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MistressConcetta -> Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 12:55:16 AM)

How important is it for male slaves and subs to serve an attractive or beautiful Mistress such as Myself, rather than paying some old lady that claims to be young, or maybe a Domme in her "thirties" (usually closer to 40). Men are visual creatures, so tell us boys, would you rather have a 20 something gorgeous Goddess to worhship, and older woman? Or does it matter. What are your thoughts?[&o][&o]


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GoddessMarissa -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 1:24:12 AM)

I am not a sub male , but I do believe it really dosn't matter how old the mistress or Domme is. What really matters is the maturity level of the woman. That is what subs really look for in my opinon. If a woman is fifty years old or eighteen years old and doesn't know how to dominate her slave/sub what good would it be. Now if she truly enjoys what she does and it is a part of her true nature then she will draw all types, because they see the difference. A pretty face means nothing if you dont have a mind to go with it. I f you love what you do and are passionate about it other people will see this and want you because it is you. I dont believe age or being phsically atractive have anything to do with a man wanting a dominant woman, that is my opinon.



saddorie -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 3:35:20 AM)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It is not age related. It is not physically related. Age is not a factor in the beauty of a person.

You may think every male sub wants some young Mistress instead of some old, *shudder* thirty something Mistress, but I am willing to bet that some do not find 30 or even 40 old, lol. Nor do all male slaves/subs want to submit to online Dommes looking for financial slavery where they are threatened with you ruining their credit and exposing them to their families and vanilla life with financial blackmail.



MizSuz -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 4:36:25 AM)

Concetta:

I am 41. I am a grandmother. I am an independent woman who needs no one else to earn my keep. I have more than 20 years experience (which would mean that I've been playing about as long as you've been alive).

I bring a lot to the table, the LEAST of which is my looks (which aren't bad for an old hag). Out of curiosity, what would you bring to the table if the submissive were blind? How do your looks work in your favor when the blindfold is in use?



MistressDREAD -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 5:05:25 AM)

Im 45
Mother of 8 Grown Children your age
a Granmother of 1
International Woman
BBBW
Independant
over 30 years in BDSM, Poly,Gor
Sadist
and I have never not Owned multiple
male slaves whom totally adore Me either
in My Youth or now when I am in My absolute
prime of Life!
~sticks out My tongue~ na ne na ne poo poo!
~smiles~

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MistressDREAD -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 5:11:52 AM)


oooooh yes
for My Online
slaves whom
would not get
to see Me in
person My
online eye
candy personna
pic........~kiss~
giggles...........

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January -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 6:49:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressConcetta

How important is it for male slaves and subs to serve an attractive or beautiful Mistress such as Myself, rather than paying some old lady that claims to be young, or maybe a Domme in her "thirties" (usually closer to 40). Men are visual creatures, so tell us boys, would you rather have a 20 something gorgeous Goddess to worhship, and older woman? Or does it matter. What are your thoughts?



I'd have to say you are, indeed, incredibly, astonishingly, amazingly...

young



LadyDREADSreed -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 9:34:39 AM)

good morning Mistress Concetta and collarme.com
reeds Mistress has allowed this boy to make a comment on this question.
please take no offence on reeds words Mistress Concetta as this is only how a lowly boy feels when he looks at Your picture. You Mistress Concetta are a Beautiful Woman as most all Woman are in Their Youth but when reed looks at Your face he see's a Child and cannot fathom serving anyone whom would remind reed of his own daughters. When reed looks at his Mistress he does not see a Old Lady but a Mature Beautiful Dominant Goddess and this is the kind of Mistress that visually makes reeds heart and mind soar. ( not to mention a few other things. blushing.)
ThankYou Mistress Concetta for letting this boy make comment on Your question and if reeds words have offended any please let reeds Owner know for corrective measures.
posted with this boys Mistress in mind and Owners permission



yeehaw -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 4:09:23 PM)

I'm a male sub, been playing two decades now. (Real life only, no online, phone, etc)

MizSuz's question is poignant:

quote:

How do your looks work in your favor when the blindfold is in use?


The beauty, and I mean the Great Beauty a guy like me just absolutely swoons over is not in any woman's looks, it's in her expression, in her mind, in the spark about herself that is special, and in some cases, spectacular.

I see that spectacular spark in MistressDread's stunning expression in her nude photo above. I see that Great Beauty in MizSuz's thinking. A blindfold would in fact enhance the clarity of seeing what I'm talking about here.

A physically beautiful woman may be only that, just physically beautiful, and that is not enough if you ask me. Women who rely only on outer looks often fail terribly in creating this inner beauty I'm talking about.

That rarely found inner beauty that a man like me can never get out of his mind, that's what I can see when the blindfold is on and all the wonderful kink is going on.

That moves me. See that just once....and a man's heart no longer even sees skin beauty. Neither does my cock, to be completely honest.



Sinergy -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 4:36:24 PM)

Hello,

I am not a sub/slave, nor do I do online, but I did want to respond to this question if I may.

Physical beauty is so transitory, and no matter how stunning a person's physical looks are, a personality which is ugly or not developed can spoil everything in a heartbeat.

Part of it for me is also expressed in my Zen background. A flawless china tea set can be lovely to behold. But if I am using it to have tea with friends and one drops a cup and chips it, I no longer have a flawlessly beautiful tea set. Some would say this was a tragic event. On the other hand, every time I see that chip I will remember the lovely time I spent with my friends sipping tea. These memories are worth far more to me than a flawless tea set.

People change over time, some become more beautiful, both in physical appearance and personality, some dont.

I made a comment in another thread about unwrapping a christmas present which is appropriate here. When I receive a present, what I am interested in and desire is what is inside. I am far less interested in how it is wrapped.

As usual, this is just me and I could be wrong, but there you have it.

Sinergy



vocuervo -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 8:42:54 PM)

Hello Madam, I am vocuervo, a peruvian hetero male, that enjoys shut the mouths of people who tries to abuse or dominate me or someone else, because of their money or power, and allways I do it.
But I want to be obligated by a schoolgirl, to kneel at her feets, and lick her dirty knees socks feets like a miserable slave, and have to dress like a maid or a student.T hats why a want to be a Cyber slave, and enjoy that my mistress make me feel like a real one. I want to have to work or serve her the way she order me, and that she humillate me and offend me like her pet.I will really obey her and do what ever she order to do it myself. And I will be really have fun acting like her slave.

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Estring -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 9:32:45 PM)

Thanks for sticking to the subject vocuervo.
I am not a sub, but I am male. To me looks do matter to a certain extent, but good looks can be ruined by a crappy personality. And conversely, average looks can radiate with a great personality. Concetta, your looks aren't all that, that you can forget about the personality part. You come off like a snotty little girl.



inyouagain -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/28/2004 11:47:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressConcetta
How important is it for male slaves and subs to serve an attractive or beautiful Mistress such as Myself, rather than paying some old lady that claims to be young, or maybe a Domme in her "thirties" (usually closer to 40).

Their appears to be an "i" missing from your nick MistressConceitta?

Based SOLELY on your comments, and your flair for advertising "one's self", I honestly have to say you've totally missed the lifestyle boat. I don't know who's boat you are one, as it seems to totally glorify yourself as an invaluable commodity to the sub/slave world. Your "beauty" is relative to the viewer, and that's where your self-advocacy and exteme importance ends... at the edges of your salacious and presumptive mind. It is more than obvious you are one of those eager to exploit the lifestyle to fatten your purse, and comparing beauty quote: "such as Myself" unquote is extremely conceited and self-absorbed... and that usually means player/wannabe. I've seen absolutely nothing in ANY of your self-absorbed troll-like posts here that even hints of anything lifestyle related... other than financial domination, or YOUR NEED for it.

This makes you appear to be drastic, and desperate enough to "fish" often. I asked before when you spammed the General BDSM forum with your intro/spam/troll post what it had to do with General BDSM, and of course received no answer/reply (other than you offering me a Midol). You are not geared up or equipped to defend your posts/actions, but merely to spam in hopes of furthering your cause to solicit "paying" subs/slaves who will relish in your self-promoted beauty and forsake "experienced Dommes" for your purported beauty. That appears to be your game, and powerplay.

Selling recorded messages on some website does not make you a Mistress, and telling the world you are a better Mistress by virtue of your perceived beauty is simply dumbness personified. Your feeble attempts to cash in by pumping your appearance is indicative of your much less than thorough knowledge of this lifestyle... portrays you as "on the outside looking in", and your attempts to overcome the experience and knowledge of other "Old Lady" Mistresses with your fresh face is most hilarious at best.

Miss Conceitta you have a lot to learn about this lifestyle, and one of the first things to learn is how your recorded voice is a boon to "visual" males?

You've missed the boat hon, and make yourself look bad by trying to convince others you are on the right boat. Your money ship hasn't come in obviously, else you would not grace us with your self-absorbed presence and your periodic "recruiting campaigns".

A beautiful thing about youth is it's unlimited naivity and self-absorbed ignorance... but as you will acertain eventually, this lifestyle is not simply about advertising and self-promotion... you are on the wrong boat sweetface, and the fare is not simply appearances. That boat ride is in the kiddie section of the amusement park, with the merry-go-round and miniature train ride.

Please stop spamming yourself here, and use your visits here to further your lifestyle knowledge. One day that gained knowledge will be an asset to your wrinkled up old face.

What is the value/worth of a self-professed beautiful actress who knows little to nothing about acting?

IMHO, a cute curtsey, a smile or dimple simply are not enough to qualify a sweetfaced little girl as a Mistress.

Inyouagain



rain -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (5/29/2004 6:26:07 AM)

inyouagain,

Don't be shy, tell us how you REALLY feel! hehehe

i agree with the above statements, & i just noticed that in your pic, you're holding a phone...so, if you dominate by telephone: does that mean your a telemarketer for a collection agency?

hmmm, makes me wonder

~rain~



ShadeDiva -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (6/1/2004 11:08:35 PM)

Well my opinion of her is quite well known, lol.

I personally find it amazing that someone that vaunts her beauty over and over and over SO much, on every board and mailing list and yahoo group she can manage to retain a membership on, and which is really the ONLY thing her ads seem to revolve around, hasn't had any new pictures outside of the ones that look like they were taken in the seventies in well over a year now.

One would imagine that anyone so focused on their looks would be taking LOADS of new pictures to visually impact those "visual males" - and yetttttttt, they haven't changed at all. Perhaps she isn't so young anymore and those are the limit of the pics she has taken at 20 something and is currently like 40 herself now?

Just things that makes one wonder.

But hey, I *really* don't like the person ... so perhaps that has a lot to do with it. LOL!

~ShadeDiva



yeehaw -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (6/3/2004 8:53:34 AM)

I am an idiot.

But I am a nice idiot. [:)]

I took the original ad...which I now realize that's what it is, at face value (i.e. a serious question), which it turns out is actually of zero value.

Would I prefer a Twinkie-Dommette who's stuck (up) on looks and lacks sophistication, experience, depth, warmth and understanding, or would I prefer a Great Domme who has experience, has even read books (*gasp*) and knows every kink in the book, and how to deliver a legendary session...and just maybe....friendship so the next time is even better?

I am staggered at how absolutely blind it is to think looks make Domination rock.

Every single thing about D/s and BDSM I know from over 20 years of devoted explorative play and lifestyle immersion, has been completely ignored with one simple blazingly idiotic shrill Barbie-doll psuedo-question "do you think I am pretty?" *blink *blink *blink*

Go back to Square One. Obtain SINCERITY.

Untill that is done, I would pay you a quarter to call a cab home to your trailer. That's about it.



Thanatosian -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (6/3/2004 12:51:22 PM)

concetta - my question to you, in light of your holding a phone in your posted pic here, is as follows:

Just what the hell do looks matter when you are on the phone????? If you are doing phone sessions ( and I am making the presumption that you are, again based on your posted pic ), then, unless you are using a camera phone, the submissive on the other end of the line will have no clue what you look like. Is it not more likely that he will be using his imagination to conjure up his vision of 'the perfect domme' rather than wondering what you yourself really look like?? Isn't it going to be more important what you sound like??? Face it, if you have the husky voice of a sultry phone sex siren, you could look like the back end of a baboon for all it matters to the person on the other end of the phone line. The same reasoning applies to online, unless you are running a webcam. And, as a side note, as has been pointed out in another thread here on the boards, how much real life experience can a '20 something'self proclaimed 'georgeuos goddess' have? other than maybe acting like a spoiled princess[;)] I will be the first to admit that, while I was active in the lifestyle in my early 20's, I did NOT have much experience and as such, was not as effective a Dom as I am today - experience can only come with time. Let me pose a hypothetical situation for you - which would you rather have preparing your meal? a 30 or 40 somthing year old chef who has been practising the culinary arts for some time, or a 20 something year old chef just out of cooking school?? which do you think would be able to prepare the better meal???? or another - who would you rather have giving you a massage? an older experienced masseur/masseuse or someone just out of massage school? or cutting your hair?? or chauffering you around? et cetera et cetera ad infinitum ad nauseum

so maybe you shouldnt be so quick to 'knock' the older, more experienced dommes out there, as they can probably give a much better quality session than you - with 3/4 of their imagination tied behind their back

looks are not everythig - and can often be deceiving

of course this is all just preaching to the choir, as there is no indication you check back to see the responses to your trollish spamming ad - oops I mean question



LadyWomanji -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (6/8/2004 10:54:09 PM)

How many of you really think she's reading these posts? She just wrote an ad, plain and simple. The matter wasn't likely up for discussion.


---> Lady Womanji



Estring -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (6/9/2004 12:34:09 AM)

Trust me, she reads them. [:D]



ProDomme -> RE: Servitude-A question for online subs/slaves (6/9/2004 12:52:20 PM)

I recieve far too many emails from men in their early 20's to count! I get them from all ages, but the younger set .. WOW.

I guess there is something to be said for age, most of the younger men that contact me refer to the 20 somethings as "boring in bed", "think they know everything", "think thier looks make up for how horrible they are in bed". With age comes wisdom, and that holds true to every aspect in life. So while some may like to look at you , most would prefer to R/T with a real woman, one of intelligence that has learned the little tricks to drive a man insane. One that does not care if her hair ends up in knots over an extremely HOT session. One that is not high maint. and a hardcore self important pig.

Keep spamming the board though, we see you for what you are really worth. It will get old soon, and out the door of a REAL community you will go. Stick with keen, it probably serves you best. Have you seen the new spambots for yahoo chat, there is something that might work for you also.


Sincerely,

An older 30 something closer to 40 (oh shudder..lol) wiser, real Domme



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