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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 7:56:31 AM   
kc692


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ORIGINAL: McWhips


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ORIGINAL: Moleculor

You know, despite the fact that this guy (or one much like him) posted exactly the same thing on B.com, and the fact that everyone seems to be taking his post for a whine, he has a point.

How many men do you see asking for financial tributes?

Why do monetary payments have to be part of a romantic relationship?

Why is there such a disparity between the way dommes treat subs, and doms treat subs?



Not many men seeking finincail tributes and if they are the women a lot of the time see them as fake or time wasters.

Monetery payments ARE NOT part of a romantic relationship its a fee and a business arrangment.



So if they are considered fake and time wasters, then the women move on??? If so many compaints are issued on this site, is it just against Domina, or are Doms specifically included in the complaints??

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:02:57 AM   
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maybe its a choice of words...

I think it is a generally agreed opinion that labels are just that and that each label is personally defind by individuals.

But that when used in the context of wiitwd - there are certain pre-thought out descriptions of people likes masocist is one who enjoys/accepts pain... or Master = an Owner of property...

You are using the word 'submissive' (a word that in fact, doesn't really exist) to describe yourself - but your behaviour and professed desires seem to me(not to all) would indicate more of a 'bottom' trait - but thats another thread altogether.

I have to hark back to my further question - and M'Lady kc - if money isn't important, why advertise it in your profile? It can essentially send out the wrong message - and although you are not responsible for how others perceive you, you are responsible for how you may wish to be perceived. But I do notice you seem unwilling to respond to these questions, which begats the thoughts that others have expressed.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:05:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: siamsa24

What about cooking? Cleaning? Doing laundry? Washing the car? The various other tasks that keep a houshold running? What about working on the cars? Painting the house? Perhaps I am seeing things differently, but a relationship requires that other tasks be done, not just playing.

Those tasks that I outlined above are just a few of the things that have been done in my relationship over the past few weeks. Maybe we do things a little different, but you have to remember that a household does not run itself, someone (or someones) has to do it.



Of course I do these things its part of a healthy relationship, I dont expect someone do do all that for me lol. The point I was trying to make that its a bit sad when Dommes are looking for people to do these in exchange for some whipping etc!


As for the rest of you.....nope cant be bothered.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:15:19 AM   
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It's just that it sounds as though you are looking for a relationship where you wait around to serve and contribute nothing to the household. If you don't like a people that ask for tribute no one is forcing you to read their profiles or send them money. Just click next and move on.
Or even better, go out and get involved in a real life group. This place is great, but if it doesn't have what you are looking for then look elsewhere. I am not telling you to leave, but just to expand your search beyond this one site.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:18:53 AM   
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quote:

You are using the word 'submissive' (a word that in fact, doesn't really exist)


submissive adj. Willing or inclined to submit; yielding; oedient; docile -submissively adv - submissiveness n.

Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary copyright 1984


Yeah,...... it does.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:25:56 AM   
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lol... point taken... I should have been more exact.

The words submissive exists... but the the concept 'a submissive' doesn't in the dictionary.
A person can be a submissive person, a submissive mind, but not a submissive. It is a characterization, rather than a being. It is an adjective - which describes but does not label.

chukles, I was being picky...


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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:28:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: McWhips
Monetery payments ARE NOT part of a romantic relationship its a fee and a business arrangment.


Financial dominantion is a -fetish- as well. I -gaurentee- if you looked for it, you cuold find hundereds of submissive men who are -seeking- this type of relationship.

Even in a less drastic manner. Say you work, and your money goes dirrectly into your dominant partners account. That is monetary payments, of a kind. There are many people on this board who make a decent pay check, and then turn that check over to their dominant partner.

Again, I wouldn't say that seeing a professional dominant is a relationship. Rather, it's receiving a service for a payment. I dunno if I think that a client/dominant relationship is a relationship in the common usage. It -is- however, a totally "normal" form of BDSM interact and expression, especially for those with other partners or who have a fetish that few find appealing.


I maintain, though, if you don't like it, IGNORE IT AND MOVE ON. We've -all- assured you this -isn't- the only type of dominantion in the BDSM community. We've assured you that there are plenty out there that aren't into this. We've recomended joining your realtime community so you can actually meet face to face. There are bunches of "money dommes" who are in it just for the money. There are some who are in it because it is a kink. There are some who are in it as a job as well as a lifestyle. There are also MANY MANY people who don't mess with money at all, even to the degree of controlling household finance. How many times must we say this?

Get invovled in your community. Unless you're a masochist with a huge amount of time, you'll have better luck there than with online dating.

Ignore the people whose fetishes or practices don't appeal to you. They aren't worth your time anyway.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

quote:

You are using the word 'submissive' (a word that in fact, doesn't really exist)


submissive adj. Willing or inclined to submit; yielding; oedient; docile -submissively adv - submissiveness n.

Funk & Wagnalls Standard Desk Dictionary copyright 1984


Yeah,...... it does.

Jewel


I think she meant that it's and adv. or adj. not a noun. He's been using it as a noun, as which it doesn't, in fact, exist.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:36:26 AM   
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quote:

Financial dominantion is a -fetish- as well. I -gaurentee- if you looked for it, you cuold find hundereds of submissive men who are -seeking- this type of relationship.


Yup perverse

- Demon and I met a man (a submissive<adj> man<n>) who was into financial domination but could not find a dominia who had that interest alone. He wanted me to ... lol... and It just wasn't who I was... He even went as far to offer his financial fetish tributes as buying me shoes - instead of just money - ach... Demon was ok about it, but in the end, it just wasn't part of who and what I was. lol... can you believe I turned down Blahniks?

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*edit for ergh...TYPOS!

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:39:33 AM   
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quote:

lol... can you believe I turned down Blahniks?


Wow, no, I can't. I just would have taken them, shoes are my weakness.........

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:39:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dark~angel
Milano Blahniks?



Manolo...Milano is the chick from Charmed ;)

And no I can't believe you did, are you still in touch with him? Give him my screen name! I have NO problem financially dominating.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:41:58 AM   
Kiaban


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While personally I don't really care what other doms or dommes do, hey its thier choice , I do have to say inspite of being accurate or not one thing I have noticed is saying anything about any domina on this site will draw instant flames...the same can't be said for subs/Dommes pointing out dom wannabes and hngs in general.
Just an observation.

Kiaban

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:43:46 AM   
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LOL...Emerald... i thought it was manolo... but then i thought - no - check my spell checker... be a good girl... lmbo... and it told me milano... grrrr... but it looked so wrong, so I settled on just plain blahniks...(is there such a thing as plain blahniks?!!!)

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:46:23 AM   
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I have accepted gifts before. Just this past week someone sent me a lovely digital camera (see the results of that gift by viewing my Niagara Falls pictures). It's a beautiful Kodak 5 megapixal camera. He expected nothing in return and wanted to give it to me as a gift. Shoot, I can't say no to something like that.....

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:47:18 AM   
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Siamsa - I think the shoes I could take... but it was the fact it was His fetish that made me feel as though I would have been doing something wrong, at least in my eyes... ach... I shouldn't worry about others so much... lol... now... excuse me whilst i go and depress myself over my lack of shoe...


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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:48:37 AM   
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I find it rather flattering that some men desire to pelasure themselves because of me (as does my partner so it works out well). I guess it's just about how you think about it. To each their own....

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:49:45 AM   
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Where the heck are you all finding these guys???? Sigh, Im so missing out.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:50:58 AM   
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He just emailed me out of the blue. Said something about my post about not having a digital camera and said that he wanted to send me one.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 8:58:15 AM   
darkinshadows


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ooo Siamsa... don't get me wrong - I love gifts!...lol

My dearest friend who is a Dom, buys me books on art all the time - just because He enjoys spoiling me... and I love it! Makes me smile and sends me into a very good head space. A new Dom friend I have met, asked if He could build a bike, based on one of my paintings which was both an honour and a privilage - again - sending me into that wonderful, comfortable headspace - but the male sub with the shoes had a clear motive and fetish to fulfil... one that I wasn't comfortable in helping him with, unfortunately.

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RE: Just joined and - 5/11/2005 12:28:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: siamsa24

What about cooking? Cleaning? Doing laundry? Washing the car? The various other tasks that keep a houshold running? What about working on the cars? Painting the house? Perhaps I am seeing things differently, but a relationship requires that other tasks be done, not just playing.




quote:

Of course I do these things its part of a healthy relationship, I dont expect someone do do all that for me lol. The point I was trying to make that its a bit sad when Dommes are looking for people to do these in exchange for some whipping etc!


As for the rest of you.....nope cant be bothered.


And see, I have the same view. I get tired of the boys who are only willing to do things for Me in exhange for some whipping or another form of play. I would rather have a boy who wants to do these things for Me, and it is deeply satisfying for them to make My life more pleasant. The play is the icing on the cake. We love the icing, but the cake is still delicious.

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 5/11/2005 12:30:34 PM >


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RE: Just joined and - 5/12/2005 6:45:06 AM   
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Hi, I've been interested in this lifestyle fr sometime, but am technically a newbie. I have no real life experience and my online experience is quite limited.
I to would ike a relationship to eventually evolve out of serving my mistress- when she wants it.
That said, I will shut up and continue lurking for a little while until I get comfortable.

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