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MDJour -> RE: Tributes (5/3/2007 6:58:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

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ORIGINAL: DianeB269

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ORIGINAL: Copulo

I think a lot of women become pro because they can and it’s a seriously quick way of earning some serious money. You can earn the same sort of money as a lawyer if your good and have a good location for a dungeon. Who wants to be earning £9 an hour when you can be earning anything between £150 to £500 an hour!!!

I have seen so many women that first come on the scene as subs and then start to play around with a bit of switching. The next thing you know they have some posh dungeon set up in the Barbican, working a 20 hour week and are very comfortably off


Maria



This is why I went pro years ago.....It's very easy money and you don't really work very
hard cuz, there is a endless supply of clients. I bought 2 houses in 12 years working as
a pro.

Diane

PS; I retired 5 years ago.


Fabulous Diane [;)] x



I have enjoyed 6 years as a Pro. I have a great set up and everyone goes home guilt free and happy. To me the term tribute should only apply in the professional arena.
Mistress V.



DianeB269 -> RE: Tributes (5/3/2007 7:04:45 PM)




I have enjoyed 6 years as a Pro. I have a great set up and everyone goes home guilt free and happy. To me the term tribute should only apply in the professional arena.
Mistress V.
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Mistress V

I totally agree with you.


Diane



Najakcharmer -> RE: Tributes (5/3/2007 7:15:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VeryMercurial
Wonderful post Najakcharmer.
I am not a Professional Domina but with all the sleazy male jerks around,
I can totally understand asking and wanting something tangible for your time,
effort and energy.


Thank you.  But I don't actually want tangible tributes myself.  What I ask for in my profile is just that the sub take some time to read through it and get to know me a bit as a person, and think about what I would actually enjoy talking about, and approach me on that basis rather than with his dick waving. 

I don't get that 99.9% of the time even though it's such a simple thing to ask - to be treated like a real person in a friendly, considerate, courteous and intelligent manner.  So I understand very clearly why other ladies ask for material tribute up front.  I don't.  I just ignore and block men who demonstrate in their initial emails that they have no interest in any other kind of relationship but a shallow one-way transaction in which they are giving nothing and demanding my time and energy.  That would be the majority of the emails I get here. 

Basically there are only two rational responses to a rude, blatant "Gimme gimme" demand that offers nothing except the demand itself.  One is "No, go away."  The other is "Okay, but you have to give to me first."   The "No, go away" response works better for me, but I understand completely why some ladies respond the other way.



MzMia -> RE: Tributes (5/3/2007 8:30:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

I have years of experience actually living the lifestyle. Not a weekend warrior that barks out orders. When I enter into a D/s relationship it’s a journey and almost always I am the teacher. Maybe I don’t get paid by the hour as I did when I was a professional dominatrix but I do expect something in exchange. Damn right I do.
If I had a nickel for every man that emailed me claiming to be a real slave ready to serve me at any capacity I see fit then I’d honestly be a very wealthy woman. Without kidding I get at least 30 emails a day combined with my sites, here and various other sites. Some I just hit the delete button right away. Others I give them the URL to Sex Slave Academy and tell them to join. They can watch my videos; listen to audios, read my journals, etc. If he can’t support my work and spend at least $29.00 to show some level of sincerity then why the hell should I waste my time?


You guys can talk a lot of shit because you’re not on this end of things. I can invest weeks of time and energy into a male that SAYS he’s sincere just to have him disappear within 3 weeks. This isn’t some of the time but 9 times out of 10. Those are very real statistics. You whine and complain about your needs and how no one understands you yet at the drop of a hat you’re swimming new waters and unable to make any true commitment.


Here’s how I see it…


If you honestly feel that you have something truly valuable to give then why not take the risk and put it out there? If you feel that you are the perfect slave, worthy of her attention then put it all out there and make the investment. The reality is that you’re not sure you’ll measure up so why buy her things or give her money? That’s the bottom line of it all. So rather then step up the plate and show you’ll truly do ANYTHING to please her you whine and complain because she asks you to prove it. All bullshit and I see it each and every day. I feel sorry for all the truly wonderful dominant women out there trying to find mates. They are slim pickings that’s for damn sure.


So rather then contribute to yet another LONG thread about tribute decide who you are…


1. You are a guy that expects a woman to teach and train you for the sheer fact that you claim to be submissive.


2. You can barely take care of yourself much less a Queen.


3. You’re a stupid male that has been manipulated before and easily used by women because you’re too stupid to research and find the RIGHT women or you’re lead by your dick when you see a tight ass.


4. You realize that anything worthwhile in your life required time and commitment. You pay your dues in more then one way. You are truly willing to do anything for your dream.


I personally don’t waste my time on anyone who isn’t a 4 and trust me ladies they exist.  


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I thought this was the usual bitchin about tributes thread, but I stumbled on this well written
post by DiannaVesta!
Dianna I hope you dont mind my saving this along with my favorite bdsm posts.
You are dead on here.  I am not a Professional Domina, but damn if I am into casual/no
relationship or committment play. 
Your post touched on why SO MANY of the Dominant women on CM and in general,
have NO submissive.
This should be a must read for male submissives.
Thank you!



undergroundsea -> RE: Tributes (5/3/2007 10:08:34 PM)

At a play party:

SubA: Will you walk on me?
DommeA: <indignant> excuse me?
SubA:. Erm. I asked if you would talk on me? But I got my words mixed up. I meant would you talk to me?
DommeA: Oh, I think I misheard you. Sure, I appreciate it when subs like to engage in conversation. What do you want to talk about?
SubA: Oh. I don't know. What size shoe do you wear?
DommeA: What kind of question is that when you are starting a conversation?
SubA: ....
DommeA: Have you ever dated a vanilla woman?
SubA: Yes
DommeA: Did you ever start to get to know them by asking what size shoe they wear?
SubA: No. There. I ask them what size bra they wear.
DommeA: .....
SubA: Do you like reinforced stockings?
DommeA: Excuse me, I need to go to the restroom <fading sounds of heels clicking>
SubA: <20 minutes later> Man, she must have some bladder. Wait! I wonder if she went to like go find a thermos for me! Oh man! Score!

On AOL messenger:

SubB: I hope I am not disturbing you. May I have a moment of your time?
DommeB: Yes, you pathetic pig you may. But it will cost you $50.
SubB: ....
DommeB: Well, do you have the money or not loser?
SubB: I am at a loss for what to say
DommeB: You don't have to know what to say, scum. I'll tell you what to say. Say, Yes Mistress, may this lowly peace of shit instead give you $100?
SubB: I am sorry to have disturbed you.
DommeB: Wait. What? Aren't you supposed to beg me for a freebie or something?
SubB: A freebie? May I ask you something? Have you ever dated a vanilla man?
DommeB: Of course I have. Have you seen my photos and how hot I am?
SubB: Whenever a vanilla man has inititated conversation, have you asked him for money?
DommeB: No, of course not. But I won't let him have any until he takes me to a nice dinner and then a nice show.
SubB:....
SubB: Well how about the last vanilla guy you dated. What was he like?
DommeB: Oh he was a hottie! But I had to dump him because his ass was nicer than mine and there is no way I'm dating a guy like whose ass looks better than mine.
SubB: Did you have sex?
DommeB: I wore out his bed. I'd have his neighbors banging on the wall. It was hot!
SubB: Did you like the sex?
DommeB: Didn't I just tell you?
SubB: Did he have to do the dinner and a nice show?
DommeB: Well, for him I went for just the dinner
SubB: Why?
DommeB: Because he had a nice ass!
SubB: No I mean why did you have to have the dinner?
DommeB: Because. That's how it is. Otherwise, I'll be too easy. And I'm too fine a chick to be easy. How much he spends is how much he likes me and how fine I am. A few months ago I got a bad perm and I didn't look as hot as I do now. So then I was settling for TexMex dinners instead of Lobster.
SubB: Did you ask him to pay you $50 when he first spoke to you?
DommeB: No silly. That would be so weird.
SubB: Why is it different with subs?
DommeB: Because. They have to pay somehow. They never do what I want. They only care about what they want. And if they want me to do what they want then they have to pay.
SubB: So for them to get what they want, they have to pay?
DommeB: Damn right they do.
SubB: Have you ever considered paying them to do what you want?
DommeB: What?!
SubB: Yeah. They can pay you so you can do what they want. And then you can pay them so they can do what you want. And then eventually, perhaps you will see that the exchange of money is redundant and that they can do what you want, and you can do what they want. Or better yet, you can be selective to find someone so that what you want and what they want are one and the same thing!
DommeB: What?! Are you one of them socialists?
SubB: Excuse me?
DommeB: Socialist! You are a socialist!
<SubB has logged out>
DommeB: Damn Communist! Come back! Give me my $50!

Cheers,

Sea



MzMia -> RE: Tributes (5/3/2007 10:15:28 PM)

lol too funny
how about this
 
typical sub male on CM--Hello Mistress I am a dedicated submissive and I would love to get
to know you and serve you.  I was born to submit and serve!
 
typical Mistress on CM- Oh really, what is your definition of "service"?

typical sub male on CM- Oh I have a list of what I enjoy: Cbt, forced bi activities,
bondage, foot worship and dog training, and I will give you a foot massage!

typical Mistress on CM- Is that your idea of being a submissive and serving me?

typical sub male on CM- yes I will submit to you as long as you DO and give ME what I want!
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Copulo -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 12:54:09 AM)

Hi Jevousadore

I’m really glad that you, a fem sub bothered to write to this thread because I think the points you made are very valid ones.
When a fem sub is with a male Dominant it is highly unusual for him to ask her to pay for anything, let alone make a tribute. A female sub tends to be treated more like a princess regarding money. The Dom often likes to splash out on a new outfit and do a lot of wine and dining with him picking up the tab, where as a male sub is so often expected to splash out. I have often wondered about this.

I also agree about snide comments when starting a thread.
Im not new here but come and go. I met my partner on here 4 years ago and was recently on here as MariaB but changed my profile so that my partner could be included in what we post.
If someone does not want to read a post because its already been done to death then simple, don’t read it, but for goodness sake stop replying with sarcastic retorts. We should be encouraging new blood and not deterring them.



Copulo -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 1:06:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

At a play party:


Sea


Pmsl... that was good, really good

It reminds me of those Mistresses that get 'Dominatrix  Toxaemia'. One has to be very careful in not starting to believe ones own hype.
Because Im in the clubs a lot, I get hounded by submissive men who want to tell me Im beautiful. Of course Im not beautiful, Im a 42 year old woman that’s had two children and although the compliments are nice, lets be realistic here!!
These subs are just doing the rounds and talking the talk. If they saw half these women looking at them in Costa Coffee on a Monday morning, they would probably say ‘what you looking at me for you fat ugly bitch’!



Copulo -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 1:29:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

Pro Domme's that are in it just for the £ $, well their careers will be short lived I am sure.

submissive's are most definatley not stupid, they can tell when a Domme Mistress has the flair and enthusiasm, a genuine love for her work. I do emensley, and I wish to indulge in this wonderful lifestyle for many decades to come!

subs that have a problem with tribute, are just sucking on sour grapes, in My Dominant opinion.

[:D] 


It depends how good an actress they are. I know some top Mistresses that are totally sub behind the scene and who are incredibly good actresses and earn huge amounts of money. A sub often makes a good Mistress because she knows the mindset.
I know Mistresses that have never desired to submit and are all out dominants that cant get the clients for love nor money.
Any Mistress weather they are genuinely dominant or not, have to have a certain amount of good actress skills because they are not going to get off on every client that walks through their door. You only have to look at how choosy they are when picking a non paying sub.
When I look for submission, I look for a certain type that fits into my world of dominance. I would never for example take on a school boy type who wanted to be caned and stood in the corner. That’s not my thing, it does nothing for me but when I was pro Mistressing this sort of client was probably the most common and easiest to deal with. Could I act… geez could I ever!




GuidingLite -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 7:01:12 AM)

(first Im not talking about and including peoples in or seeking commited relationship....)  Big whoopa the male doesnt ask you for tribute.  of course hes not.   thats aint his motivation.  his motivation is sex.   if you didnt  have sex with him or get into something sexually related  with him, he just might ask you to compensate him for his time with money too!!!   you simply cant compare the two.  professional female tops are different from dominant women lifestylers and professional female tops are differemt from male doms.  All 3 have different motivations.  but basically the male doms want sex or oral sex or else why should they bother and the female pro top wants money or else why should she bother.  again im not talking about the female dominas who want commited relationships them girls dont ask for the money.  and btw, what pros do is sexual not sex. 



Copulo -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 8:11:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GuidingLite

(first Im not talking about and including peoples in or seeking commited relationship....)  Big whoopa the male doesnt ask you for tribute.  of course hes not.   thats aint his motivation.  his motivation is sex.   if you didnt  have sex with him or get into something sexually related  with him, he just might ask you to compensate him for his time with money too!!!   you simply cant compare the two.  professional female tops are different from dominant women lifestylers and professional female tops are differemt from male doms.  All 3 have different motivations.  but basically the male doms want sex or oral sex or else why should they bother and the female pro top wants money or else why should she bother.  again im not talking about the female dominas who want commited relationships them girls dont ask for the money.  and btw, what pros do is sexual not sex. 


Ha! Now I never thought of that (excuse me Im blonde), the bit about the male Doms wanting sex! Some times Im too innocent for my own good!

Im glad you mentioned the bit about ‘sexual but not sex’ because I think a lot of people wonder about this and you put them right.
I know that some dominants do have sex. In the UK they tend to call themselves Dominatrix but the majority of Mistresses sexually tease but on a ‘don’t touch me’ basis.
Interestingly the ‘sexual Dominatrix’ don’t earn nearly as much as the ‘don’t touch me Mistress.



Calandra -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 8:47:48 AM)

In five years of Pro Domming, I had sex with a client once and that was after he was a client and we'd decided to go private...
 
I have spanked men, done wicked things to their cock and balls, flogged them, mummified them, enemized them, and sissified them. I've made them sniff the baseboards as My "puppy" and made them "go on the newspaper", and I've done needle play, fire play, wax play and role play...
 
A woman's gynecologist has more sexual contact than I've had with most of My boys.
 
All along, I've maintained a dungeon with toys, tools, alcohol and sanitizer, condoms (for the dildoes and butt plugs, perverts) linen strips and saran wrap, KY, enema solutions, newspaper, sterile needles, cotton balls, fire extinguishers, paraffin, costuming, makeup, wigs, and props.
 
I've made it My business to consult with people in the medical fields about safety procedures, AND I took a risk everytime I accepted a client that I might be busted and accused of doing something I was INNOCENT of simply because people have their provincial heads up their victorian asses.
 
A Dominant who accepts a fee (not speaking of prostitutes who bastardize the lifestyle) is taking a huge risk. But yanno what? When I have a client on his knees, revelling in the two hours he's with Me and able to share this personal side of himself that no one else sees? I am happy.
 
A social worker, doctor, or lawyer may truly derive enjoyment and satisfaction from his work, but no one bitches because he charges for his services. It's apparently okay to charge $300 for 20 minutes to type up a form letter as an attorney, but not okay to charge $300 for two hours of hard work, emotional drain, and legal risk???? Not to mention YEARS of training and maintaining a multi faceted dungeon where I can do a medical scene one time and a full out sissy pageant the next...
 
God I get tired of the bullshit about tribute. In a private connection I ask for a letter to show some real life investment - in a professional setting I asked for what I deserved because I am that fucking good. (and I got My clients from other places besides CM)
There are Domme registries for that sort of thing.... 



Copulo -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 9:31:14 AM)

Hi Calandra

I know what your talking about. People don’t see your overheads. Investing in a dungeon can be a serious amount of money. To rent a few rooms in a prime location in London you are talking five figure sums per year.
Then there’s the training. I spent my first six months as a dungeon assistant and I lived on tips. There were times when I hardly could afford my train ride home!
What goes into making a Mistress, especially one that specializes is a serious amount of money.
When I worked I constantly upgraded my tools and equipment. Advertising alone costs a lot of money. You have a website to run and maintain, a secretary to pay and accountancy bills (yes I paid my taxes)
At the end of the day it’s a business but it doesn’t just fall into the palm of your hand with no work involved and its certainly going to set you back a bit before you start to see a profit.



MistressRouge -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 5:03:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

The word tribute is used broadly in this discussion. When I say tribute I mean money or a gift demanded to initiate or sustain contact in a non-professional relationship. My focus here is on women who claim they are seeking a personal relationship and demand tribute for a show of sincerity to weed out insincere men.

I wager there are many women who seek tribute who already have or during the course of time find a partner who does provide what they seek. I wager there are gay women who otherwise have no interest to play with men who get in on tribute. I am not compelled by the explanation that tribute is caused by men who want to be done. In my opinion, saying so is shifting responsibility onto men for a decision for which one is seeking justification internally and externally. There are men who want sexual gratification across all orientations. Why cannot one who claims to seek tribute because it is necessary pass the men who are seeking sexual gratification in favor of those who are sincere, as women do across other orientations? Why not instead choose a man with whom one enjoys BDSM play?

In my opinion tribute is not charged because it must be but because it can be.

I do not participate in relationships that require a material exchange because it is inconsistent with my social objectives and sense of self. I am interested to engage with someone because of mutual interest. And I feel I can give enough with what I am as a person to expect interest in me. This approach has worked reasonably well for me.

I pass on a profile from a person seeking tribute because I am uninterested to remain wondering whether it is a scam or not. I pass on such a profile because I feel the person seeking tribute has too different a perspective on how our interaction or relationship should occur. And I pass because I know I am able to find other options. So a claim that tribute is to weed out insincere men is somewhat ironical because it will send away men who feel as I do who are out to give in return.

Cheers,

Sea


I am very stringent with the submissive's I accept to indulge in My Mistress attentions, the money and tribute is the last in My decision to accept a potential submissive for session.

I most certainly do not, see pounds signs, and I care to differ, tribute subs are more genuine then most of the freebie subs that mail and pester Me on such sites.

The freeloadering sub " non tribute subs" that contact  ask for constant attention, the world on a plate, laying down their ideals and rules, judgemental attitudes etc.

My life and time is precious to Me, I do not suffer fools, and the fools outhere insist on My precious time for their selfish wants, are instantly deleted at the push of My crimson painted talon lol.

I respect your opinion regarding tribute, and I am a Pro Domme, a world away from what you seek or have.



MistressRouge -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 5:05:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MDJour

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

quote:

ORIGINAL: DianeB269

quote:

ORIGINAL: Copulo

I think a lot of women become pro because they can and it’s a seriously quick way of earning some serious money. You can earn the same sort of money as a lawyer if your good and have a good location for a dungeon. Who wants to be earning £9 an hour when you can be earning anything between £150 to £500 an hour!!!

I have seen so many women that first come on the scene as subs and then start to play around with a bit of switching. The next thing you know they have some posh dungeon set up in the Barbican, working a 20 hour week and are very comfortably off


Maria



This is why I went pro years ago.....It's very easy money and you don't really work very
hard cuz, there is a endless supply of clients. I bought 2 houses in 12 years working as
a pro.

Diane

PS; I retired 5 years ago.


Fabulous Diane [;)] x



I have enjoyed 6 years as a Pro. I have a great set up and everyone goes home guilt free and happy. To me the term tribute should only apply in the professional arena.
Mistress V.


I agree too Mistress V [:)]



MistressRouge -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 5:11:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

At a play party:

SubA: Will you walk on me?
DommeA: <indignant> excuse me?
SubA:. Erm. I asked if you would talk on me? But I got my words mixed up. I meant would you talk to me?
DommeA: Oh, I think I misheard you. Sure, I appreciate it when subs like to engage in conversation. What do you want to talk about?
SubA: Oh. I don't know. What size shoe do you wear?
DommeA: What kind of question is that when you are starting a conversation?
SubA: ....
DommeA: Have you ever dated a vanilla woman?
SubA: Yes
DommeA: Did you ever start to get to know them by asking what size shoe they wear?
SubA: No. There. I ask them what size bra they wear.
DommeA: .....
SubA: Do you like reinforced stockings?
DommeA: Excuse me, I need to go to the restroom <fading sounds of heels clicking>
SubA: <20 minutes later> Man, she must have some bladder. Wait! I wonder if she went to like go find a thermos for me! Oh man! Score!

On AOL messenger:

SubB: I hope I am not disturbing you. May I have a moment of your time?
DommeB: Yes, you pathetic pig you may. But it will cost you $50.
SubB: ....
DommeB: Well, do you have the money or not loser?
SubB: I am at a loss for what to say
DommeB: You don't have to know what to say, scum. I'll tell you what to say. Say, Yes Mistress, may this lowly peace of shit instead give you $100?
SubB: I am sorry to have disturbed you.
DommeB: Wait. What? Aren't you supposed to beg me for a freebie or something?
SubB: A freebie? May I ask you something? Have you ever dated a vanilla man?
DommeB: Of course I have. Have you seen my photos and how hot I am?
SubB: Whenever a vanilla man has inititated conversation, have you asked him for money?
DommeB: No, of course not. But I won't let him have any until he takes me to a nice dinner and then a nice show.
SubB:....
SubB: Well how about the last vanilla guy you dated. What was he like?
DommeB: Oh he was a hottie! But I had to dump him because his ass was nicer than mine and there is no way I'm dating a guy like whose ass looks better than mine.
SubB: Did you have sex?
DommeB: I wore out his bed. I'd have his neighbors banging on the wall. It was hot!
SubB: Did you like the sex?
DommeB: Didn't I just tell you?
SubB: Did he have to do the dinner and a nice show?
DommeB: Well, for him I went for just the dinner
SubB: Why?
DommeB: Because he had a nice ass!
SubB: No I mean why did you have to have the dinner?
DommeB: Because. That's how it is. Otherwise, I'll be too easy. And I'm too fine a chick to be easy. How much he spends is how much he likes me and how fine I am. A few months ago I got a bad perm and I didn't look as hot as I do now. So then I was settling for TexMex dinners instead of Lobster.
SubB: Did you ask him to pay you $50 when he first spoke to you?
DommeB: No silly. That would be so weird.
SubB: Why is it different with subs?
DommeB: Because. They have to pay somehow. They never do what I want. They only care about what they want. And if they want me to do what they want then they have to pay.
SubB: So for them to get what they want, they have to pay?
DommeB: Damn right they do.
SubB: Have you ever considered paying them to do what you want?
DommeB: What?!
SubB: Yeah. They can pay you so you can do what they want. And then you can pay them so they can do what you want. And then eventually, perhaps you will see that the exchange of money is redundant and that they can do what you want, and you can do what they want. Or better yet, you can be selective to find someone so that what you want and what they want are one and the same thing!
DommeB: What?! Are you one of them socialists?
SubB: Excuse me?
DommeB: Socialist! You are a socialist!
<SubB has logged out>
DommeB: Damn Communist! Come back! Give me my $50!

Cheers,

Sea


I will be attending quite a few fetish clubs in May. I have announced to all My yahoo group members, to come and indulge in a social/play nite with Me, for My entertainment.

No fee, No Tribute [:D]

So not all about the money honey lol.

I love being a Pro-Style Domme [:)]



DianeB269 -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 5:28:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

quote:

ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

At a play party:

SubA: Will you walk on me?
DommeA: <indignant> excuse me?
SubA:. Erm. I asked if you would talk on me? But I got my words mixed up. I meant would you talk to me?
DommeA: Oh, I think I misheard you. Sure, I appreciate it when subs like to engage in conversation. What do you want to talk about?
SubA: Oh. I don't know. What size shoe do you wear?
DommeA: What kind of question is that when you are starting a conversation?
SubA: ....
DommeA: Have you ever dated a vanilla woman?
SubA: Yes
DommeA: Did you ever start to get to know them by asking what size shoe they wear?
SubA: No. There. I ask them what size bra they wear.
DommeA: .....
SubA: Do you like reinforced stockings?
DommeA: Excuse me, I need to go to the restroom <fading sounds of heels clicking>
SubA: <20 minutes later> Man, she must have some bladder. Wait! I wonder if she went to like go find a thermos for me! Oh man! Score!

On AOL messenger:

SubB: I hope I am not disturbing you. May I have a moment of your time?
DommeB: Yes, you pathetic pig you may. But it will cost you $50.
SubB: ....
DommeB: Well, do you have the money or not loser?
SubB: I am at a loss for what to say
DommeB: You don't have to know what to say, scum. I'll tell you what to say. Say, Yes Mistress, may this lowly peace of shit instead give you $100?
SubB: I am sorry to have disturbed you.
DommeB: Wait. What? Aren't you supposed to beg me for a freebie or something?
SubB: A freebie? May I ask you something? Have you ever dated a vanilla man?
DommeB: Of course I have. Have you seen my photos and how hot I am?
SubB: Whenever a vanilla man has inititated conversation, have you asked him for money?
DommeB: No, of course not. But I won't let him have any until he takes me to a nice dinner and then a nice show.
SubB:....
SubB: Well how about the last vanilla guy you dated. What was he like?
DommeB: Oh he was a hottie! But I had to dump him because his ass was nicer than mine and there is no way I'm dating a guy like whose ass looks better than mine.
SubB: Did you have sex?
DommeB: I wore out his bed. I'd have his neighbors banging on the wall. It was hot!
SubB: Did you like the sex?
DommeB: Didn't I just tell you?
SubB: Did he have to do the dinner and a nice show?
DommeB: Well, for him I went for just the dinner
SubB: Why?
DommeB: Because he had a nice ass!
SubB: No I mean why did you have to have the dinner?
DommeB: Because. That's how it is. Otherwise, I'll be too easy. And I'm too fine a chick to be easy. How much he spends is how much he likes me and how fine I am. A few months ago I got a bad perm and I didn't look as hot as I do now. So then I was settling for TexMex dinners instead of Lobster.
SubB: Did you ask him to pay you $50 when he first spoke to you?
DommeB: No silly. That would be so weird.
SubB: Why is it different with subs?
DommeB: Because. They have to pay somehow. They never do what I want. They only care about what they want. And if they want me to do what they want then they have to pay.
SubB: So for them to get what they want, they have to pay?
DommeB: Damn right they do.
SubB: Have you ever considered paying them to do what you want?
DommeB: What?!
SubB: Yeah. They can pay you so you can do what they want. And then you can pay them so they can do what you want. And then eventually, perhaps you will see that the exchange of money is redundant and that they can do what you want, and you can do what they want. Or better yet, you can be selective to find someone so that what you want and what they want are one and the same thing!
DommeB: What?! Are you one of them socialists?
SubB: Excuse me?
DommeB: Socialist! You are a socialist!
<SubB has logged out>
DommeB: Damn Communist! Come back! Give me my $50!

Cheers,

Sea


I will be attending quite a few fetish clubs in May. I have announced to all My yahoo group members, to come and indulge in a social/play nite with Me, for My entertainment.

No fee, No Tribute [:D]

So not all about the money honey lol.

I love being a Pro-Style Domme [:)]



Sounds like it will be fun!!!!!!!!!!!


Diane



MistressRouge -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 5:33:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DianeB269

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

quote:

ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

At a play party:

SubA: Will you walk on me?
DommeA: <indignant> excuse me?
SubA:. Erm. I asked if you would talk on me? But I got my words mixed up. I meant would you talk to me?
DommeA: Oh, I think I misheard you. Sure, I appreciate it when subs like to engage in conversation. What do you want to talk about?
SubA: Oh. I don't know. What size shoe do you wear?
DommeA: What kind of question is that when you are starting a conversation?
SubA: ....
DommeA: Have you ever dated a vanilla woman?
SubA: Yes
DommeA: Did you ever start to get to know them by asking what size shoe they wear?
SubA: No. There. I ask them what size bra they wear.
DommeA: .....
SubA: Do you like reinforced stockings?
DommeA: Excuse me, I need to go to the restroom <fading sounds of heels clicking>
SubA: <20 minutes later> Man, she must have some bladder. Wait! I wonder if she went to like go find a thermos for me! Oh man! Score!

On AOL messenger:

SubB: I hope I am not disturbing you. May I have a moment of your time?
DommeB: Yes, you pathetic pig you may. But it will cost you $50.
SubB: ....
DommeB: Well, do you have the money or not loser?
SubB: I am at a loss for what to say
DommeB: You don't have to know what to say, scum. I'll tell you what to say. Say, Yes Mistress, may this lowly peace of shit instead give you $100?
SubB: I am sorry to have disturbed you.
DommeB: Wait. What? Aren't you supposed to beg me for a freebie or something?
SubB: A freebie? May I ask you something? Have you ever dated a vanilla man?
DommeB: Of course I have. Have you seen my photos and how hot I am?
SubB: Whenever a vanilla man has inititated conversation, have you asked him for money?
DommeB: No, of course not. But I won't let him have any until he takes me to a nice dinner and then a nice show.
SubB:....
SubB: Well how about the last vanilla guy you dated. What was he like?
DommeB: Oh he was a hottie! But I had to dump him because his ass was nicer than mine and there is no way I'm dating a guy like whose ass looks better than mine.
SubB: Did you have sex?
DommeB: I wore out his bed. I'd have his neighbors banging on the wall. It was hot!
SubB: Did you like the sex?
DommeB: Didn't I just tell you?
SubB: Did he have to do the dinner and a nice show?
DommeB: Well, for him I went for just the dinner
SubB: Why?
DommeB: Because he had a nice ass!
SubB: No I mean why did you have to have the dinner?
DommeB: Because. That's how it is. Otherwise, I'll be too easy. And I'm too fine a chick to be easy. How much he spends is how much he likes me and how fine I am. A few months ago I got a bad perm and I didn't look as hot as I do now. So then I was settling for TexMex dinners instead of Lobster.
SubB: Did you ask him to pay you $50 when he first spoke to you?
DommeB: No silly. That would be so weird.
SubB: Why is it different with subs?
DommeB: Because. They have to pay somehow. They never do what I want. They only care about what they want. And if they want me to do what they want then they have to pay.
SubB: So for them to get what they want, they have to pay?
DommeB: Damn right they do.
SubB: Have you ever considered paying them to do what you want?
DommeB: What?!
SubB: Yeah. They can pay you so you can do what they want. And then you can pay them so they can do what you want. And then eventually, perhaps you will see that the exchange of money is redundant and that they can do what you want, and you can do what they want. Or better yet, you can be selective to find someone so that what you want and what they want are one and the same thing!
DommeB: What?! Are you one of them socialists?
SubB: Excuse me?
DommeB: Socialist! You are a socialist!
<SubB has logged out>
DommeB: Damn Communist! Come back! Give me my $50!

Cheers,

Sea


I will be attending quite a few fetish clubs in May. I have announced to all My yahoo group members, to come and indulge in a social/play nite with Me, for My entertainment.

No fee, No Tribute [:D]

So not all about the money honey lol.

I love being a Pro-Style Domme [:)]



Sounds like it will be fun!!!!!!!!!!!


Diane


I wish you could attend Diane, [:)] the scene fab in the UK.



DianeB269 -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 5:39:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

quote:

ORIGINAL: DianeB269

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

quote:

ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

At a play party:

SubA: Will you walk on me?
DommeA: <indignant> excuse me?
SubA:. Erm. I asked if you would talk on me? But I got my words mixed up. I meant would you talk to me?
DommeA: Oh, I think I misheard you. Sure, I appreciate it when subs like to engage in conversation. What do you want to talk about?
SubA: Oh. I don't know. What size shoe do you wear?
DommeA: What kind of question is that when you are starting a conversation?
SubA: ....
DommeA: Have you ever dated a vanilla woman?
SubA: Yes
DommeA: Did you ever start to get to know them by asking what size shoe they wear?
SubA: No. There. I ask them what size bra they wear.
DommeA: .....
SubA: Do you like reinforced stockings?
DommeA: Excuse me, I need to go to the restroom <fading sounds of heels clicking>
SubA: <20 minutes later> Man, she must have some bladder. Wait! I wonder if she went to like go find a thermos for me! Oh man! Score!

On AOL messenger:

SubB: I hope I am not disturbing you. May I have a moment of your time?
DommeB: Yes, you pathetic pig you may. But it will cost you $50.
SubB: ....
DommeB: Well, do you have the money or not loser?
SubB: I am at a loss for what to say
DommeB: You don't have to know what to say, scum. I'll tell you what to say. Say, Yes Mistress, may this lowly peace of shit instead give you $100?
SubB: I am sorry to have disturbed you.
DommeB: Wait. What? Aren't you supposed to beg me for a freebie or something?
SubB: A freebie? May I ask you something? Have you ever dated a vanilla man?
DommeB: Of course I have. Have you seen my photos and how hot I am?
SubB: Whenever a vanilla man has inititated conversation, have you asked him for money?
DommeB: No, of course not. But I won't let him have any until he takes me to a nice dinner and then a nice show.
SubB:....
SubB: Well how about the last vanilla guy you dated. What was he like?
DommeB: Oh he was a hottie! But I had to dump him because his ass was nicer than mine and there is no way I'm dating a guy like whose ass looks better than mine.
SubB: Did you have sex?
DommeB: I wore out his bed. I'd have his neighbors banging on the wall. It was hot!
SubB: Did you like the sex?
DommeB: Didn't I just tell you?
SubB: Did he have to do the dinner and a nice show?
DommeB: Well, for him I went for just the dinner
SubB: Why?
DommeB: Because he had a nice ass!
SubB: No I mean why did you have to have the dinner?
DommeB: Because. That's how it is. Otherwise, I'll be too easy. And I'm too fine a chick to be easy. How much he spends is how much he likes me and how fine I am. A few months ago I got a bad perm and I didn't look as hot as I do now. So then I was settling for TexMex dinners instead of Lobster.
SubB: Did you ask him to pay you $50 when he first spoke to you?
DommeB: No silly. That would be so weird.
SubB: Why is it different with subs?
DommeB: Because. They have to pay somehow. They never do what I want. They only care about what they want. And if they want me to do what they want then they have to pay.
SubB: So for them to get what they want, they have to pay?
DommeB: Damn right they do.
SubB: Have you ever considered paying them to do what you want?
DommeB: What?!
SubB: Yeah. They can pay you so you can do what they want. And then you can pay them so they can do what you want. And then eventually, perhaps you will see that the exchange of money is redundant and that they can do what you want, and you can do what they want. Or better yet, you can be selective to find someone so that what you want and what they want are one and the same thing!
DommeB: What?! Are you one of them socialists?
SubB: Excuse me?
DommeB: Socialist! You are a socialist!
<SubB has logged out>
DommeB: Damn Communist! Come back! Give me my $50!

Cheers,

Sea


I will be attending quite a few fetish clubs in May. I have announced to all My yahoo group members, to come and indulge in a social/play nite with Me, for My entertainment.

No fee, No Tribute [:D]

So not all about the money honey lol.

I love being a Pro-Style Domme [:)]



Sounds like it will be fun!!!!!!!!!!!


Diane


I wish you could attend Diane, [:)] the scene fab in the UK.



Me too!


Diane


PS; You have a new message......



undergroundsea -> RE: Tributes (5/4/2007 6:34:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressRouge
I respect your opinion regarding tribute, and I am a Pro Domme, a world away from what you seek or have.


My prior post clarifies at the very beginning that I do not direct my comments at pro dommes. I see the value of the role professional domination plays for both dommes and subs involved. Professional domination is a business relationship and an exchange of a fee is reasonable.

That said, my definition of professional domination and respect for pro dommes does not apply to every individual who identifies herself as a pro domme. There are good and bad persons in each profession. I am fortunate to have met good ones through my social circles.

Thank you for saying you respect my opinion. However, I am unsure about whether my post offended you and created a want to take a shot at me, which is what is at odds with the statement about respecting a differing opinion. Specifically, the uncertainty about the spirit behind the comment of being a world away from what I seek or have raises this question since the word have leaves room for interpretation. If I have misunderstood the spirit, I apologize.

Indeed I seek a personal relationship and not a professional one. When I meet a professional domme in a social setting, I try to maintain a safe distance from what might be boundaries out of respect for her profession. I would feel odd asking her to play me just as I would asking a doctor in the same social setting to give me a free examination. Thus, I do not initiate courtship towards a professional domme beyond friendly interaction as I do towards a non-professional domme unless she invites it. Furthermore, I am drawn to commonality and, all other things equal, I will likely have more in common culturally towards a lifelong companionship with someone who is in a traditional profession. Thus, while it is not laid in stone, I lay the odds of finding the person I seek greater amongst non-professional dommes than professional ones.

That said, I have been played by multiple professional dommes whom I know socially upon their initiative, and it was based on mutual attraction. There are many whom I consider friends and regard with fondness.

Cheers,

Sea



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