaboom
The first reply in my most recent thread suggested I needed to be hit in the head with a baseball bat.



Maybe you just inspire the inner sadist in people...




       See?  You do have it in you to top.  You only need the right guiding hand to bring it out. 


  Straight answer to your op.  The profile comes across as having a Domme inside.  It is about what you want.  You're Hot and the HNG type subs dream of having you train them the way you would a horse.

   $.02:  maybe a profile rewrite would cut the volume?


Actually I have gotten at least 15 emails from people saying it is one of the best sub profiles they've ever read (and I've had the version of the profile up for only about 3 weeks or so)...and since I've rewritten it the number of dom wannabes writing me has decreased and I've seen an increase in more mature emails from what seem to be genuine dominant men.

I don't think there's a darn thing about my profile that indicates that I'm dominant in my relationships.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:20:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I get them too...it's just one part of having a personal profile up.
 
As for people accusing you of topping from the bottom, I would have to disagree. You can't top from the bottom when there is no relationship, even a casual one. You're merely self aware of what works for you and what doesn't. It's the same with everyone else...some things work for some people and don't work for others.
 
Being a service top is a form of submission, if you are currently with a Dominant. Being single kind of blows that out of the water. It wouldn't really be submission if you're topping someone who is not ordering you to top. I keep trying to make that sound more clear, but that's about as clear as I can make it.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:21:53 PM   
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No, accusing another of asking a question as "looking for wank material" is bluntly rude.  ..I hope this was obvious.


All right: I'm going to be blunt and you'll probably find it rude but here goes.

We are on the internet. There are more people trolling these forums for wank material then even I care to think about. It's a pretty common thing. I have no idea of knowing if you are horny kid in his mother's basement hoping for something that will give him wank fodder, just like you have no idea if I really am who I say I am. And again, exactly what are you looking for? The concept is that bottoming does not always equal submission. Do you want examples of specific times or circumstances?

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:22:04 PM   
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No, accusing another of asking a question as "looking for wank material" is bluntly rude.  ..I hope this was obvious.

I see.  But since you asked for details about my bedroom habits in polite terms I should comply?  Get over yourself.


I'm afraid we have differing views on the range of appropriate use of this forum if you find inquaries as to one's views on applications of D/s to be rude.

Until now, I've treated you with respect and decency, as I believe everyone is entitled to having their voices heard.  However, I suppose I've offered it long enough; you have not adhered to the theme of free exchange nor common decency.  As such, these will not be extended to you.

More bluntly:  where's that damn baseball bat when you need it?

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:22:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think there's a darn thing about my profile that indicates that I'm dominant in my relationships.
 
  <snort>  Yes Maam.  It has been a while since I perved you last Maam.  If a rewrite has already cut the volume, I'm late being right.

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RE: Male sub seeking fem sub? WTF? - 5/6/2007 9:32:05 PM   
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No, accusing another of asking a question as "looking for wank material" is bluntly rude.  ..I hope this was obvious.


All right: I'm going to be blunt and you'll probably find it rude but here goes.

We are on the internet. There are more people trolling these forums for wank material then even I care to think about. It's a pretty common thing. I have no idea of knowing if you are horny kid in his mother's basement hoping for something that will give him wank fodder, just like you have no idea if I really am who I say I am. And again, exactly what are you looking for? The concept is that bottoming does not always equal submission. Do you want examples of specific times or circumstances?


I'm afraid I find little more than argument and drama from you.  One of the common aspects of your posts is a disregard for the nature in which previous conversations have been held.

For instance, in the post to him, I asked him what the difference between "submissive" and "bottom" was, for him.  I did not ask him to describe anything sexual outside of the general stance.  Nothing that isn't extremely common on these forums.

He was just being rude- as he admitted to- in his response.  Something everyone here but you acknowledges.  Again, including him.

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To answer your post, regardless of my feeling that it was meant more in the argumentative spirit than anything else.. I'm asking for his general take on it.  It's not a complicated question, but one to look for his own views and understanding.  I believe this would have been rather obvious to a more honest observer.

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