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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:03:41 PM   
LadyConstanze


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No, but it's so damn hard to resist....

besides, I always think a few serious replies might be helpful in case someone stumbles across one of these threads in the future, when they are actually considering doing something stupid like the thing described in the OP.


I they do actually consider anything quite as brain dead, then a baseball bat to the head couldn't cause much damage anyway...

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:06:36 PM   
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Just because I believe what people tell me I'm considered incompetent?



Yep, exactly right.

I have a boyfriend. I'm gay. I've been in a relationship for 5 years. I don't have bareback sex with him no matter how much the thought appeals to me. I've been tested for HIV every 6 months, have been completely monogamous, and I believe and trust he has been too. I'm clean, and he's clean. But there is still a RISK and I would never ask him to take that risk, nor would he ask me to.

Sometimes the price is too high. In the case of gay men with HIV, the price is pretty much always too high.

In the case of a heterosexual couple? That's up to them.

In your scenario, whether or not it's true, you would have taken the risk, and lost. Be the bigger man, step up, and take part in the child's life.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:11:44 PM   
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so you and your girl have been into bsdm for 8 months......
and in that 8 months she was knocked up AND paternity has been established.

i live in LA too. i worked in the family court when i was in college so i am VERY familiar with policy and procedure. paternity cannot be established until a child is born.
since you said she went through DPSS for assistance in that regard, I can tell you that is a procedure that takes about three months.

so in the 8 months you have been with her, she was impregnated, carried the baby to term, applied for welfare AFTER the baby was born, AND had paternity established.

did this guy knock her up in the first five minutes you met her? was the baby four months premature? is she somehow the one single magical human being who is able to navigate the LA county welfare system without a hitch?

i just can't make the math work. can you help me out here?

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:15:40 PM   
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As sad as it would be, the perfect ending to this story would be the dude you had fuck your so-called sub without a condom against her wishes calling to say he also forgot to mention he is hiv positive and has herpes.

Someone who would have someone else fuck their sub without protection, in my world, is a douchebag extraordinaire.


I can't understand why no one can see my point of view The male submissive lied, lied and lied. None of this would have happened if he told the truth. Now I'm scared because of the law suit she is threatening against me. How come he gets to do all this lying and get away with everything?


So, you didn't lie by making this chick think the guy would wear a condom and then have him take it off after she was blindfolded.

I sincerely hope this is just wank fodder for you. If by some snowballs chance in hell this is true, well.

Bless your heart.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:17:54 PM   
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This is your version of being "mature"? Walking away from a problem that you caused?

Wow.



THIS ISN'T MY FAULT!! THE MALE SUBMISSIVE LIED TO ME ON SO MANY LEVELS!! He told me he has a vasectomy when he hadn't. This is all his fault. I realize this now.

I want to thank the community for their feedback and I'm happy I posted this because I learned a lot.




Son, you haven't learned a damn thing as far as I can tell[/b]. You continue to blame the male sub that lied to you and now you think you can just walk away, taking NO responsibility for your actions or inactions. Don't make me laugh. This is too sad. You need to shove your own dick up your own butt, instead of leaving her to her own devices. You are totally despicable.

You have ruined 4 lives: the baby, the male sub attorney, the pregnant sub and your own; yours of which I care least about. You are not a man, a Dominant, or a Master in my eyes and I don't think you ever will be.

YOU STILL DON'T GET IT.




Did anyone besides me read that in Foghorn Leghorns voice?

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:18:32 PM   
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LOL this is awesome....

so you and your girl have been into bsdm for 8 months......
and in that 8 months she was knocked up AND paternity has been established.

i live in LA too. i worked in the family court when i was in college so i am VERY familiar with policy and procedure. paternity cannot be established until a child is born.
since you said she went through DPSS for assistance in that regard, I can tell you that is a procedure that takes about three months.

so in the 8 months you have been with her, she was impregnated, carried the baby to term, applied for welfare AFTER the baby was born, AND had paternity established.

did this guy knock her up in the first five minutes you met her? was the baby four months premature? is she somehow the one single magical human being who is able to navigate the LA county welfare system without a hitch?

i just can't make the math work. can you help me out here?



Obviously you're not familiar with the Rocky Horror Picture Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-vgGuTD8A

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:22:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, you DON'T believe everything everyone tells you! It IS partially your fault because you went against what you had agreed to do. You agreed that her partner would wear a condom, then you told him, without telling her, to take off the condom and fuck her. Hellooooo???? YOU. LIED. TOO.

So whose fault is it, really? Do you REALLY think you are totally blameless because someone told you what you wanted to hear and you believed him because you wanted to. You did a stupid, stupid thing. If you want to play Dom with the big boys, you need to man up and accept your part in this whole fiasco. No, I'm not saying you're financially responsible, and if it even ever goes to court, I doubt that she has any kind of a legal leg to stand on. But just man up and admit YOU were wrong to just take the word of someone you don't even know about something that has such serious consequences as putting a woman through a pregnancy and bringing a baby into the world.

Everyone lies, Junior, everyone lies. Even you.

And I'll give you the same advice I gave both my sons when they were in their teens: ALWAYS USE A CONDOM! Don't believe her when she says she can't get pregnant or she's on birth control, because they LIE!

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:23:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pissdoll

LOL this is awesome....

so you and your girl have been into bsdm for 8 months......
and in that 8 months she was knocked up AND paternity has been established.

i live in LA too. i worked in the family court when i was in college so i am VERY familiar with policy and procedure. paternity cannot be established until a child is born.
since you said she went through DPSS for assistance in that regard, I can tell you that is a procedure that takes about three months.

so in the 8 months you have been with her, she was impregnated, carried the baby to term, applied for welfare AFTER the baby was born, AND had paternity established.

did this guy knock her up in the first five minutes you met her? was the baby four months premature? is she somehow the one single magical human being who is able to navigate the LA county welfare system without a hitch?

i just can't make the math work. can you help me out here?


Curses! Perfectly good one-handed wank fodder spoiled by human reproduction timetables and county bureaucracy!

I think LC may have a point though. It really is just a jump to the left...then step to the ri-iiiiiiiight

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:25:47 PM   
LadyConstanze


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Did anyone besides me read that in Foghorn Leghorns voice?


I'm on a roll

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:38:12 PM   
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No, you DON'T believe everything everyone tells you! It IS partially your fault because you went against what you had agreed to do. You agreed that her partner would wear a condom, then you told him, without telling her, to take off the condom and fuck her. Hellooooo???? YOU. LIED. TOO.

So whose fault is it, really? Do you REALLY think you are totally blameless because someone told you what you wanted to hear and you believed him because you wanted to. You did a stupid, stupid thing. If you want to play Dom with the big boys, you need to man up and accept your part in this whole fiasco. No, I'm not saying you're financially responsible, and if it even ever goes to court, I doubt that she has any kind of a legal leg to stand on. But just man up and admit YOU were wrong to just take the word of someone you don't even know about something that has such serious consequences as putting a woman through a pregnancy and bringing a baby into the world.

Everyone lies, Junior, everyone lies. Even you.

And I'll give you the same advice I gave both my sons when they were in their teens: ALWAYS USE A CONDOM! Don't believe her when she says she can't get pregnant or she's on birth control, because they LIE!


Okay, I see your point. I just wanted to let everyone know that I just called her and left a message on her answering machine how sorry I am. I messed up big time. I also wish her the best in the future.

I want to thank everyone on their comments for your advice. I just did the right thing and now I feel better. Thank you.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:40:51 PM   
LadyConstanze


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Okay, I see your point. I just wanted to let everyone know that I just called her and left a message on her answering machine how sorry I am. I messed up big time. I also wish her the best in the future.

I want to thank everyone on their comments for your advice. I just did the right thing and now I feel better. Thank you.



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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:45:27 PM   
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As sad as it would be, the perfect ending to this story would be the dude you had fuck your so-called sub without a condom against her wishes calling to say he also forgot to mention he is hiv positive and has herpes.

Someone who would have someone else fuck their sub without protection, in my world, is a douchebag extraordinaire.


I can't understand why no one can see my point of view The male submissive lied, lied and lied. None of this would have happened if he told the truth. Now I'm scared because of the law suit she is threatening against me. How come he gets to do all this lying and get away with everything?


You lied.

She did not want to have unprotected sex.
You made a promise to her that he would wear a condom.
You made a decision without her consent to have him not wear a condom.

His lie is not worse than your lie.

Personally, I view yours as the worse deception: she entrusted you with her safety and wellbeing and you made a decision that put her at risk.

It doesn't matter that he told you he had been snipped.
He could have had some kind of sexually transmitted infection.
HIV, HPV, Chlamydia (which often has no symptoms in women and can cause PID and infertility).

Blaming him because you chose to behave without honesty and integrity, just shows more of how deeply flawed your character is.

And you come on here saying she is being unreasonable.

Whether or not she has a legal case against you, under the circumstance, her feelings are more than reasonable.

edit: fix quote boxes

and to add - you are a despicable human being, in my opinion.

< Message edited by angelikaJ -- 3/8/2014 3:48:18 PM >

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:47:01 PM   
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Okay, I see your point. I just wanted to let everyone know that I just called her and left a message on her answering machine how sorry I am. I messed up big time. I also wish her the best in the future.

I want to thank everyone on their comments for your advice. I just did the right thing and now I feel better. Thank you.


Dream with me



I don't get it. I listened to it and the message is dream on until your dreams come true?


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 3:55:11 PM   
LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


Okay, I see your point. I just wanted to let everyone know that I just called her and left a message on her answering machine how sorry I am. I messed up big time. I also wish her the best in the future.

I want to thank everyone on their comments for your advice. I just did the right thing and now I feel better. Thank you.


Dream with me



I don't get it. I listened to it and the message is dream on until your dreams come true?



Does that help?

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 4:03:28 PM   
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Does that help?



I did listen to that video but I don't know if I should send it to him or not because the lyrics are, "Don't cry you liar." But I don't know if he is crying over the ordeal. Maybe he is? I know if I was him I would be crying.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 4:04:31 PM   
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This is coming from somebody who saw the first version of this thread a couple of days ago. I was literally sitting at My desk thanking the powers that be for taking down the first one because I'd have been neck deep in ToS violations if I would have told you what I really thought.

You tricked this girl and don't want to be responsible? I might suggest that you not engage in BDSM until you understand the consequences when you do these things. The things you said on the first version of this thread were enough to show what kind of folks shouldn't be engaging in kink.

I'm done here.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 4:08:02 PM   
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But tell me more.

Can I be Ak?

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 4:11:48 PM   
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Does that help?



I did listen to that video but I don't know if I should send it to him or not because the lyrics are, "Don't cry you liar." But I don't know if he is crying over the ordeal. Maybe he is? I know if I was him I would be crying.



One of my fave versions of the song, if you don't get it, especially the chorus, I guess your answer is still blowing in the wind... Along with your brain...

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 4:15:50 PM   
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Does that help?



I did listen to that video but I don't know if I should send it to him or not because the lyrics are, "Don't cry you liar." But I don't know if he is crying over the ordeal. Maybe he is? I know if I was him I would be crying.


What part of: "You lied" is it that you don't understand?
The You part or the Lied part?

You are still responsible for your actions and choices regardless of what anyone else did or does.
You made a promise to her by agreeing to her face that yes, he would wear protection.
And then you just did what the hell you wanted to do.

You LIED.

edit: clarity




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RE: Need Guidance - 3/8/2014 4:16:31 PM   
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I'm not sure of where you're coming from.

But tell me more.

Can I be Ak?


Are you the op of this current thread?

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