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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 1:56:27 PM   
siouxsiecat


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I guess I just need to let go of her. Her legal claim is that she required him to use a condom. After I blindfolded her I told the male submissive to take off the condom because I wanted to see them have unprotected sex. I didn't tell her this. He told me he had a vasectomy so it would be safe. I told her about adoption and abortion but she won't listen. As long as I'm not responsible for the child it shouldn't matter to me. I need to be more mature and just "let go."



This is your version of being "mature"? Walking away from a problem that you caused?

Wow.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 1:59:08 PM   
MasterRobert007


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This is your version of being "mature"? Walking away from a problem that you caused?

Wow.



THIS ISN'T MY FAULT!! THE MALE SUBMISSIVE LIED TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!! He told me he has a vasectomy when he hadn't. This is all his fault. I realize this now.

I want to thank the community for their feedback and I'm happy I posted this because I learned a lot.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:01:16 PM   
LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: siouxsiecat


This is your version of being "mature"? Walking away from a problem that you caused?

Wow.



THIS ISN'T MY FAULT!! THE MALE SUBMISSIVE LIED TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!! He told me he has a vasectomy when he hadn't. This is all his fault. I realize this now.

I want to thank the community for their feedback and I'm happy I posted this because I learned a lot.




I'm quite happy believing that you're possibly a virgin and that your mom will spank you when she found out which sites you accessed with her computer.... She might also cut your allowance, but since you don't need them for condoms, this shouldn't have much effect on the rest of the world.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:01:38 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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I need to be more mature and... <snip>

This is the only bit you need to take note of.
Read. Research. Know your subject - inside and out.
There is no way you can call yourself 'Master' unless you know your subject extremely well.
Master yourself before you attempt to master anyone else.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:02:52 PM   
Rawni


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Status: offline 		OP... I don't believe this for one minute... but I would like to point out to you... that you just posted on a public forum, your guilt in this situation and what you did was sexual assault that resulted in a pregnancy. We have a lot of very smart people around here and I am sure we have some others that might take an interest in your little story and admittance to a crime.

You are going to grow up real fast if anyone makes anything of this. I would be more worried about how foolish it is to admit a crime... but then, there was no crime... except in the little mind of a guy... of whatever age... playing his trippy little game on CM.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:03:15 PM   
staggeringwolf


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Status: offline 		Your the self proclaimed Master in the situation it was your responsibility to make sure it was safe it was not. Ya subs lie and so do Doms but in the end it was your responsibility to make sure it was safe. You failed to do that now you just look the ass in a situation that should of been avoided in the first place. As far as comeing after you she doesn't have much to stand on you didn't fuck her. I suggest perhaps you get a bit of training yourself before you do more damage or worse.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:06:37 PM   
FelineRanger


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007

THIS ISN'T MY FAULT!! THE MALE SUBMISSIVE LIED TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!! He told me he has a vasectomy when he hadn't. This is all his fault. I realize this now.

I want to thank the community for their feedback and I'm happy I posted this because I learned a lot.



Is this one of those, how do you say, "flounce?"

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:08:40 PM   
siouxsiecat


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


THIS ISN'T MY FAULT!! THE MALE SUBMISSIVE LIED TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!! He told me he has a vasectomy when he hadn't. This is all his fault. I realize this now.

I want to thank the community for their feedback and I'm happy I posted this because I learned a lot.



It's your fault. If you were any type of a Master or Dominant or decent man you would know that.

You let your penis dictate what happened over her safety. You took charge in name only so you could get something for yourself that turned you on. You were not a leader, you were not watching out for the people you were supposedly in charge of. You went directly against what she said and have irrevocably changed her life. If this is for real, I honestly hope you reap every possible consequence.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:08:53 PM   
Rawni


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Status: offline 		No... he has at least five more pages before a flounce. This one won't cum easy.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:11:37 PM   
LadyConstanze


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No... he has at least five more pages before a flounce. This one won't cum easy.


Nor will I tonight, the picture of a pimply teenager typing with one hand really tends to turn me off...

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:12:13 PM   
AthenaSurrenders


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OP, did you never manage to get lucky with this woman yourself? Because it might be your baby after all. Then she'd have a case for both child support AND sexual assault.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:20:10 PM   
MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

fr

OP, did you never manage to get lucky with this woman yourself? Because it might be your baby after all. Then she'd have a case for both child support AND sexual assault.


Why is everyone talking about sexual assault? Everything was consensual between adults. She applied for Welfare and they did whatever they did to determine the male submissive was the father of the child. It is not my child. What do you mean, "get lucky with this woman?" She is a good submissive and does what she is told to do.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:20:49 PM   
Rawni


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No... he has at least five more pages before a flounce. This one won't cum easy.


Nor will I tonight, the picture of a pimply teenager typing with one hand really tends to turn me off...


ROFLMAO!!! Omg! That brought loud noises and tears!

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:24:52 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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Status: offline 		Athena... He said in his opening post -
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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
Long story short. She got pregnant. She had to go on welfare and they tracked him down and he is the father.

So one has to assume he isn't the father.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:28:17 PM   
LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Athena... He said in his opening post -
quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
Long story short. She got pregnant. She had to go on welfare and they tracked him down and he is the father.

So one has to assume he isn't the father.




Take a look at his profile, he joined 2 days ago, is 18, went to local munches, met her there (always happens really quick for 18 year old boys to meet girls of the same age who become submissives at local munches) and 2 days ago they will still exploring together and she wasn't freaking out. Pregnancies seem to happen damned fast in his area...

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:29:09 PM   
JstAnotherSub


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I'm 18-years-old and new to being dominant (about 8 months) and have been attending a local BDSM community. I found a female submissive, who is the same age as me. At the BDSM community I found an older male submissive to play with my submissive while I direct what happens. He has had a Vasectomy and works full-time as an attorney.

Being the dominant one, I make sure everything is safe and consensual. Even though he has had a vasectomy my female submissive wants him to use a condom. Well, in one play scene, while she was blindfolded, I wanted to watch them having sex without the condom. Long story short. She got pregnant. She had to go on welfare and they tracked him down and he is the father. However, his is medi/medi on disability and married. HE LIED TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!

Now she is asking me to support the child since I'm responsible and is threatening to get an attorney. However, I believe I'm not responsible and shouldn't have to support her or her child.

What do you think?


As sad as it would be, the perfect ending to this story would be the dude you had fuck your so-called sub without a condom against her wishes calling to say he also forgot to mention he is hiv positive and has herpes.

Someone who would have someone else fuck their sub without protection, in my world, is a douchebag extraordinaire.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:31:27 PM   
searching4mysir


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

fr

OP, did you never manage to get lucky with this woman yourself? Because it might be your baby after all. Then she'd have a case for both child support AND sexual assault.


Why is everyone talking about sexual assault? Everything was consensual between adults. She applied for Welfare and they did whatever they did to determine the male submissive was the father of the child. It is not my child. What do you mean, "get lucky with this woman?" She is a good submissive and does what she is told to do.



If she only agreed to sex WITH a condom, then consent is removed if there was no condom, thus it becomes sexual assault.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:31:32 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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Someone who would have someone else fuck their sub without protection, in my world, is a douchebag extraordinaire.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:31:52 PM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Status: offline 		Ah apologies, I overlooked that. I assume there must be some sort of pre-natal DNA testing involved then?

It's a sexual assault because she consented to sex with a condom, but what happened to her - when she was blindfolded, no less - was sex without a condom. You went against her explicit wishes and you exposed her to the risk of pregnancy and STDs. You changed the conditions meaning it was no longer informed consent.

When you consent to sex with a condom you are consenting to the potential risks - like getting herpes from skin to skin contact, or the condom breaking. You do not consent to someone just going at it without a condom.

Once again - if you're not mature enough to understand this, you're not mature enough to be in an adult relationship.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 2:33:18 PM   
AthenaSurrenders


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quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Athena... He said in his opening post -
quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007
Long story short. She got pregnant. She had to go on welfare and they tracked him down and he is the father.

So one has to assume he isn't the father.




Take a look at his profile, he joined 2 days ago, is 18, went to local munches, met her there (always happens really quick for 18 year old boys to meet girls of the same age who become submissives at local munches) and 2 days ago they will still exploring together and she wasn't freaking out. Pregnancies seem to happen damned fast in his area...


Apparently the welfare system works remarkably quickly in his area too, since they've established paternity.

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