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RE: America is dying.... - 5/3/2007 10:43:42 PM   
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the fairness doctrine- is sorta a non-issue.

we the public own the airwaves. not clearchannel.

i am on strike right now. i refuse to pay or order cable/satilite.

what the govt is doiing with the publics money- in the form of airwaves, mineral rights- tax monies is treasoness!!

today i heard on radio- that electric - natural gas- AND water in my locale are going up!1 so much for the PUC.

America has been looted. The enemy is from with in.

Corporations are not human- yet they serve as "masters" of us serfs, peasants.

One day- this same internet will be "owned" by the powers that be.

corporate media amounts to thought control. hypnosis of the masses- to keep us in line. to distract us from real issues that effect our servatude to the corporate masters.

both parties have sold out.

we are so screwed!

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/3/2007 10:49:00 PM   
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You know this is the second time I have made an error in posting this fine A.M.....Not directed at Syn....going to bed....Grumpy...Never post while grumpy....lol.

Take care all,....Even Cyberdude...lol.

I'm usually a pretty happy camper,,,,The sub is out of town....She is so selfish.

Good night.


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RE: America is dying.... - 5/3/2007 11:35:19 PM   
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Good post subf.....

But,

"Actually, that is incorrect. With the exception of oil purchased from Iran, you need US Dollars to pay for oil. (This is why the US is just itching to find a cause for war with Iran that can be sold to a gullible public.) "

Does not mean that the exchange rate is irrelevant. Whether they accept payment in dollars or bananas, before it enters their national economy it has to be converted to their currency. So this still affects the dollar value of a barrell of oil.Even if these countries have a huge trade surplus, they still also buy things from other countries. Things we no longer make. This has to be in the formula when setting the selling price.

So that is my point, my only rebuttal to your post. Actually I was a bit surprised to find someone in as close to agreement with me as you expressed.

But these are all just happenings, consequences, comes down to cause and effect. We see the effect constantly. But who sees the cause.

I can tell you the cause, and it ain't pretty. The US is ruled by people so nasty that they would destroy this country and kill us all if they were in danger of losing control. Even an insurgence by their own constituents. That is the kind of people they are.

Do not ask me about my backgrond in relation to how I know this. I will not provide this information. Suffice it to say I have seen things that nobody even wants to see. And it might not be all that different than what others see, but it is my perception of it. But I think my perception is alot more accurate than most.

Alot of it is perceptional accuity, something that is running a bit scarce in people nowadays. Consideration of cause and effect. A buddy of mine was over here earlier talking Bin Laden. He was unaware that we bombed Afghanistan back to before the stone age that Russia bombed it into. He thought that they were just psychos. That's the media for you, that is how it is done. And through the churches.

My ex-boss, and I mean a $23+ an hour job where they practically worshiped me when I walked in the door, I hung up him rudely four times. He was voting for Bush because Kerry is a baby killer. Very adamant about it. Perhaps he needs a vacation in Baghdad. I didn't quit or get fired, and it was not mentioned on the job the next day. Enough had been said.

But how does this happen ? Lies. Plain and simple, and they are legally allowed to lie. And it gets people to support shit that is very wrong. We need truth.

Bush has been quoted in the foreign media, with the addition of the comment "babbles this absurd little man". This was after a quote "The world is a safer place because of me". Can he really be stupid enough to believe that ? Invade here, bomb there and nobody is going to get pissed ? That is the epitome of either hubris or stupidity, or a combination thereof. There can be no other reason. If the stupidity is because of the brainwashing, it is nonetheless stupidity. Even with the hubris, any Man with commone sense should know that they are going too far. It doesn't matter WHY the Commander In Chief does not realize this, it only matters that he does not.

Yes, we are dying, a slow death. Right now most Americans see the cure as worse than the disease.

And this is the real problem. People want to be entertained. They might give 100% at work and make good money. But then they have to have fun. A bit too much. Honey "Nuke some hotdogs and put a movie in for the kids", instead of some discussion time. Just watch the local news, a couple of sitcoms, and then delve into the stack of six movies you rented. That's what they do.

There is no time for real world issues, and as much I like to criticize the basic media, the news shows etc., Hollywood is just making too damn many movies. People used to go to the cinema perhaps once a week, if they had a few dimes to rub together. Now, people rent perhaps ten or twelve movies a week. There is no time for quiet discussion with the kids. There is no time for them to interact much with adults, which is the greatest teaching tool around, with the right adults that is.

I spent about two years without entertainment. Literally, I fix TVs, actually the BIG ones, and for that time I insisted that all the test playing TVs would be on preview guide on the cable. I INSISTED.

I didn't listen to music, nor even play any, for quite some time. My reasoning improved. The only few things I watched were politically incorrect. No music, no fiction, and even not much fiction on the net.

I became uninterested in fiction, I turned my attention to world events. Also to honing my saleable skills. The realest entertainment was when people came over, naturally occurring jokes were really good.

During that ime I read things that others refuse to read, like the Protocols, and another one called "Secret Weapons For Silent Wars", purpotedly by Amsel Rothchild (real name Mayer) . It is very hard to understand, and I care not who wrote it, the subject matter has it's own merit.

It puts forth a methodology for high level investing and manipulating the markets, and the reason is clear. Now if the source is as purported, this is from a perspective of someone with really old and really big money. If it is by some smuck, I doubt it would read quite how it does.

The person who wrote it was obviously an economist and an electrical engineer. They equated the world economy to an electrical circuit, with for example a slush fund (the term hadn't been coined yet) as capacitance, holding a charge. Certain movements of money, like overhead are resistance, and inductance is the force to be reckoned with when big money wants to rape the economy. It is complex, and has representative drawings, hand drawn. They are electronic schematics. I know about these things and this guy makes too much sense.

It's been a while but, inductance is the production of goods and services, it must be loaded with another reactance or a resistance to control the rate of it's discharge. The same is true of capacitance, the slush fund. You use it at a controlled rate, only when it will supply the inductance with more voltage, which represents directly invested capital.

Something like that. This thing was very intriguing, but it would give alot of people a headache probably.

Don't ask, I do not have it in electronic form, I would have to find it and scan it, then you get a bunch of JPGs. This is not the greatest copy, and OCR is just not going to work well. What's more it is like an inch or so thick, printed on 8½X11. That is alot, and I am not sure I could even fit it in my FTP.

Anyway, I got the media out of my life for a while, and looked to reality. Now I can enjoy just a bit, but for example, my TV might have spent six hours running this month. If that.

I hear that England has like an oversight commitee for the media, to try to assure it is fair and balanced, or at least closer thereto. Perhaps that is why I would rather go to BBC dot com and use the PC to TV converter rather than my antenna.

When you control the media, you control it all. Go get a list of who is into what as far as who owns the media outlets. C'mon back now. You'll see. You will se that they have an agenda.

T

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 12:52:02 AM   
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If  political commentary shows are evenly balanced and debate is  controlled ie one side does not shout down the other and PC thinking is thrown out of the window then I think  such shows are a good idea because Liberals are quite frequently left floundering and the fatuous idealism underlying their case is clearly exposed.

In the UK , especially the BBC this difficulty is dealt with by not allowing Right Wingers on are at all or loading the shows 3 left to one right or interrupting the Right Winger at every opportunity.

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 12:58:41 AM   
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That is why it costs what it costs. Greed. And it is compounded by the weak dollar. Remember this is mostly foreign oil. Much of it bought with foreign currency and the exchange rate is quite unfavorable.


Actually, that is incorrect. With the exception of oil purchased from Iran, you need US Dollars to pay for oil. (This is why the US is just itching to find a cause for war with Iran that can be sold to a gullible public.)

You later mentioned Iraq converting from US Dollars to Euros for oil, which is correct. (Which was a primary motivation for war with Iraq.)

Hugo Chavez has hinted of a possible conversion from the Dollar to the Euro (Which is a primary reason why he is being sold to the public as a devil):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4990302.stm


Subfever ....

He tried to get it right, he just twisted up the words - I think

 What a lot of folks in the mainstream don't realize is, because the dollar is so tied to oil {the petro dollar} every time these oil rich countries like Russia , Venezuela and Iran take it out of the realm of this dollar denominated {false} free market system, bypassing the London and New York exchanges, it crushes the artificial demand for dollars because those countries no longer have a need to stock pile dollars in their central banks.

If I were the Russians..... I'd work on ways to set up an exchange that even bypasses the Euro, and basically gets oil rich countries like Iran, Venezuela , Nigeria, and Iraq {after it falls} to denominate their oil holdings in Rubbles - That would really piss off the European aristocracy.

Despite the illusions many of our citizens seem to have, the United States military machine is not a cornucopia.....it will eventually wear out and the citizenry will begin to figure out that the evil caliphate, dressed in dirty pajamas, along with the mythical cave and laptop, are just fairy tales, and instead they are fighting for golden parachutes and rich share-holders to preserve their wealth.








- R



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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 1:08:02 AM   
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Since this thread has shifted to Oil pricing I would like to know....

Since Western companies, certainly in the Middle East, dig up the raw material what then happens, is it sold to that Arab Oil Cartel or what ?  Anybody know ?

If so then the petro companies  could demand dollar payment if they wished. NO?

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 1:39:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

quote:

ORIGINAL: subfever

quote:

That is why it costs what it costs. Greed. And it is compounded by the weak dollar. Remember this is mostly foreign oil. Much of it bought with foreign currency and the exchange rate is quite unfavorable.


Actually, that is incorrect. With the exception of oil purchased from Iran, you need US Dollars to pay for oil. (This is why the US is just itching to find a cause for war with Iran that can be sold to a gullible public.)

You later mentioned Iraq converting from US Dollars to Euros for oil, which is correct. (Which was a primary motivation for war with Iraq.)

Hugo Chavez has hinted of a possible conversion from the Dollar to the Euro (Which is a primary reason why he is being sold to the public as a devil):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4990302.stm


Subfever ....

He tried to get it right, he just twisted up the words - I think

What a lot of folks in the mainstream don't realize is, because the dollar is so tied to oil {the petro dollar} every time these oil rich countries like Russia , Venezuela and Iran take it out of the realm of this dollar denominated {false} free market system, bypassing the London and New York exchanges, it crushes the artificial demand for dollars because those countries no longer have a need to stock pile dollars in their central banks.

If I were the Russians..... I'd work on ways to set up an exchange that even bypasses the Euro, and basically gets oil rich countries like Iran, Venezuela , Nigeria, and Iraq {after it falls} to denominate their oil holdings in Rubbles - That would really piss off the European aristocracy.

Despite the illusions many of our citizens seem to have, the United States military machine is not a cornucopia.....it will eventually wear out and the citizenry will begin to figure out that the evil caliphate, dressed in dirty pajamas, along with the mythical cave and laptop, are just fairy tales, and instead they are fighting for golden parachutes and rich share-holders to preserve their wealth.

- R



No one will do it. No one trusts Russia's economy right now. Its still a mess. I remember an article a few months ago about how in one Russian town near Siberia, half of it burned down because the city lacked the funds needed to maintain a fire department.

So nope...Russia is still not doing so hot...

And some people still don't trust the Euro. I read a book a few years ago that projected a collapse of the Euro within 25 years. Basically it said that Europe is heading for a economic meltdown. And there are some economists in Europe that are becoming worried. Europe has a rising immigration problem combined with high unemployment and minimal economic growth. Germany is the profitable country in the EU right now and they arn't even doing that great. France and Italy are both becoming a mess.

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 2:19:03 AM   
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So nope...Russia is still not doing so hot...


Cyberdude :

Very true Russia has a collapsing infrastructure, but they also no longer borrow money abroad - The country has very little foreign debt service since Putin took control. And when gasoline is 3.47 a gallon here in Oregon, I'd say things are looking mighty up for them in terms of rebuilding their infrastructure.

Whether you like Russia or not.....Putin has done a masterful job when it comes to restoring their independence / autonomy.

And don't be surprised in a few years if some of the former Warsaw pact member’s collapse back in.



- R



< Message edited by UtopianRanger -- 5/4/2007 2:21:27 AM >


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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 3:27:51 AM   
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And some people still don't trust the Euro. I read a book a few years ago that projected a collapse of the Euro within 25 years. Basically it said that Europe is heading for a economic meltdown. And there are some economists in Europe that are becoming worried. Europe has a rising immigration problem combined with high unemployment and minimal economic growth. Germany is the profitable country in the EU right now and they arn't even doing that great. France and Italy are both becoming a mess.


You probably should take a trip to Europe, I think you will find a different story. You should look beyond the stats. Unemployment is high but when someone is employed in Germany or France they are earning a realistic liveable wage, not a miserly few dollars that takes you off the unemployment register in the US. Someone on one thread said and I don't know if they are right, if you are earning $100 a week you aren't classed as unemployed in the US, here you are. Unemployment doesn't necessarily mean someone is economically idle. My cleaner is on the unemployment register and I pay her about $100 per week for a few hours work but it is not enough money for her to be classed as employed.As for Germany, it exports about the same amount of manufactured goods as the US.

Though you are making the classic mistake of measuring the quality of life in financial terms. Blair keeps boasting about Britain out performing France economically but which nation are happier with their way of life? I remember one survey having only 35% of Brits being happy with their way of life while the French were somewhere around the 90%. There is a debate going on over here about wheter it is worth sacrificing some economic success for a more contenteded and happier life because report after report has shown that beyond a certain point, more and more money and material goods don't make people any happier, while chasing more and more money just stresses and depresses people because they have the mind set that if they don't earn more money their world will collapse.

While the markets are important, they are not so important that people should be less important than them.

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 3:34:48 AM   
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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 3:47:16 AM   
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As for Germany, it exports about the same amount of manufactured goods as the US.


I haven't researched this, but if it's even remotely true, It's my opinion that every member of the administration and ninety percent of the members of congress oughta have every ounce of life choked out of them by a guy with a black hood and a thin piece of piano wire.


- R

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:16:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

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ORIGINAL: subfever

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That is why it costs what it costs. Greed. And it is compounded by the weak dollar. Remember this is mostly foreign oil. Much of it bought with foreign currency and the exchange rate is quite unfavorable.


Actually, that is incorrect. With the exception of oil purchased from Iran, you need US Dollars to pay for oil. (This is why the US is just itching to find a cause for war with Iran that can be sold to a gullible public.)

You later mentioned Iraq converting from US Dollars to Euros for oil, which is correct. (Which was a primary motivation for war with Iraq.)

Hugo Chavez has hinted of a possible conversion from the Dollar to the Euro (Which is a primary reason why he is being sold to the public as a devil):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4990302.stm


Subfever ....

He tried to get it right, he just twisted up the words - I think

What a lot of folks in the mainstream don't realize is, because the dollar is so tied to oil {the petro dollar} every time these oil rich countries like Russia , Venezuela and Iran take it out of the realm of this dollar denominated {false} free market system, bypassing the London and New York exchanges, it crushes the artificial demand for dollars because those countries no longer have a need to stock pile dollars in their central banks.

If I were the Russians..... I'd work on ways to set up an exchange that even bypasses the Euro, and basically gets oil rich countries like Iran, Venezuela , Nigeria, and Iraq {after it falls} to denominate their oil holdings in Rubbles - That would really piss off the European aristocracy.

Despite the illusions many of our citizens seem to have, the United States military machine is not a cornucopia.....it will eventually wear out and the citizenry will begin to figure out that the evil caliphate, dressed in dirty pajamas, along with the mythical cave and laptop, are just fairy tales, and instead they are fighting for golden parachutes and rich share-holders to preserve their wealth.

- R



Bingo, brother... and well-expressed.

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:21:16 AM   
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No they shouldn't, because you have the freedom to change the fucking channel. Turn on Steve Dahl if you hate Rush, and his 3 hour program that much.


I believe you miss the point. The CHANNEL isn't Fox News'.

It's OURS.

And bandwith is too great wasting in on one-sided propaganda.

You wanna present an opinion, fine. You wanna do it without being confronted when you present it?

Go find your own forum. The People's Airwaves are too valuable.



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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:22:39 AM   
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Rush is successful partly because he has a personality and his shows are usually quite optimistic.


Well, that and they GIVE the show away without charging the broadcasters syndication fees.



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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:25:07 AM   
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he desire of some Democrats to bring back the "Fairness Doctrine" is public knowledge.


I'm so Conservative, George Bush looks like a Damned Commie.
Why do I support the Fairness Doctrine?

Stop attempting to make a CLASS ISSUE a partisan issue.



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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:25:29 AM   
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I believe you miss the point. The CHANNEL isn't Fox News'.

It's OURS.

And bandwith is too great wasting in on one-sided propaganda.

You wanna present an opinion, fine. You wanna do it without being confronted when you present it?

Go find your own forum. The People's Airwaves are too valuable.


Now the Liberals are pretending that there's not enough bandwidth for Conservatives to air their opinion???

What will they try next ...

And hey farglebargle - CABLE isn't "airwaves"

That's why they call it cable

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:29:23 AM   
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Air you OPINION all you want.

1) Don't do it on a supposed "NEWS" channel.
2) You need to present the opposing viewpoint, so that the OPINIONS EXPRESSED have an opportunity to be "Put To The Test" then and there.

That's why the Internet is so great. There is ZERO CHANCE someone spouting crap will get away with it without being challenged.

What I wanna see more like the Limbaugh/Donohue show.

That would be so cool.




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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:30:40 AM   
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Air you OPINION all you want.

1) Don't do it on a supposed "NEWS" channel.
2) You need to present the opposing viewpoint, so that the OPINIONS EXPRESSED have an opportunity to be "Put To The Test" then and there.

That's why the Internet is so great. There is ZERO CHANCE someone spouting crap will get away with it without being challenged.

What I wanna see more like the Limbaugh/Donohue show.

That would be so cool.


Anything to shut down or damper free speech.

What a guy

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:32:38 AM   
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As for Germany, it exports about the same amount of manufactured goods as the US.


I haven't researched this, but if it's even remotely true, It's my opinion that every member of the administration and ninety percent of the members of congress oughta have every ounce of life choked out of them by a guy with a black hood and a thin piece of piano wire.


- R


I heard this on the BBC World service not a week ago. Where the US takes the lead over Germany you would expect because of the difference in size is in all other areas of the economy.

My theory about why the US isn't so far in front in exporting manufactured goods is because US companies design products for the US market while Germany and Japan design products with the view to exporting them.

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RE: America is dying.... - 5/4/2007 4:39:08 AM   
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"Anything to shut down or damper free speech. "

Corporations aren't in the Constitution or Amendments. Since they are CREATIONS of The People, Corporations MUST obey the regulations promulgated by The People.

FWIW, the FCC isn't in there either. And if you want to know, I'm for TOTALLY UNREGULATED BROADCAST ( That way I can setup my own station! ( Grateful Dead ALL DAY and ALL NIGHT... Radio-Free DEAD! WE'VE GOT THE HITS! ))...

But back to the issue at hand. *IF* The People ( via their Legislators ) decide to impose Terms and Conditions upon THEIR CREATIONS, then that is their RIGHT AS CREATORS.

If Rupert Murdock doesn't WANT to obey the Law, he can 1) Broadcast anyway, without applying for a license, and 2) Stop hiding behind a Corporation and OWN the property yourself, so that Rupert Murdoch can take the CONSEQUENCES OF HIS CHOICE to disobey The People.

Simple enough.

Don't want to comply? Don't.

Freedom includes the responsibility to experience the consequences of your freedom.

No-one put a gun to their head and MADE them incorporate into an Artificial Legal Entity.





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