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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 8:11:33 AM   
OsideGirl


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Status: offline 		BTW, I saw the first one you posted and can't believe you had the gall to post it again.

I notice this time that you left out the fact that she didn't want to engage in a sexual act and you punched her in the stomach to make her comply.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 8:17:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

BTW, I saw the first one you posted and can't believe you had the gall to post it again.

I notice this time that you left out the fact that she didn't want to engage in a sexual act and you punched her in the stomach to make her comply.




So then there really wasn't consent to begin with, even with a condom.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 8:41:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, I missed that first post. That indicates there never was consent and those legal ramifications being threatened are certainly valid, and no apology gets you off the hook.

So if it is true, and she hopefully follows through with her rightful legal recourse it would be just and a a justified lesson for you OP. It would also put you on the sex offenders list for the rest of your life. I doubt your mom would think you such a nice guy then.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 8:51:23 AM   
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Why not just put the poor infant up for adoption in situations like these so it can have a chance to have two loving parents who wanted a baby to begin with?


Exactly!! She is all emotional and screaming what has happened to my life! It's your fault! She just won't listen to reason.



Assuming this really happened, it is your fault, even if you're not the father. You got him have sex with her without a condom - against her expressed will.


This is exactly what I can publicly post about this. Thanks, graceadieu!

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 8:52:53 AM   
OsideGirl


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Status: offline 		It went beyond that even, he listed the name of the club she goes to and was hoping someone that goes there would "beat some sense into her".

He bullied her into a sex act she didn't want, he didn't do his due diligence about that sex partner, put her at risk of STDs/HIV and then wanted someone to beat her up for daring to hold him responsible for the outcome.



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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 9:36:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the OP is a rather frothy ferret, can we bless his heart and his cotton socks?

To illustrate what I mean by how frothy, here's a picture



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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 9:37:55 AM   
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Ah, the plot thickens.

If this is true and not just a piss poor attempt at trolling, my personal opinion is that you deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law in your area. If there isn't anything on the books, they should just make shit up because jerks like the one described deserve some time with the big boys in the state penitentiary system. They absolutely LOVE guys who abuse women and children and no one is untouchable in prison.

Morally and ethically this is some seriously fucked up shit and you have no business controlling anyone else because you clearly can't fucking control yourself. It's not BDSM, it's abuse. And it pisses me off that people like this give it a bad name. Not sure where exactly the gold letter line lies or how close my toes are to it, so Ill leave the rest of my thoughts on this out of it.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 9:39:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

BTW, I saw the first one you posted and can't believe you had the gall to post it again.

I notice this time that you left out the fact that she didn't want to engage in a sexual act and you punched her in the stomach to make her comply.


Or the question at the end, if somebody who is local and frequents the same BDSM community she does, can go and visit her 'and beat some sense into her'.

Obvious troll is trolling...



Edited to add: just saw you clarified that as well in a later post.




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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 10:11:07 AM   
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Obvious troll is trolling...



I hope he's trolling, but whether he is or isn't....the club he named didn't deserve to have their image smeared because of his lack of judgement.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 10:12:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was going to mention that you need to, something spiritual, but I don't want to hijack your thread.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 10:53:51 AM   
MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

BTW, I saw the first one you posted and can't believe you had the gall to post it again.

I notice this time that you left out the fact that she didn't want to engage in a sexual act and you punched her in the stomach to make her comply.


YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BRING THIS UP! In my original post, which the Moderator deleted, I was trying to share my experiences growing in a D/s relationship. That incident had nothing to do while the male submissive was there.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 10:55:44 AM   
MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

It went beyond that even, he listed the name of the club she goes to and was hoping someone that goes there would "beat some sense into her".

He bullied her into a sex act she didn't want, he didn't do his due diligence about that sex partner, put her at risk of STDs/HIV and then wanted someone to beat her up for daring to hold him responsible for the outcome.




HOW DARE YOU BRING THIS UP AGAIN! It has nothing to do with anything. I did name the BDSM club I go to on a regular basis on my original post. My original post got deleted by the Moderator. SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BRING THIS UP.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 10:56:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

BTW, I saw the first one you posted and can't believe you had the gall to post it again.

I notice this time that you left out the fact that she didn't want to engage in a sexual act and you punched her in the stomach to make her comply.


YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BRING THIS UP! In my original post, which the Moderator deleted, I was trying to share my experiences growing in a D/s relationship. That incident had nothing to do while the male submissive was there.




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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 11:03:10 AM   
OsideGirl


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Status: offline 		As long as I don't violate ToS or the guidelines, I absolutely have the "right" to point out your previous post.

Your previous post was removed because it violated ToS, not because you were being given a free pass.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 11:21:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

BTW, I saw the first one you posted and can't believe you had the gall to post it again.

I notice this time that you left out the fact that she didn't want to engage in a sexual act and you punched her in the stomach to make her comply.


YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BRING THIS UP! In my original post, which the Moderator deleted, I was trying to share my experiences growing in a D/s relationship. That incident had nothing to do while the male submissive was there.



Some of us read threads and remember them.
I am wondering something: you make a claim that consent is a big deal to you.

quote:


Being the dominant one, I make sure everything is safe and consensual.


So how are you personally defining consent?
Did she consent to be punched in the stomach because she withdrew consent to begin with?
Did she consent to have penetration without a condom?

As far as I can tell, you violated her consent 3 times.
1) She had every right to withdraw her consent to have sex at any point.
And you physically coerced her with violence to make her allow sex.
(Which btw IS rape.)
2) She had not consented to be punched in the stomach.
3) She had expressly said that his penis needed to wear a condom.


Does your mother include rape in her definition of "nice"?

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 11:57:47 AM   
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So how are you personally defining consent?
Before play we both agreed that anything goes. There are no hard limits.

Did she consent to be punched in the stomach because she withdrew consent to begin with?
I thought so, yes. But this has nothing to do with my thread. Please do not bring it up again.

Did she consent to have penetration without a condom?
I don't have sex with my submissive so this isn't an issue. However, I already apologized for my mistake in having the male submissive take off the condom. I'm sorry. No need to bring this up anymore.

As far as I can tell, you violated her consent 3 times.
1) She had every right to withdraw her consent to have sex at any point.
And you physically coerced her with violence to make her allow sex.
(Which btw IS rape.)
I do not have sex with my submissives. Blow-Job is Rape??!!

2) She had not consented to be punched in the stomach.
In the beginning of play we agreed that there would be no hard limits. So indirectly she consented to get punched in the stomach. And again, this has nothing to do with my thread.

3) She had expressly said that his penis needed to wear a condom.
I already apologized for this.

Does your mother include rape in her definition of "nice"?


Now that everything has been explained I want to stress how much I've learned and grew from all this. Thank you all.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 12:02:02 PM   
angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


So how are you personally defining consent?
Before play we both agreed that anything goes. There are no hard limits.

Did she consent to be punched in the stomach because she withdrew consent to begin with?
I thought so, yes. But this has nothing to do with my thread. Please do not bring it up again.

Did she consent to have penetration without a condom?
I don't have sex with my submissive so this isn't an issue. However, I already apologized for my mistake in having the male submissive take off the condom. I'm sorry. No need to bring this up anymore.

As far as I can tell, you violated her consent 3 times.
1) She had every right to withdraw her consent to have sex at any point.
And you physically coerced her with violence to make her allow sex.
(Which btw IS rape.)
I do not have sex with my submissives. Blow-Job is Rape??!!

2) She had not consented to be punched in the stomach.
In the beginning of play we agreed that there would be no hard limits. So indirectly she consented to get punched in the stomach. And again, this has nothing to do with my thread.

3) She had expressly said that his penis needed to wear a condom.
I already apologized for this.

Does your mother include rape in her definition of "nice"?


Now that everything has been explained I want to stress how much I've learned and grew from all this. Thank you all.



Oral sex without consent is forced sodomy and yes that = rape.
Once she withdrew consent, she withdrew consent.
Period.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 12:08:11 PM   
MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
Oral sex without consent is forced sodomy and yes that = rape.
Once she withdrew consent, she withdrew consent.
Period.



This isn't all my fault. A submissive should never say, "Okay lets play with no hard limits." But once again, this is a completely different scene. It has nothing to do with my thread.

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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 12:16:24 PM   
angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: MasterRobert007


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ
Oral sex without consent is forced sodomy and yes that = rape.
Once she withdrew consent, she withdrew consent.
Period.



This isn't all my fault. A submissive should never say, "Okay lets play with no hard limits." But once again, this is a completely different scene. It has nothing to do with my thread.



So, once again it is someone else's fault.

And has everything to do with this thread.
It speaks to a pattern of behavior.


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RE: Need Guidance - 3/10/2014 12:27:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stop saying it isnt your fault, and that you have learned from this
you have not.
Not even slightly.
you are taking the piss(trolling)
A "master" should not remove the safety from intercourse, you had her raped....she got pregnant.
You are or should be the responsible one(legally, mentally and physically one) but there isnt an ounce of sense, responsibility or even recognition that it is indeeed your fault.
Damn Dumb diminant is also underwhelming in explanation.
Im insulted you dare call yourself a master

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