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Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 6:23:30 AM   
cjenny


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Status: offline 		Micro management. What is it to you and how do you feel about it? Do you look at those that need micro management in a negative way?

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:00:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		To me its too much work, if a person needs that much control I am not the Domme for them. Do I look at them negatively? Honestly yes I do, I wonder why they need that much control.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:18:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have zero need for micro management in my life so for me the desire for micro management on the part of a potential partner would negate any possiblity of a relationship.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:23:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		If I have to micro manage (a submissive), it means she hasn't really submitted to me. I make my wishes known. She does her part to make that happen.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:32:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cjenny
Micro management. What is it to you and how do you feel about it? Do you look at those that need micro management in a negative way?

To me it means directly managing and overseeing another persons duties.

I look at people with no physical or mental afflictions who need micro management over a majority of their lives to be negative simply because I see it as a waste of time and energy and can't abide useless people.

But micro management over certain things makes sense, specially if it is to teach someone how to NOT need micromanagement.

As well, there's a difference between someone who NEEDS micromanagement and someone where it's just a kink for them.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:42:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think people have differing definitions of what constitutes micromanagement. What I would find micromanaging another wouldn't.

I think it depends on the context of why it is being done. Right now I am in the process of doing something that some would consider micromanaging, it is not something I will have to do forever, and it is basically something for ME to use as a tool in the future. It is not for him at all, and yet, many would see this activity as micromanaging (in fact I would if I did not know why I had to do it, and the larger picture behind it).

I think there are people who practice micromanagement as a kink, and it has nothing to do with 24-7 Ds

So while a micromanaging relationship would not suit my needs, and I know that my Daddy would not want a submissive that required it, I do not condemn it for others. Whatever makes em happy.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:46:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		i'm too self-motivated, independent and organized for someone to recommend micro-management to me. i thrive on being stressed out to meet deadlines ahead and/or on-time than for a Dom to tell me when a certain task or assignment needs to be done. i honestly do look negatively at those who need a Dom controlling and scheduling them when, where and what to do every single minute. 

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:47:37 AM   
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Micro management. What is it to you and how do you feel about it? Do you look at those that need micro management in a negative way?
To me, micromanagment is when I have to repeatedly give intricately detailed instuctions to a person and then have to over-see that they do things to those specifications. Personally, I'm not into micromanagment all that much to do it all the time.

IMO, someone that needs micromanagment is just too "me" oriented to be my slave. For me, they're on the same level as attention whores, brats and forum stalkers. All for which aren't really worth my time.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 7:57:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are occasionally particularly whiny emotional days for me where I'm hormonal, and nothing's going right, and maybe I'm dropping stuff or running into things, and I just want to go curl up and cry with my teddy bear.  On those days I might appreciate being micromanaged just so I can turn my brain off for a bit. 

The rest of the time you're going to get that glare I learned from my grandmother.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:13:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Micromanagment means to control HOW a process is done as well as controlling the outcome. If I'm just doing the latter, I'd simply say, "Change the oil in my car." If I'm going the former, I'd say the same thing, then hand them a list of instructions that I expected them to follow in order to get it done.

Micromanaging is work. The only thing that I really micromanage is how to fold my t-shirts. I have a way that reduced the wrinkles, but people seem to have a problem with it. Perhaps it's easy for me 'cause I've been doing it for 20 years?

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:18:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		To me someone who needs to be micro managed is someone who can't function in normal society.  I personally raised my UM to productive well adjusted human beings, not about to start again with an adult.  Would expect those skills are already present.  However I see that as a kink for some, and at that point to each their own.  We all are looking for something different then the next person. 

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:23:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam
Micromanaging is work. The only thing that I really micromanage is how to fold my t-shirts. I have a way that reduced the wrinkles, but people seem to have a problem with it. Perhaps it's easy for me 'cause I've been doing it for 20 years?

Master Fire

Well we all have quirks, I haven't met a dom yet who didn't have SOMETHING they needed to micromanage.  My partner has a thing about towels and tshirts as well so I just let him go for it.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:27:43 AM   
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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:28:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		i pretty much agree with MasterFireMaam's definition...the Dominant is not just giving orders, but is also giving detailed instructions as to how to carry those orders out. my Master does this in certain aspects of my life, but because it's not something that universally applies to everything in our relationship, i wouldn't consider our dynamic to be one of micromanagement. however others who see us interact have called it that, so i suppose it's all in how one looks at it.

i definitely don't see anything negative about one who needs micromanagement, or one who needs to micromanage. it's all about what works for the individual dynamic. if i had a different sort of Master, i can easily see myself needing micromanagement in nearly all things, because i am not an independent sort of person and if always left entirely to my own devices, i would crumble. however my Master's very controlling and is more comfortable with simply taking care of the significant things himself, and delegating the little things to me.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:41:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		To me it means I make no independent decisions, everything is dictated by him or through paramters he has set, so he doesn't have to be involved all the time. It means I have no freedom to make a choice on anything except pre-determined things...like eggs or fruit for breakfast..I can't decide to have pancakes, he didn't leave that as an option. So none of my decisions are based on what I want, that is why I consider it micro-managed. He orders(and decides what I will eat) for me in restaurants, decides where we will vacation, go, etc. He wouldn't have it any other way, so anbody who thought they were going to be independent and self-deciding/governing on very much or anything would not be with him.

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Micro management. What is it to you and how do you feel about it? Do you look at those that need micro management in a negative way?


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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:56:09 AM   
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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 8:59:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't look down on those who like their life organized to the letter, if it works for them that is all that counts.
Me personally, micromanaging would not go so well.  I struggle with schedules at the best of times and I would drive Rob  nuts if I asked for permission for everything I do.  I would think it would be exhausting on both parties to set up that type of structure.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 9:10:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		As a manager/overseer of employees I cannot tollerate that type of management style. Perhaps it is because I am, by nature, lazy or just that I find it an utter waste of time. I have someone do tasks so that I don't have to and can use my time and effort to accomplish other things. If I have to stand over someone and dictate every moment of their life, I am not living mine to it's fullest.

Obviously I do see it as a negative and not something I want in my life. I have turned away two young ladies that wanted that type of relationship. There were perfectly lovely sub/slaves, each having their own personal strong points. I just knew, that in the long run, both they and I would become dissatisfied and it just wouldn't work.

I enjoy the company of strong independent thinkers. I want a submissive/slave that is fully capable of making decisions and working unsupervised. One that does not need to constantly come to me for detailed instructions. As someone else said about changing oil..........If I ask you to do it, I will already know that you are capable of doing it, and doing it well. You should not need me giving step by step instructions and encouragement.

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 9:13:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

To me it means I make no independent decisions, everything is dictated by him or through paramters he has set, so he doesn't have to be involved all the time. It means I have no freedom to make a choice on anything except pre-determined things...like eggs or fruit for breakfast..I can't decide to have pancakes, he didn't leave that as an option. So none of my decisions are based on what I want, that is why I consider it micro-managed. He orders(and decides what I will eat) for me in restaurants, decides where we will vacation, go, etc. He wouldn't have it any other way, so anbody who thought they were going to be independent and self-deciding/governing on very much or anything would not be with him.




hmmm...well if that is micromanagement, then i suppose i might be more micromanaged than i thought. i just have this image of a Master breathing down the neck of his sub or slave every second of the day, having to always ask permission to stand or walk or pee when someone says the word micromanagement. but that might just be brain going to extremes again.

but like you BeingChewsie, throughout my day everything i do is either directed by or permitted by him, and must be done within the paramaters he has set. food, exercise, online communication, tv watching, etc. but there is still some leeway...like if chores are done by the specified time, it doesn't matter so much what order i do them in. or if he tells me to make chicken for dinner, about 50% of the time he'll leave it up to me how exactly to prepare the chicken. but if something comes along that is unprecedented...some new situation that he's never specified exactly what i'm supposed to do...i'm not permitted to take any action without getting his direction first. but is that so uncommon?

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RE: Micro Management, what does it mean to you? - 5/7/2007 9:20:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		One thing I have always wondered....where do these Master's who insist on micro management work that they are available any moment of the day for their sub/slave to call? May I pee? Can I shower now? I am thirsty, may I have water? There is someone at the door...may I answer it? OMG....having worked in many office settings I can see how such would be an absolute nightmare and a total impossibility to those who worked in the labor force.

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